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suneanarab
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 Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 09:43:07 AM
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i have 2 chickens that have been going out in my turnout area. i have not been using it for the horses coz it's been far too wet. however, now it's dry i'm wondering is it safe to put the horses back in it after the chickens have been on it. i'm thinking about salmonella (spelling) from thier droppings.
i know others of you have chucks so do yours go in the same area as your horses??
thanks
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Pixie
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 10:18:15 AM
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| I kept my horse on a farm where the chickens roamed freely. And also two of my friend keep horses at home and both have chickens. Don't know of any problems. All the chickens have freely roamed and not been caged in one area though. Sorry thats about as much as i can impart of the subject. I'd ask your vet - he/she will know for definite. |
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suneanarab
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Offira
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 10:45:20 AM
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| My 26 year old stallion, Sihrabba (Ben Rabba x Desert Magic) has shared his huge field with 6,000 free range chickens for years and not had any health problems. I was a bit worried about their droppings at first and change the water in the trough frequently as they do like to gather on it and occasionally one of them falls in. Some horses might take exception to flappy things round their feet though! |
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suneanarab
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 10:58:01 AM
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thanks offira! my son is sat at the side of me and laughed his head off when he read this. we only have 2 buff opingtons at the mo (plan to get some more) but they are very funny to watch and falling in a water trough is just the sort of thing they would do.
i won't be letting them out at the same time as odin though. he's a bit of a thug when it comes to birds. we had a black bird nest on his window sill last year, when her tail feather came through the mest over the window he pulled them out! he hates pidgeons with a pashion and won't let them in the turnout with him and chases them off. but he does seem to like magpies and lets them climb up his tail and mane. though we do have one that started going in to his stable and yesterday i found some of it's tail feathers in there!
so considering that my girls are so big and can't get out of his way so fast i think it's not such a good idea to allow them in at the same time. i may end up with bald chucks!! |
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arabic
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 11:10:17 AM
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Not much help, but I do remember something years ago - the people we got Freddie from kept chickens and they roamed freely with the horses. Then there was some escapade and I cant remember if the horses were poorly but I remember a vet being involved and the chickens going because of something the horses could have caught. As I say it is a very vague button you have pressed and I really cant remember. Perhaps the chicks were poorly with something detrimental to the horses, I dont know. Since they still keep chickens, but separate from the horses. Perhaps a vet could put your mind at rest.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 12:02:51 PM
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| My chickens roam free and are always in with the horses, we also have pheasants every where and on one occation one horse showed an worm egg,on the count, that had come from a fowl/bird. |
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jaybird
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 12:09:06 PM
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Hi Susanne
Definately, chicks are great for eating the tic's and other nasties, from the field, a great asset.
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Pixie
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 12:13:39 PM
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oooo and on the same vein the chickens used to eat the bits of feed the horses dropped and we never saw mice or rates on the farm. having said that there were a few cats and terriers too which probably had more to do with the lack of rodents. but the chickens did pick up the left over feed.
Also while i think of it - a girl was mucking out her horse one morning and under the bank found a chicked which had been completely squashed flat. it looked like a frisby. we think her horse had laid on it in the night. poor thing. what a horrible death it must have had. a great big cob laying down on you can't be nice. please no laughing and yes it is true. |
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cassy
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 1:08:00 PM
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my old Arab once laid on a chicken too and that was also as flat as flat could be:(
The only thing about them when my horse had to have some tests at Liverpool vets they asked if we had them incase of mites, up until lately there has always been a few though not many chickens around my horses and had no problem |
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Deboniks
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 2:25:20 PM
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Sorry that this is off topic Good luck with you chucks by the way Suzanne
But I wondered if you had any photos of your stallion Sihrabba (Ben Rabba x Desert Magic)Shelagh?
Was he used as a stud? Any progeny in the UK? I loved Ben Rabba and Aurab. I bought the book The Crabbet Arabian Stud and someone had left a photo of Ben Rabba in the back of it he was AWESOME |
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Judith S
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 5:33:27 PM
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| Our horses & free range hens mix - never had any probs! |
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pat ww
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 7:27:16 PM
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Our first foal was born in a stable where the resident token chicken had chosen as its home. no problems, and since then swallows/ swifts/ starlings (small fast brown birds) nested in rafters above the foaling mares and no problems there either.
I draw the line at the geese though, they are wild and arrive each February and stay through the summer. the mess is unbelievable.
