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geegee
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 Posted - 31 May 2008 : 10:27:41 AM
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I've lost the plot with this thread now   Can you start again with a list of what you want? There has to be something out there for you  |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 10:46:10 AM
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Hi Geegee - I know....... I've lost the plot too. Sooooo bored.
Ok on my wish list for a new horse is......
Sound - no thats not a joke I've seen too many unsound horses
14.3 to 15.1 - 15.2 at a pinch and 14.2 at a pinch
Not to broad
6 to 12 years old
With some education or at least brakes
Good in traffic
Good in open country - not strong or too spooky
Snaffle mouth
Not fizzy
No nasty bucking - the odd high spiritied buck is fine but successional bucks is a no no
Preferable a gelding but mares are fine providing they are not mare'ish
Just a nice person really
Good on own and with company
Happy to school, hack, calm at shows
Good in traffic – cars, motorbikes, lorries, tractors and trailers etc.
Good to catch
Good with the farrier
Good to clip would be a bonus but not a necessity
No allergies – COPD/ARO, Head shaking, Sweetitch etc.
No vices – cribbing, wind sucking, kicking, biting, rearing, successive bucking etc - although not bothered about weaving too much and the occasional high spirited buck also fine
Clean limbs i.e. no previous tendon or ligament problems but surface scars not a problem
Paperwork must be correct and in order.
Happy for a basket case (the first time) to sit on
Happy to pay a realistic price.
I'm in Hertfordshire and don't want to travel too far but will for the right horse.
I am looking to do low level dressage (albeit affiliated) the odd show here and there, the odd fun/pleasure ride here and then. General hacking and schooling.
Edited to say happy to do long term loan, or loan to buy or whatever. open to ideas.
Hi Admin I'm happy to pay for this post if you require me too. Please email or pm me with the cost I will then give you a credit card number. Thanks.
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 10:54:44 AM
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| Tomorrow I shall go thru all the adverts again. And see what I've missed. I ring up so many that I forget. |
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geegee
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England
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 12:09:45 PM
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Ok, long list but your requests aren't unreasonable, and not meaning to make you feel any worse but I have a gelding at home that fits all of your requirements except his age, so they ARE about.
One of us on here must know of something......
Perhaps this latest list will show up the horse for you.
I'll trawl through some adverts too.
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geegee
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 12:16:19 PM
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on horsemart ref HM818BFG9
Is this too broad? can you believe that they are going to send him through the auctions if he is not sold by 5th June.... Some people.
It's not nice looking through those adverts  |
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geegee
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 12:19:57 PM
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| HM818D717 you learn something everyday. One of our members is a dealer! |
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marionpack
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England
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 2:08:28 PM
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| Read this thread when it started and have just updated myself with what is going on, I have just started looking for a gelding after retiring my boy, and after what Pixie has been through since September not looking forward to it, have to agree that a lot the adverts don't exactly described the horses, like Pixie I have now started a list of questions to ask, but when you ask them they sound so silly, but after traveling a good distance it's no fun when the horse doesn't meet up to the advert |
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geegee
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England
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 2:29:20 PM
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I can imagine how exasperating it is. I am having the same problem with finding a horsebox. You will be surprised what owners class as excellent condition 
I drove 2hrs each way last weekend, to view a box described as lovely paintwork = rust and needs tidying, one careful owner = 2, great condition = fair condition for age, CUT through = CRAWL through for a TINY person, great runner = sounds like a cherabang.
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 8:26:49 PM
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| Having been Arab Racing today and revisiting my past so to speak. I can only buy another Arab. Preferably one who has retired from racing. My wish list gets narrower. |
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erica giles
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 10:05:25 PM
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| Pixie I have just what you want. But she is mine and not for sale. Truly I spent years before she finally came to me. Because that is what will happen, when you least expect it the horse for you will find you. I promise |
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Lin123
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England
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 10:15:47 PM
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Pixie....I feel a 'Whisper' coming on...
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NUTTER
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England
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 11:00:18 AM
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I am also a believer they find you..
2 of mine found me and my old boy admittedly i bought him from a advertising horse paper but was drawn to the advert complete opposite of what i was looking for!!!
