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Tahir
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 Posted - 17 Sep 2007 : 12:21:04 PM
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I have been very lucky when buying, 4 of my 6 horses came from the same person, and I had to beg them to part with each of the horses!!! I bred my 5th horse and the 6th is a full sister to "1 of the 4".
When selling I also like to make sure the potential buyer suits the horse and the horse is happy in their company, so I am happy to agree to any trial and any number of visits to ensure all parties are happy (but that's just me). I will also inform potential buyers if anyone else is interested in that particular horse and when they are likely to visit to ensure nobody sets out on a wild goose chase. It's not hard to do and I can't understand why this isn't normal practice.
Pixie, I live in Hertfordshire and occasionally hear of genuine horses for sale in the area, I will pm you if anything turns up in the near future if you like. I have nothing for sale at the moment and probably won't have for a good few years yet, but people do phone me if they are thinking of selling their lovely horses. In the meantime, good luck with your search.
Carla, xx. |
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leezee26
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Posted - 17 Sep 2007 : 2:04:34 PM
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| Carla, I wish more people would be like you! This site is fantastic, Im sure Pixie, in no time one of us would have helped you get your next horse!! Leighx |
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Pixie
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Sep 2007 : 09:48:12 AM
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| Hi Leezee26 - 16hh is a bit too big for me. i'm not quite 5ft. midget woman thats me. but thanks again i appreciate your help. |
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leezee26
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England
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Posted - 18 Sep 2007 : 4:55:59 PM
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| No probs Pixie, I thought he might be but it was worth letting you know, Im glad you dont want to over horse yourself! Lx |
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alix liddle
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England
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Posted - 18 Sep 2007 : 8:44:10 PM
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| Pixie, I put an FAO for you in FAO forum. |
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Bev Parker
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Sep 2007 : 8:29:52 PM
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Buying or selling horses is a complete nightmare. I have been very lucky - all my horses have found me rather than the other way round! I have sold a couple of horses of my own and helped friends to buy/sell and learned from bitter experience not to get involved in the latter ever again. Luckily I found super homes for both the mares I sold and have kept in contact with both ladies. The filly sold within 24 hours of being advertised to the first person who rang up! But I had my share of timewasters with the older mare. I had a couple of joyriders and one lady who messed me around for months having paid a deposit and then making various excuses as to why she couldn't actually come and fetch her. I'm glad she didn't have her in the end as she's gone to a fabulous home where she is being competed by a mother and son.
A few years ago I helped a friend find a safe pony for her daughter to build her confidence on. I found a super 14.2hh grey connemara gelding who was an absolute christian. Inevitably she's outgrown him and this year they bought a pony club eventer schoolmaster and she has had an amazing year culminating in third in the novice PC eventing champs as an individual. They took the reluctant decision to sell the connie gelding and I knew of a local lady who was looking for something safe to hack about on. The pony has rather a lot of melanomas but nothing that would trouble him from a health or riding point of view. The lady was made aware of these various lumps and bumps but told that the pony was open to vetting in all other respects. But we both felt it wise to warn the lady that most vets would probably fail him on the grounds of these melanomas. She ummd and aahed for three weeks,tried him twice and then decided to buy him without vetting. Her choice entirely. Two weeks later she's on the phone saying she wants to bring him back because she feels misled about the melanomas! She also claimed that the saddle sent with the pony wasn't the saddle she tried him on which I know for a fact is complete rubbish. My friend gave her the money back for the saddle but she's still not satisfied. She's now threatening legal action and I no longer have a school to hire (I used to hire her school a couple of times a week. She somehow holds me responsible.
