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cassy
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  10:32:18 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add cassy to your friends list Send cassy a Private Message
On behalf of my o/h his Anglo mare is ridden in a s/s plain and simple jointed snaffle, she however is so soft (rides from light seat and leg) this bit appears to be strong on her and she is a megga hot head and can leap/dance with the best of em

We need to use a running martingale as any quicker than trot she will leap and throw head around and dance away, she was vetted and has had teeth/back ect done but needs a milder bit, can anyone recommend something that may be suitable

Many thanks
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Honeyb060674
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  10:45:48 AM  Show Profile  Send Honeyb060674 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Honeyb060674 to your friends list Send Honeyb060674 a Private Message
I always rode my mare in a s/s german jointed snaffle. Very mild, simple & uncomplicated...If I tried anything else she objected! You OH's mare sounds like mine, very forward & hot but no braking problems, and will allow you to contain her fizz purely with your weight.


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arabic
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  11:15:10 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add arabic to your friends list Send arabic a Private Message
Hi Cassy,

I tried lots to find something that worked well for Freddie and the single joint was a definate no no!! I went through the happymouth stage and ended up the a Neue Schule hanging cheek (filet baucher) training lozenge (like a frenchlink). The lozenge is a little fatter than the link in a frenchlink and they are made of aurigan which is a very palatable metal. Freddie has been going like a dream in it for over a year now. Have a look on their website, their is tonnes of info.

Hope you find something that works for you mare.

Sandie
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BOULTONS
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  4:07:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BOULTONS to your friends list Send BOULTONS a Private Message
I second the Neue Schule hanging cheek (filet baucher) training lozenge. I did not think it would work when we first go it as the mouth piece is thin but the lozenge prevents a "nutcracker" effect and it has worked on several horses - one that had a previous mouth "issue" and another who is b***** minded and can refuse to be bridled but loves this bit.
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arabic
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  9:15:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add arabic to your friends list Send arabic a Private Message
I think the fact that it is thin gives it the advantage although the first train of thought is always " the narrower - the harsher"! In this case I think because they have such dainty mouths its actually more comfortable and if a bits is only as "harsh as the hands that use it" - no worries!!
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Judith S
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  9:45:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message
I like the Mylers with the comfort snaffle mouthpiece - the bit is perfectly shaped for a horses mouth - very kind as well!!

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moldequine
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  11:30:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add moldequine to your friends list Send moldequine a Private Message
I would recommend a loose ring happy mouth or if you have the money i would go for the myler. loose ring snaffles tend to be milder and i would say thinner the better as Arabic says arabs have very small mouths and a thick bit can be too much of a mouthful if you know what i mean.
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suzanna
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Posted - 19 Aug 2007 :  4:14:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add suzanna to your friends list Send suzanna a Private Message
If your horse rides from seat and leg why not go bitless!
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Porsche
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Posted - 19 Aug 2007 :  4:33:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Porsche to your friends list Send Porsche a Private Message
A TB I used to have was just like your OH's sounds. She was beautifully schooled, when schooling she went in a straight bar loose ring happy mouth snaffle but if you hacked her out in it she was the hottest horse going LOL
So, I tried her in a hackamore WHAT A CHANGE!!!! She turned into a lamb to hack! No more jogging etc she was just a star!!

Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.


RIP Fuzzy Bear...Angela RIP......Legacy 1day old...............La Carrera.................Aisa and Bruce
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cassy
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  09:16:09 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cassy to your friends list Send cassy a Private Message
The baucher (schule) was a little better though not much, head is everywhere, she throws head around with any contact at all, all teeth ect have been checked but we will try rubber next and poss hackamore if that doesnt work

I was thinking re a bitless bridle like dr cook or something as can ride from halter fine though need martingale as still throws head in any pace other than walk, can even stop her on stubble from voice and seat so she isnt strong but does throw head all over
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Pasha
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  11:57:29 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasha to your friends list Send Pasha a Private Message
I use the Neue Schule hanging cheek with lozenge on Pasha and he goes very well in it, but I used to ride my Anglo, who sounds exactly the same as yours, in a loose ring jointed rubber snaffle - I found the rubber a lot softer in his mouth and he went beatifully in it!