I viewed him ..tried him .. fell in love with him
was told 2 completly different stories about him and his history from owner and loan home!!!
Took a gamble bought him.. he was not easy.. bulshy *******
strong impossible to load into trailer..doddle a lorry, windsucked!! my vet was disgusted i purchased him!!! short footed!!terrible teeth from cribbing!!!
But have to say bless him he was wonderfull and i miss him still
Had him pts before christmas.. but i can honestly say out of all the horses i have owned he was one i adored...
although many people around here hated him as he also had a reputation for boulting!!
I LOVED HIM.. If i could have my time with him again, i would..
Which sounds mad as my three i am left with now.. forever are all so easy and well behaved in all aspects!!!
So Pixie i am not saying purchase a boulter!!!
but be open minded
It will happen when its meant to..
Just to add also my arab mare came to me at 8 she was as green as they come..
we were asked for Danika my daughter to show her then sell her on behalf of some friends of friends!!!
she reared if you put water anywhere near her!! awfull in traffic espeicilly tractors which is a very regular thing in these farm lanes!!! terrified of cattle!! etc etc
Within 12 months we could do anything with her and i am not the most confident competant horse person.. my at the time 11 year old daughter did it all with her..
So dont put yourself down saying yoiu dont want a youngster or something green as reading your post your far from unknowledgable as regards to equine health.. care.. riding.
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Pixie
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 1:30:17 PM
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Thanks guys for reading the entire works of "Shakespeare's diary" and thank you for your wise words.
Indeed a Whisper Clone would be wonderful. He/She is out there somewhere. |
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Gemma
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 1:44:43 PM
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The right horse WILL turn up.
Your description could have been of my Marygold, so they are out there. She's a total angel though so isn't going anywhere! |
 
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TC
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 2:23:04 PM
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| 3 weeks ago i bought my first arab.he was the first horse i looked at and it was love at first sight.bought him and hacked him home two days later and hes never put a barefoot hoof wrong.i realise im very lucky but i jst wanted you to know that it can and will happen pixie and its exciting to know that your perfect boy is out there somewhere.hop you find him soon .good luck.x |
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Pixie
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 2:28:44 PM
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| I already own the perfect horse. I am looking for a good second choice. The wish list is a bit of a moveable feast. I don't expect to tick all of the boxes but 70% of them would be good. |
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emmalouise
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 2:55:07 PM
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Would it be worth putting word out with the arab racing folk on here?
My boy ernie found me through a wanted ad on AL- he was just down the road and was just out of racing. He is utter perfection and as all I do is hack around the lanes he truly believes he has retired!
The ex racing arab he shares his field with is also a lovely ride with manners. I can't speak highly enough of ex racers. |
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Kirsty5278
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 7:40:46 PM
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| pixie... would it be possible to get in contact with some arab racing yards and see if they have any coming into retirement?? or even give them your contact details "just in case".... |
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mogwai
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England
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 8:19:47 PM
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How about this...
Chestnut Arab gelding by Imad out of Fiesta Magica (bred by Diana Whittome), 1995, 15.1hh. Excellent conformation.
Good to shoe, box, catch, handle, in traffic (even the scariest of huge farm tractors/trailers/milk tankers in
tight places). Same home 6 years and never put a foot wrong and such a sane and sensible ride you wouldn't
know he was an Arab! Been shown locally and at County Show level, done PC Camp, pleasure rides, Riding
Club. Hacks out alone or in company (usually alone). Loves jumping. Snaffle mouth. Sold with good quality tack (leather
Saddle Company saddle specially measured for him), and several stable/turnout rugs. £2,750. He is for sale
through no fault of his own, owner giving up horses due to health and other reasons. It has been a very difficult decision and is a very reluctant sale. An empathic, loving, permanent home sought, preferably with someone who has owned Arabs before . Carmarthenshire, Wales. Tel: Jennie on 01558 669018.
There are pictures too. This is quoted off another forum. PM me if you'd like to know which for the pics (he's very, very nice..an Imad son!) A bit older than you'd have liked, but hey! |
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Pixie
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 9:39:26 PM
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Thanks Mogwai - I new another Imad son who used to race but he would have made a lovely show horse. 13 is really too old - which I know is daft really.. 12 is really my upper limit and really would prefer below 10.