Moral of the story - don't get involved!!! |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Sep 2007 : 10:36:25 AM
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| thanks everyone. my email addy is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx its not in my profile and don't know how to do that. hey ho. thanks again. |
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alix liddle
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England
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Posted - 20 Sep 2007 : 8:10:01 PM
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| Bev, if she bought him with melanomas surely they were visible and you would not be liable, especially as she didn't get him vetted? |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Sep 2007 : 10:56:33 PM
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| I went to look at a mare today. she was nice but could tell when we walked and trotted her up that she wasn't for me. quite a small stride. the seller said that yes i was right and she lost points for her walk in dressage. so i didn't ask for her to be tacked up and didn't ride her. it would have wasted my time, my friends time and the sellers time getting her tacked up and riding her when i could cleary see that she wasn't for me. the seller was very nice and understood completely. although the mare wasn't for me my faith has been somewhat restored in people selling horses. hey ho. thought you might like to know sorry to bore you all if you're not really interested. but if you are thanks for reading. |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Sep 2007 : 10:58:41 PM
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| p.s. she did nip me on the arm - the horse not the seller. naughty funny thing. the mare obviously wasn't keen on me either. it did make me chuckle. no blood just teeth to the wrist but no real pressure. |
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alix liddle
Silver Member
England
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Posted - 22 Sep 2007 : 10:32:03 PM
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| Hi Pixie. I think you are right. You know what you want and you will find the right horse and know it when you do. I have to laugh now because I had really fixed ideas of what I wanted (chestnut mare 15-15.1 aged 3-7 pure bred) and ended up buying a bay, my least favourite colour because she was just so pretty, sweet and safe. I kept looking at this horse on the website thinking she looks nice but i really want a chestnut. In the end the vendor contacted me as I'd left a few messages at arab studs and I thought this is fate!!! Keep us updated on your search. |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Sep 2007 : 3:12:14 PM
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| now you see if i could design an Arab it would be bay and i've my old lad's a chesnut. tee hee |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Sep 2007 : 1:44:50 PM
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| Ok todays experience. Went about 20 mins up the road to view a 9 yr old gelding. when i got there it was fully tacked up and ready to go. so my friend led it up for me on the grass. wasn't sure it had a big enough walk for what i wanted but as its been out of work for a year due to lack of time we gave it the benefit of the doubt. my friend trotted it up. we then asked the girl if we could see it ridden. she went and got her hat and boots. and she said it was very tense on the grass and that is why its walk was short. mmmmmm not convinced at this point. so we asked her if she would ride it down the lane. i asked her to trot away and trot back. oh yes you have guessed it - IT WAS LAME. The girl did apologise but then said oh i lunged him this morning on the grass and he fell over. aaaaagggghhhh. lunging an unfit horse on slippery grass. mmmmmmm clever NOT!!!! |
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Moosie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Sep 2007 : 3:33:05 PM
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| pixie Ive heard this before!! VERY much doubt if he was sound in the morning and the lungeing and falling over story sounds highly suspect. Prob thought you wouldnt notice the lameness on the grass and hoped you wouldnt want him trotted up on the road!! "Oh he was sound yesterday dont know why he is suddenly unnacountably lame today" - reckon this is true maybe one in 100 times. |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Sep 2007 : 10:15:45 AM
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| thanks Moosie for your reply. going to look at another horse on Tuesday - Welsh Section D this time. I really want another Arab but hey the Welshie on paper sounds good so will go give a look. Who knows it may just fit the bill. I used to ride a Section D many moons ago. Watch this space. |
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Gail
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Posted - 30 Sep 2007 : 11:53:12 AM
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Hi Pixie,
Sorry you are having such a nightmare,are there no suitable arabs on this site for sale?
One of the liveries at my yard is selling and buying at the moment. She went to see a horse last week who was very quiet, laid back suitable as a quiet hack, I had looked at his photo and said he looked like a big rangy racehorse and his head was turned to the side. When she got there he was indeed a big rangy ex racehorse and his head had been turned in the photo because he had a huge bump on his forehead like he had whacked his face into a jump.
He was also a bag of bones but that would be easily fixed. She is away to Yorkshire somewhere today to see one so we shall see what happens today.(travelling from Scotland)
Good luck on Tuesday
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Gail
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Posted - 30 Sep 2007 : 7:00:28 PM
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Well, they drove to Yorkshire from Scotland and back again to see this horse to be told he could only be led in a chiffney bit at all times as he would just tank off in hand!!!!!!! If the owner didnt mention that rather important detail what else may she not be mentioning..............
He is a 16.3hh heavy coloured cob type so capable of dragging most people off their feet.......
Needless to say if the seller had told them this they would have saved themselves 7 hours driving a tank of fuel..........