I would also like to see a photo of a Ben Rabba son. Was he imported as a double ben rabba grandson was sold last year and he would be about 16 |
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Judith S
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 : 7:55:11 PM
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| We had geese where we lived before - yes Pat agree about the mess!! UGG!!! & our neds killed two geese - they used to go up to the neds & pull their tails & both got one two many well aimed back kicks !!!!! |
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suneanarab
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 3:23:45 PM
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thanks guys,
i have since put the boys out in the turnout area after putting the chucks away. odin is facinated by the noise they make and i just know he's die-ing to get hold of all those lovely feathers!! they are just going through a change of feathers at the mo so they are everywhere!! kenny thought it would be good to try and eat them and oding blew them all over apparently disgusted that someone had beaten him to pulling them out!
thanks again i feel much better about it all!
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Offira
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 11:37:58 AM
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Suneanarab - your son might also be interested to know that the chickens have ladders each end of the trough to enable them to climb out if they tumble in. This came about after one was found floating in the water half dead and had to be taken home wrapped in a fleece and put by a radiator for the night!
I am v v jealous of the buff orpingtons. I've always wanted some. |
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Offira
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 11:52:29 AM
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Here we are Deboniks and pat ww, some pictures of Sihrabba - (hope not too many - sorry!) He was bred in the UK by the Flowersfield stud but sold back to Beatrice Paine as he was a colt. I purchased him at 3, I was looking for a riding horse - definately not a stallion, but there we are! He was shown as a youngster, but was really too laid back and found dressage and jumping much more interesting. He has sired mostly part-breds and they are all like him, very obliging and affectionate. I have a pure bred daughter out of Rosaria (Fari II x Mameena), she is lovely (but also terribly quiet!). Ben Rabba was really quite special and it's great to think people are still interested in him.
Sihrabba as a foal with Desert Magic
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Debbie
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 2:38:24 PM
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| I have always had free range hens in the same field as the horses. I now have a selection of blue Marans, french marans, marans, black rock, Blue Columbian Buff Brahmas, light sussex, black Cochin and buff orpingtons....I think thats all - oh, and this years mix of breeds chicks! |
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Geena
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 3:04:31 PM
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| I used to keep my colt with the chickens and when i whistle to the chickens to come in he used to be herded by Reggie the cockril to come in too!! |
  
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jaj
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 9:05:13 PM
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Gorgeous photos Offira !
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suneanarab
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 11:45:31 AM
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it started as jed wanted chickens and he was given a hybred hen with 3 silky chicks. we got up one morning to find they had been killed and the hen missing. jed was devastated as they were the first things to be his.
so nev made the equivalent of a chicken air raid shelter and we looked for something we both liked. i fell for the orpingtons straight away and was lucky enough to speak to the gent who runs the buff orpington club. he put me in touch with my local breeders and it went from there. jed thought they were great when we went to see them and so we came home with the 2 girls. it's unfortunate that we can't have the male as well, but my neighbours are bad enough with the horses let alone him crowing his head off!
but andy has kindly said that we can have some buff eggs for the girls to sit on next year when they go broody. i can't wait!! the are a lovely chicken and i'm very suprised at how quickly their personalities come out. vicky is very laid back and quite tame, whereas charlie is a bit more stand offish but likes to be stoked once you have her. they are very funny and i'm so glad we have them!
offira, i have always loved ben rabba from the first photo i saw of him in the ahs news. your pics are great!! |
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Arabmare
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 1:54:39 PM
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Where I am moving my horses to they have geese and chickens, I was a bit worried but reading this post has made me feel better!
Love your stallion, he is gorgeous! I have a Ben Rabba grand daughter! She looks a bit like your lad! |
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Offira
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Posted - 19 Aug 2007 : 9:40:26 PM
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Hi Suneanarab
I'm even more jealous now you are going to have baby chicks! I went to one of Michael Harris's open days and there were loads of chicks running about with the horses. They were so sweet. I agree about chickens having characters - even though there are 6,000 chickens on the farm, there are always about 8 that make friends with the horse and follow him about using him as a mobile shelter. Good luck with your hatching and watch out for that fox! |
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Offira
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Posted - 19 Aug 2007 : 10:04:05 PM
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Thanks for your comments Arabmare, I had a look at your website (nice horses!) and your mare she looks very much like Sihrabba. Great photos of you riding her, she looks like a busy girl. I saw a photo of Ben Shirab once and thought he looked very lovely and of course Shriphala produced really good performance horses - I think Samad was her son and he could really jump. There is another mare on your site - Koni - how is she bred?
BTW, Sihrabba wasn't awfully brave when he lived with some rather uppity geese, luckily his pony friend waded in and sorted them out! |
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