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moldequine
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  12:14:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add moldequine to your friends list Send moldequine a Private Message
i would try a loose ring french link in a happy mouth. loose rings are always milder and link are too, so if you can get one in a happy mouth you will have a very mild bit.
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suzanna
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  6:28:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add suzanna to your friends list Send suzanna a Private Message
Cassy, where are you based, if you are close to me I can let you try some of my bitless bridles I ride my arabs bitless so have quite a selection. I`m in Mid Wales if you would like to borrow any of them you are very welcome

Suzi
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cassy
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  09:39:03 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cassy to your friends list Send cassy a Private Message
That is so very kind of you Suzi but we are in Little Weighton East Yorkshire so around 4hrs away from you (a shame your not close as would be welcome to ride her yourself), we may be taking her to the jumping in Sept at David Broom yard cricklands equestrian which may be nr you ? but will see how she goes, she is forward going and very very light in hand, excellant from leg with yielding ect and doesnt go even if let her, the most she does is prance forward but i guess its not a bad thing been able to ride from seat and voice without needing anything else, she has to have a martingale as will carry herself lovely on her own but once she prances she does throw head around a bit
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leezee26
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 :  3:59:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add leezee26 to your friends list Send leezee26 a Private Message
Hi Ive just bought a Pee-Wee bit, pretty thin, supposed to be fab for fussy mouthed horses, a client highly recommended one to me after putting both her mares in it, she couldnt believe the transformation in them. If you google Peewee bits, you can see a demo on them, it came very quickly and is under £50. They are sweet iron mouthpeice and I really like the fact they are thin, far more room for the horses tongue etc. Good luck.Lx
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TommyH
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  09:20:04 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TommyH to your friends list Send TommyH a Private Message
I'd try bitless. Changed it for all my horses- works WONDERFUL!!

Tommy Husebye
Tenaya Araber - Norway
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SarahA
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  4:56:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SarahA to your friends list Send SarahA a Private Message
Hi Angela

Only just seen your link, hope your ok.

Amber also very very sensitive in her mouth, tried all sorts, she is quite good with a straight nathe bit, but eventually starts to chew them, so i have also got a Myler comfort snaffle with fixed cheeks, she seems very comfortable in this.

Anything with Hanging Cheeks is too severe for her as she doesnt like the poll pressure, anything with joints (ie standard snaffle) are also too strong for her and she backs off, found one that doesnt nutcracker that was about £25.00 and she seemed ok in that as well, and she also seems ok in a straight bar as long as it has loose rings.

Think thats everything

Have a good weekend, will catch up soon.

Sarah


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suzanna
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  5:19:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add suzanna to your friends list Send suzanna a Private Message
Cassy, what a shame you don`t live closer Your horse sounds really lovely and so sensitive to your seat, my Arabs are just like that also. I`m not close to the David Broom centre, but have been there before. If I do manage to get there I`ll look out for you.
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cassy
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Posted - 24 Aug 2007 :  10:02:20 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cassy to your friends list Send cassy a Private Message
so far egbut snaffle, french link, scule baucher, loose ring snaffle in happy mouth all no go, we are seriously debating trying to find a bitless bridle or a hackamore to go on her black sabre one but where can we get one, she is a lovely responsive and not at all strong ride but simply not one bit happy when bitted :(
O/H debated the myler combination but im not so sure that will work due to her champing/grinding as soon as bridled, she has had teeth done by edt and all vet checks its just her mouth issues
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TommyH
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Posted - 24 Aug 2007 :  11:44:31 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TommyH to your friends list Send TommyH a Private Message
Cassy,

we use Dr. Cooks bitless bridle. SUPERB. You will find it at http://www.bitlessbridle.co.uk/

Tommy Husebye
Tenaya Araber - Norway
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leezee26
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Posted - 24 Aug 2007 :  1:04:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add leezee26 to your friends list Send leezee26 a Private Message
I have received my peewee bit and tried it on my friends very fussy Fell...Brilliant, he was so much happier and easier to ride! I really do recommend giving it ago, I think you can hire one, it came from the saddlery shop. Lx
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