As I said good luck on Tuesday.
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Sep 2007 : 9:31:05 PM
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I guess i'm lucky not to have driven 7 hours. i intend to look locally from now on. i know that narrows my options but if i am to continue viewing lame horses then at least i'm not driving miles and miles and wasting mine and my friends time. I am going to ask the next person i ring. Are you sure this horse is sound and everthing you say because if not i'm going to be a bit p'd off when i get there and discover you haven't told me the truth...... and if this comes across agressive to the seller then i'll just have to live with it. Any advice eagerly accepted by the way.
And Gail tell your friend i feel for her. not that there is any comfort but i recognise a fellow sufferer. take care. |
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joanna_piana
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Sep 2007 : 9:39:50 PM
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| Whereabouts are you Pixie? We have a rather nice Section D at our yard, I think she is five so quite green but is hacked out by a 13 year and and has been to Patchetts to do unaffiliated dressage and got a very respectable mark first time out. Her jumping is still green but she has been to cross country schooling and went clear at our last show over some quite spooky jumps (she did have a good look at them though). She's rather lovely and has great movement and is unspoilt. She's wont' be that cheap though as she definately has a lot of potential but can find out more if you're interested. She's in Hertfordshire. |
      
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2007 : 09:29:21 AM
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| oooooo Joanna pianna - great name by the way - thanks for that. i am in Buntingford nr Royston. Not sure i want a five year - i am really looking for something a bit older than that. Thanks for the thought it is much appreciated. I don't mind green but don't want a baby. if you could find out a bit more about her ie., what is she like in traffic, when she spooks what does she do, is she mare'ish, is she good to box, shoe, clip, any vices, is she a nice person, does she have manners, ooooo forgot how big - i am only short - is she strong when out hacking, what type of bit. if its not too much trouble to find out this stuff then great but don't kill yourself. my email is Withers62@waitrose.com. thank you thank you thank you. |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 11:14:37 AM
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| Saw a really sweet section D last night - nice nature on the floor. but very long backed and croup high. oh well at least it wasn't lame. Joanna pianna will email you back. thanks |
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Gail
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 8:55:24 PM
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Hi Pixie,
My friend has found a new horse and he arrived last night seems a lovely sensible quiet boy which is exactly what she was looking for so a happy ending for her and her new horse. She is delivering her horse thats she was selling to his new owner on Saturday so its all go.
I pick up my little foal next week too so its all change at the yard, we hardly have any movement normally so I would imagine it will all settle now.
Gail x |
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Pixie
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 2:59:48 PM
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| glad your friend find a nice boy - oooo and a new foal pics please. |
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Gail
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 7:45:16 PM
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Hi Pixie,
She is really pleased with him, a real sweetie. As for foal pics I don't know how to post photos but he is on here somewhere under Introducing Azizi. He is a wee sweetie too.
Gail x |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 10:33:25 PM
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ok update for anyone who is interested. went to see a 15hh TBxIrish Cob gelding. The TB supposed to be Primitive Rising - haven't seen its passport yet. Anyway coloured - mostly brown but all white legs and a bit of white on rump. aged 5. a real sweetie on the floor and actually ok to ride if a bit green. evidently the seller doesn't think he will set the world alight dressage wise but thinks he would make a good event horse. i am so never going to make Badminton - lol. Anyway seems a nice sort. Am going to Hack him out on Thursday morning as only rode in the school today. I liked him but not sure if i want a 5 year old. Now does that make me a timewaster. i'm not sure i really really like him but i'm not sure i don't really really like him either. My friend who came with me said that i should go back and hack him and the seller was happy for me to do so. He is £4,500 no tack and not done much. i think thats quite a lot of money but is supposed to be a really safe, responsive, enjoyable hack. we shall see. i really don't want to be a timewaster.
Also going to look at a 14.2 grey TB x Welsh on Wednesday 8 years old. Won Trailblaser dressage and done all sorts of other stuff. £5,000.
I feel that when i sit on the right horse i will just know. As thats how i felt when i first sat on my boy all those moons ago. Any opinions gratefully received.
Thanks for reading all of this. |
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