Re: the ex racers - that is where my heart lies. I have a few numbers to try. |
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Totalrookie
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Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 9:42:20 PM
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| Ah Pixie! I feel for you, I really do. You must feel as if you're in pursuit of the holy grail, but you will find someone, or they will find you. Keep the faith! Easier said than done, but I truly believe it'll happen soon. |
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Pixie
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Helen Newton
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Posted - 04 Jun 2008 : 10:39:17 AM
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Hi Pixie
Just interested to know, did your boy tick all those boxes when you bought him or have you made him the perfect pony he is today? I am just curious to know, because my way of thinking is that you can make your own perfect equine friend as long as you have good raw material to start off with. It can take a long time and once the job is done you don't want to part with them For example, you would probably love my Carly, but you wouldn't buy him anymore than I would sell him, he's too old (14) and has had ligament problems, but he is still my perfect pony What I'm trying to say is that people don't sell perfect horses, but that it is subjective anyway I have had Rooster for 3 years and still workiing on him - we will get there one day, I'm not giving up Probably no help to you at all, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that you will probably never find a horse who will live up to your high expections but if you are prepared to compromise for now you will be rewarded in the end Does that make any sense? Good Luck |
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Pixie
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Posted - 04 Jun 2008 : 11:26:45 AM
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Hi Helen
He did tick some of the boxes but by no means all of them. Probably 50%. He was offered on a years loan; And as he was just up the road from me it was worth a shot. I asked before I signed up for the full 12 months if I could have a months trial. I knew after 2 weeks that he was for me. I spent 6 months only walking. Undoing his race training. In that time I barely trotted and certainly did not canter. I took it very slowly. I then did some endurance, found out what a front running hard puller feels like across country. Tiring I can tell you and still is to this day. Anyway after 6 months bought him. And I was younger/fitter/more supple then.
You are right in what you say that I can make a horse into what I want - but need the raw material to start with. I can't find the raw material. If a horse has an upright shoulder it will have a small walk etc etc
I have a friend who makes a living out of starting and schooling youngsters and naughty horses and is brilliant. She is willing to help me for free. I don't want to buy something that is lame to start with, bites or kicks; or is far too much horse for me. There is nothing worse than being over horsed.
Its a big enough learning curve with any new horse let along being over horsed. I am more than happy to compromise but know my own limitations. I'm nothing if not realistic. Which leads me on to "high expectations". I don't really have high expectations. It may sound like it to you but I do not believe that its a high expectation for a horse to have a basic education ie. can pick its feet up, is not frighted of a brush, doesn't want to bite or kick, isn't lame, can walk in a straight line, has seen some traffic even if its not ridden in traffic. At shows there are lorries and cars. Many of the horses I have rung about I am told they do not load or travel well. Why? I don't get it. Why so many that you have to have a knack with or have to have company when travelling.
I am fed up with viewing
lame horses
horses am told are really well schooled and actually are not
what about the horse i was told was not strong when in fact it was wearing an American gag
saddles that don't fit and have never fitted
Some of these peoople selling horses actually haven't a clue what they are talking about.
Gone on all you selling timewasters get into Room 101 - Rant over.
I am not looking for the perfect horse. That has yet to be born. They are animals with their own brains after all.
The list i posted within these thread is only a wish list and like I have said before a "moveable feast".
Any further thoughts gratefully received.
I think I have only been to one viewing where the peoople were completely honest with me. The horse was not what I wanted. Very nice but not for me.
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Suelin
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Posted - 04 Jun 2008 : 11:45:44 AM
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| Pixie, you may have already done this, I don't know. Have you thought of advertising for exactly what you want? I did this when I was looking, and the first time I got Ollie and the next time Joe. I stated exactly what I wanted and got about 60 replies when I advertised for Ollie and was able to weed out the ones that weren't right for various reasons. Then when I advertised on here for a foal for showing I had 40 replies in 24 hours!! Definitely a buyers market. Also Ascot Arab racing sales coming up August time I think, sometimes a really nice bargain to be had there. Just some thoughts to cogitate. |
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