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alkarif
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Posted - 28 Jun 2007 :  6:57:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add alkarif to your friends list Send alkarif a Private Message
As we all know The Arab Horse Society has an active welfare team, who work tirelessly and totally voluntary. In the light of the current flooding tragedies, we are hearing of losses of properties, equipment, feed/fodder etc., There are a number of ALiners and other arabian horse owners who are seriously affected by this un-seasonal weather. Our hearts go out to them. Perhaps we now have a source for collection and distribution of some more of the material assistance required. I have spoken to our AHS Welfare Officers and they are willing to set up a contingency fund for welfare matters within the society.

Clearly it is quite important to have regular fundraising events to assist many aspects of welfare within our society. Perhaps someone else has some suggestions for regular fundraising, so when the need arises there is a source to go to, and of course, be there when the need is most urgent.

This 'Welfare Fund' would open up a destination or register as appropriate, for donations of money, equipment, temporary stabling/accomodation, feed/fodder etc. so if you can help in any way please don't hesitate.

I would have suggested running one of those fabulous stallion breeding auctions to top up the AHS welfare fund, but I have never done one, but would be willing to administrate if necessary, who knows the requirements.

In the meantime, if you feel you can help in any way possible, please contact AHS Welfare direct. (See the Website). In the same directive if you know of someone who could benefit from assistance please do not hesitate to notify one of the officers or staff at Windsor House, and hopefully we can provide the type of welfare support the AHS members can be proud of.

Brenda M - Al Karif Arabians





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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 28 Jun 2007 :  7:25:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Why not have a stallion parade? all stallion owners to pay a fee of one hundred pounds to parade their horses for the public without competition, I personally dont hold with a stallion breeding auction as it can go terribly wrong for all concerned. but a stallion parade will let people see all those stallions they only see in photo's ( and they might then want to use those stallions!) I would happily pay £100 to the AHS horses welfare and I am sure other stallion owners would be happy to do the same. all we need is a venue and some planning


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alkarif
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Posted - 29 Jun 2007 :  09:02:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alkarif to your friends list Send alkarif a Private Message
An excellent idea Lyndilou. I must admit I did have my tongue in my cheek about the auction considering things in the recent past. You have come up with an excellent suggestion now all we need to know is how many people would endorse a stallion parade or 'SHOWCASE', with something a little different included. My mind is now working overtime, and hopefully there are others out there with more ideas. A working Welfare Fund is essential to aid situations when they happen, we had a fabulous Tsunami Appeal as a one off, but our welfare concerns goes on, day in, day out, and critical situations need immediate help in both practical and physical ways.

Obviously events and such take a little time to get off the ground and we are talking of a long term commitment to welfare in general, so the more ideas and suggestions the better, to enable us to get things into a working programme.

Everyone must be aware of the crisis in hand right now! 'Floods!' Whilst a long term fund can begin and hopefully progress, we need to address this immediate crisis and see what is needed to help those people struggling in these adverse conditions. Time to take some action now and 'Be Prepared' (God I sound like a Boy Scout or Girl Guide, can't remember whose motto that belongs to, very appropriate though). I'll try to keep everyone updated on the progress as it unfolds.

Brenda M - Al Karif Arabians




Brenda M - Al Karif Arabians

“God made the horse from the breath
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May they forever run with our hearts....."
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bxps
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Posted - 29 Jun 2007 :  2:40:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bxps to your friends list Send bxps a Private Message
If you were looking for a venue how about talking to Georgina at ARO to see whether it could be incorporated into one of the race meetings between now and he end of the season (October)

David Paton BXPS Racing

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nikki
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Posted - 29 Jun 2007 :  3:46:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
what a brilliant idea!

I would love to help out-i don't have much to offer in terms of replacing things(my stuff usually gets stolen)

pagey
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cmj
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Posted - 29 Jun 2007 :  9:03:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cmj to your friends list Send cmj a Private Message
I have a beautiful colt by a lovely stallion thanks to his owner's kindness in donating a nomination to the Tsunami auction. I am very hopeful of another lovely foal by a quality stallion donated to the Breast Cancer Auction - and the money went to the charity. So please don't rule out auctions in the future.

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Pauline
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Posted - 30 Jun 2007 :  3:12:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Pauline's Homepage  Click to see Pauline's MSN Messenger address  Send Pauline a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add Pauline to your friends list Send Pauline a Private Message
You could try and do a parade at the Arab Day at Newbury races on July 22nd.

It is Dubai International weekend and there will be a lot of people there this year as it is 25 years at Newbury.

Pauline

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alkarif
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Posted - 01 Jul 2007 :  06:31:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alkarif to your friends list Send alkarif a Private Message
All suggestions are very gratefully received and to be successful takes a bit of planning and time. I'm not ruling out auctions cmj just making certain of crossing t's and dotting i's, I am well aware how successful they can be, and how incredibly generous the owners are to donate the coverings from their wonderful stallions. I am hoping to hold both independant events and some projects combined with other fixtures, some may be regional where all our groups can be involved and some national, the possibilities are endless. It is so good to hear other suggestions so keep them coming. I have one or two things for the very near future so 'Watch this Space' or at least the Forthcoming Events info. Thanks again everyone.

