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Miska
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 Posted - 09 Aug 2007 : 8:49:36 PM
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A girl at our yard has just got an arab on loan and I would love to know her bloodlines. Her show name is Tailor Made and she is by Crystal Silver (Ma Alishah x Crystal sheen) x Krisaam (Supersonic x Charisma) - i am unsure about the last two names as i am doing them from memory.
If someone could fill it in on allbreeds that would be brilliant :D (you may want to check the accuracy of my spelling first on datasource or something similar)
Also if anyone knows any info on her bloodlines (i would particularly like to know if she is crabbet, polish, egyptian etc etc), then I can sound clever when talking to the arab's loanee 
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Barabia
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Posted - 09 Aug 2007 : 11:12:36 PM
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Here she is: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tailor+made8
I can fill in some more info (color, breeder etc.) when I got the time for it, and also count the crabbet % if you want.
There are some egyptian lines in her pedigree, which I'm sure Mike can tell you all about.
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Miska
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 11:58:34 AM
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Thats great! Thank you! i don't know anything about Egyptian lines - i only recognise crabbet and old english (because that is what my girl is)
Thanks again for the info - very useful! |
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gossy
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Barabia
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 10:44:58 PM
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Miska, thank you.. I'll be back to you!
Paula, I will check them up within a couple of days!
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Barabia
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 10:40:48 PM
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Hi Paula, sorry for the delay.. it will take some more days! I'm not finished with Judith's horse yet (she is no.1 in another thread) and then there is Miska's horse (no.2), so bare with me, please!
The US horses (very looong lines) makes my hair very curly!! 
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gossy
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Barabia
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Posted - 18 Aug 2007 : 9:43:10 PM
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Hi 'Miska'.
Tailor Made is roughly 25% Egypt/75% English and a little dash of Polish (not much to count). All incl. 78,67% Crabbet!
Her paternal grand sire M A Alishah is straight Egyptian (incl. 32,08% Crabbet). Here is a link to his famous sire Ruminaja Ali, also a video-link at the bottom: http://www.egyptianarabians.com/bergren/egyptian_stallions/ali.html
TAILOR MADE:
Sire-line SAKLAWI I Or.Ar. through Nazeer
Dam-line RODANIA Or.Ar. through Rose Of Sharon (Crabbet)
Strain: Kehilah Ajuz
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Miska
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Posted - 18 Aug 2007 : 10:18:22 PM
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Thank you Bia! Her grandsire is stunning - a lovely video! The info is really usefull and interesting, so thanks again. :D Will go and relay this to the owner now. I will sound very smart and intelligent :D
Your help has been very much appreciated
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Barabia
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 : 3:55:54 PM
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Hi Paula, at last I'm finished with the percentage, sorry for the delay!
Magic Sparkle is 58,96% Crabbet, mostly from her dam who is 100% English incl. 91% Crabbet.
Starlight Khaleefah is a 'Golden Cross' =Egypt/Spanish incl. 16,32% Crabbet, mostly from her sire who is 100% straight Egyptian inlc. 26,92% Crabbet.
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Jenni5
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 : 10:46:04 PM
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Hi Bia
do you think, if its not to much hassle, you could work out El Tanaya's (Tanni's) crabbet percentage, as i have no idea!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/el+tanaya
it would be great to know about if he has got crabbet, or what type of arab he is!
thanks
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Barabia
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 7:45:05 PM
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Hi Jenni, oh my.. dose he have Crabbet? YEES, he is 99,40% (100% GSB)! Wow, such a lovely pedigree! He has so many wonderful 'oldies' close up, wow again!!
He is a heavy influenced Kuhailan Ajuz (Rodania, Dajania, Skowronek..), but he also has eleven lines to Mesaoud (20,70% in blood).. who is a Seglawi Jedran. I'm not sure if that will influence over the Kuhailan? You should ask 'our' superior teacher Egbert in the Tail female line thread about Tanni, I would be glad to read the answer!!
Tanni's Sire-line is ZOBEYNI Or.Ar. (trough Mesaoud)
http://www.arieana.com/nbmesaou.html#mesaoud
Dam-line is SELMA I Or.Ar. (trough Sobha)
http://www.arieana.com/nborigma.html#sob
Strain: Hamdanieh Simrieh
Oh, and his dam Mattaniah is a first generation 'pure-in-the-strain' Hamdanieh Simrieh (Sobha).