Brenda M - Al Karif Arabians



Brenda M - Al Karif Arabians

“God made the horse from the breath
of the wind, the beauty of the earth,
and the soul of the angel.....
May they forever run with our hearts....."

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cmj
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Posted - 01 Jul 2007 :  3:30:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cmj to your friends list Send cmj a Private Message
Hi Brenda

Glad to hear auctions aren't ruled out. Sorry if I sounded a bit "off", just somebody seemed very against it and I'm all for it Think it would be good to have some other items in the auction too, bit like EBay, for those who don't want to breed. I think most of us would have something. I've certainly got a good quality little arab-fitting dressage saddle I would put in.

I would be happy to help typing up lists, keeping records or whatever. Will try to find out more about law relating to auctions and suitable real-time software from my colleagues at work.

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bxps
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Posted - 02 Jul 2007 :  1:42:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bxps to your friends list Send bxps a Private Message
I spoke to Georgina at ARO and she suggested there could be an opportunity at Nottingham on August 18th if you wanted to discuss it with her.

Newbury would be a great opportunity but I suspect that most of the organising is already in place for this year and the sponsors want to focus upon Dubai and its businesses.

But for the future it could be something which could be incorporated.

David Paton BXPS Racing

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MinHe
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Posted - 02 Jul 2007 :  11:23:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Originally posted by bxps

I spoke to Georgina at ARO and she suggested there could be an opportunity at Nottingham on August 18th if you wanted to discuss it with her.

Newbury would be a great opportunity but I suspect that most of the organising is already in place for this year and the sponsors want to focus upon Dubai and its businesses.

But for the future it could be something which could be incorporated.

David Paton BXPS Racing


If people would like to do something at Nottingham, I am exceedingly local to the racecourse (just the other side of town!), and would be willing to help (maybe even bring one of my boys to a stallion parade!).

If people are 'off' an auction, why not have a raffle for a service instead? Make tickets a reasonable price, say £10 a shot, and sell them for each horse individually. That way, people could 'back' as many stallions as they wanted, and could put in what they wanted to on each, rather than playing safe and just bidding on one. I think it would also be very exciting (says she, never won anything in an AHS raffle bar two pairs of socks! ) Much more fun than the lottery, anyway, lol!

Keren
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alkarif
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 :  10:49:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alkarif to your friends list Send alkarif a Private Message
Getting some good responses on here and from elsewhere, doing the logistics will be back on shortly.
Thanks for the support! Seems everyone is willing to support an ongoing welfare fund.

Brenda M



Brenda M - Al Karif Arabians

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and the soul of the angel.....
May they forever run with our hearts....."
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Jenny Lees
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Posted - 06 Jul 2007 :  4:36:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny Lees to your friends list Send Jenny Lees a Private Message
Count us in at Pearl Island Arabians. Stallion parade sounds like a good idea, why not in the main ring at the AHS show at Malvern?
Jenny.
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 14 Jul 2007 :  9:50:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message
I don't seem to have a lot of luck with raffles/auctions. I won a covering in the AHS raffle at Malvern years ago and didn't get my covering, very annoying. Then I won a nomination in the Tsunami auction and lost my money, again no covering. I won a covering in the auction this year and it looks like I won't get that either although at least I haven't paid this time so haven't lost anything.

I would be happy to pay £100 to take my stallion to a parade so long as it wasn't too far away but not this year as I am waiting for an eye operation and will then be laid up for about three weeks so can't plan anything at the moment.

Barbara

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pat ww
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 :  3:35:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pat ww to your friends list Send pat ww a Private Message
The Tsunami auction was a good idea, but like Barbara could not use one of the 2 I won because the owner had him sold and gelded before my mare had even lost her winter coat.

I would support another one if the stallion owners who put their horses forward were under more of an obligation to honour the offer. As it was I ended up paying twice, as although Sally offered the lovely Focus Shatino as an alternative, he had his problem and got gelded against eveyones wishes, for his own health.

The AHS used to raffle nominations at Malvern, do they still do it? I think that is an excellent idea, even if you could say, group the stallions into £50 raffle fee, to £10 raffle fee, for the kindly offered but less popular or untried stallions. Maybe limit tickets for the dearer boys to say 20 if the normal fee would be £500, so you could buy several different tickets with a good chance of success.

I am willing to help any admin. for fund raising that can be done at home, eg collating, write ups, etc.
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paul_exe
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 :  9:30:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul_exe to your friends list Send paul_exe a Private Message
I am very sorry to hear that at least 2 people did not receive the coverings that they won in the Tsunami action, why was this?
The people donated their horses, so they should have honoured their agreement
I would willingly offer my stallion for a covering, for a good cause, and yes I would honour it...... He is not an arab though, so have not pushed him forward on this site, although I hope JudithS liked the photos I sent her?

Paul



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Miska
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Posted - 20 Jul 2007 :  10:20:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit Miska's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Miska to your friends list Send Miska a Private Message
Ok this might have already been done - i don't know as I am not part of the arab breeding world (well not yet - am working on it :D). But could you make say a DVD with loads of stallions showing off their stuff and sell it to the people who own mares looking for a stallion. Its a similar idea to the stallion parade but digital with people able to watch it from the other side of the world :D. The DVD could also include a little about the stallion, their pedigree and stud fee etc. I've always loved drooling over the tb stallions in the racing-stallion catalogues (my dad breeds tb's) but have never seen a catalogue type thing for arabs...I hope this makes sense and that i am not making a fool of myself :D

Though this is perhaps more something to do next year...as it would take time organising


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pat ww
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Posted - 20 Jul 2007 :  1:38:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pat ww to your friends list Send pat ww a Private Message
Such a simple sensible idea no-one could have thought of it! some individuals do send out video /dvd but would be so much better for a compilation to be made. Even non mare owners would buy a reasonably priced copy for their collections, and stallion owners fund their own costs on producing their couple of minutes.

Perhaps this needs a new thread?
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pleasures
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Posted - 20 Jul 2007 :  2:11:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pleasures to your friends list Send pleasures a Private Message
What a fantastic idea the simplest things great
Sue
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redrosey123red
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Posted - 02 Aug 2007 :  11:57:24 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redrosey123red to your friends list Send redrosey123red a Private Message
I would love to help i can offer temporary stabling and help in that area also i would support any fundraising event
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 04 Aug 2007 :  4:55:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message
My stallion is a very good looking (and well bred) boy but and I don't know anyone who has seen him who hasn't liked him. He has a public footpath along the side of his field and I have had several notes in my post box from people who want use him but alas they have all had ponies and he is a VERY big boy, 15 3" and a very large whatsit!!!! However, with my photos you wouldn't cross the road to see him whereas I have seen other stallions who looked fabulous and when I have seen them in the flesh, oh dear!!!

I would certainly take him to a stallion parade if it wasn't too far away and would be happy to let one or two people use him and donate the money to the welfare fund but don't know about a video/photo for a DVD.

NEW YEAR RESOLUTION FOR 2008
Take better photos.

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alistair leslie
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 :  11:56:27 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alistair leslie to your friends list Send alistair leslie a Private Message

Is it not a fundamental reason for the existence of the AHS?

I note in the accounts that£100 was placed in the welfare fund by the Society?
Are we serious about charity status?


blue moon
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Smiler
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Posted - 19 Aug 2007 :  9:08:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Smiler to your friends list Send Smiler a Private Message
I may get shot down in flames but is there no other way to raise money for the welfare fund than offering coverings , in a world that already see's thousands of horses go through the meat trade because there are to many horses being bred ( im not talking just arabs ) but im sure there are a lot that go this way !!!! we need to raise funds some other way this is a large board can we not have some kind of get together or aution nights !!!!!!!!


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alkarif
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 :  12:35:24 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alkarif to your friends list Send alkarif a Private Message
Hi Again everyone - been off for a while, thinking and doing and such like. Being a firm believer in preparation I have been busy setting up programs for events over the next couple of years, some directed particularly at Arabs and others combining other breeds. Shows aren't the only progress and I definitely like the DVD idea as a compilation or 'Showcase' which could be very informative as well as useful - Brilliant Idea!

I do hope everyone will keep on submitting ideas and in the fullness of time a lot of these can come to fruition and make benefits to our AHS Welfare Fund.

I appreciate your comments Alaistair, and very interesting to read about the state of affairs of the existing fund.

Brenda M - Al Karif Arabians



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and the soul of the angel.....
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Coral Wings
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 :  10:10:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coral Wings to your friends list Send Coral Wings a Private Message
I have about 15 rugs (mostly turnout) for 15hh + horses but all need attention (some need stitching), where could I give these for welfare as they are just gathering dust in my garage!!
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Zan
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 :  10:22:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message
Originally posted by Smiler

I may get shot down in flames but is there no other way to raise money for the welfare fund than offering coverings , in a world that already see's thousands of horses go through the meat trade because there are to many horses being bred ( im not talking just arabs ) but im sure there are a lot that go this way !!!! we need to raise funds some other way this is a large board can we not have some kind of get together or aution nights !!!!!!!!


Well said Smiler.It does seem a bit wierd to attempt to make money to save horses who have fallen on hard times by offering coverings to create yet more horses in an overcrowded market.Also, in an ideal world of only carefully planned and wanted foals coming into it, surely stallion owners should pick and choose which mares that come to them rather than selling to the highest bidder no matter that it is a good cause

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