Here is an explanation about 'pure-in-the-strain':
http://members.aol.com/NadaraDefs/WebPage/strain.html
Happy reading!
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Jenni5
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 10:57:13 PM
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Wow!!! thankyou!!! i thought he would be quite high crabbet percentage, but not that high!
thats brill then. I was actually at the seminar that was held with 'Egbert', and most of the things she said was very close to what Tanni is like, in performance and looks!
Because of his strain, he is pretty, which his is ( often gets mistaken for a girl!) that he is kind, gentle ect. and will be a good endurance horse! everything that describes him
If you have time could you do another arab for me 
Horus (Rossi)
I think that he is crabbet/polish lines, thats what iv been told, but again would love to know the percentages if its not too much trouble
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/horus7
Thankyou soo much again, has made my day |
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Nicky F
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 7:06:47 PM
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Jenni/Barabia,
Thank you so much for this - I have long wanted to know Tanni's percentage but didn't have a clue how to find out, you've put a big smile on my face today! I had a feeling that he was quite high Crabbet blood after listening to Egbert at the seminar.
Bia, what does 100% GSB mean (being really thick here!)? His temperament is lovely, he's a very kind horse and will try his heart out for you, but on occasions he does have attitude and can be a naughty boy now and then! He has an amazing 'power trot' which is really something to see but he hasn't been shown as I bought him to do endurance with.
As Jenni says, I would also be grateful if you could work out Rossi's percentage for me (Horus - Muzeero/Phareller)? |
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Barabia
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 8:31:07 PM
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Hi Jenni and Nicky, I'm working on Rossi's percentage & bloodlines.. soon to be finished! Now I'm confused, do you both own this horses as you both are wondering about them. Not that have to know.. just a bit curious!
Oops, forgot to answer about 100% GSB, sorry!! It means that every horse at the end of the pedigree is registered in the General Stud Book. The last horse who was registered as GSB 1921 was Skowronek.
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Jenni5
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 8:34:59 PM
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Hi Bia
Rossi and Tanni both belong to Nicky, but I started part loaning Tanni and rode Rossi while we sorted out when Tanni was coming back home
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Barabia
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 8:42:03 PM
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Thanks for your explanation, it's good to know 'who is who'!!
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Barabia
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 11:10:06 PM
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Back from work!
Rossi (Horus) is 25% Egypt (from El Mongi), 6,25% each Russian (fr. Nabor) & Polish (fr. Gehenna), 62,5% English (didn't count GSB/Old English).
All is incl. 65,23% Crabbet. He also has a few drops of good French blood through Ziph's dam line, but it's not worth counting, just to let you know!
Sire-line: SAKLAWI I (through Nazeer, 25% Crabbet)
http://www.elmasri.net/cgi-bin/geneal.pl?op=tree&index=13537&gens=5&db=horsefl.dbw
Dam-line: RODANIA Or.Ar (through Rosemary, 100% Crabbet)
http://www.arieana.com/nbrose4.html#rosemary
Strain: Kehilah Adjuz (Rodania)
A fascinating pedigree with some names close up that I never heard of, that's cool! But also some famous ones such as Indriss, Fari II, Mikeno.. to name a few!
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Jenni5
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 : 1:06:55 PM
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Thankyou soo much Bia, for ages me and Nicky have been wanting to know the percentages of both Tanni and Rossi, and now its great to know what they are
Thankyou soo much again
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Nicky F
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 : 2:57:30 PM
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Thank you so much Bia, Rossi is my soul-mate (even though he is a grumpy old sod at times) and I knew about the Egyptian and Polish bits, but Russian! Wow!! He definitely has presence and can strut his stuff with the best of them (even at 24 years old!). He is the first 2 photos in my sig pics.
Bia, thank you so much for taking the time to do this for us, I really appreciate it.
Nicky
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Barabia
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Posted - 24 Aug 2007 : 11:50:27 PM
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My pleasure.. Jenni & Nicky, and thanks for your kind words!
Good luck with your boys, I'm sure they will live many years.. because of their bloodlines! 
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Slave 2 Magic
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She's just Magic to me and means the world to me but it would be nice to know her percentage breeding.
