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bridie
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 Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 11:34:55 AM
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I would love to use a coloured stallion who was high % arab, homogonous too as I would like a bit of colour around. I do like a few but they are not homogonous.I think im running out of time for this year too.
Lynda.....I thought you were cutting down 
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 11:55:24 AM
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I have cut down Bridie I have only five left now, but I comprimised with my husband, so he has to comprimise with me and as I am a long standing breeder and that is what I love to do most , I can breed one or two foals a year,provided that I dont keep them all like I have been doing, hence the numbers went up drastically . I have possibly the best stallion in the country (JMO ) and as I dont stand him at public stud , it makes sense for me to use him on my chosen mares. |
   
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Dazzler
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 3:11:43 PM
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| I too had a break from breeding but the old addage use it or lose it applies I think , so all my mares will be covered next time. Ive really missed having foals around this year. |
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Oxara Arabians
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Denmark
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Posted - 15 Jul 2007 : 05:21:24 AM
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I am happy to say, that our mare Krystinah (Monogramm x Kryza/Enrilo) has been scanned in foal to Ecaho 
And our mare MB Kadars Eklypsa (Padrons Kadar/Padron x Anyshia us/Muscat) is in foal to Padrons Must (Padrons Immage x Bint Pustinia/Padron)
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natntaz
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Posted - 15 Jul 2007 : 11:37:50 AM
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| Congratulations beautiful horses (especially the chestnut) |
   
Natalie Pix. Essex. Tariq ibn Radfan and Taroub |
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Honey Monster
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katefox1812
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jul 2007 : 4:29:11 PM
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Update - DA Fiestaa and MB Naomi at Fantasiaa Arabians in Belgium are now tested in foal to H Tobago (as well as MB Fantasiaa- mentioned earlier on this thread). (All by frozen semen, all in foal at the first attempt.)
Fiestaa is tha dam of their international multi-champion stallion MB Caprtizioo. Naomi is a very pretty bay mare by Padrons Kadar, like Oxara's lovely grey mare. (Oxara I see you are line-breeding to Padron as well - should be a lovely foal! And I love your chestnut mare - she's beautiful!)
MB Noaa - a granddaughter of Padrons Kadar - is also due to be bred to Tobago.
Fiestaa, Fantasiaa and Noaa are mother, daughter and granddaughter - quite unusual I think to have three generations bred to the same stallion!
Nancy Lacoste at Fantasiaa is taking a big gamble breeding all her best mares to my boy - I am very grateful to her for giving him this Fantastic opportunity!
The gorgeous PBA mare Simply Irresiztable (winner at the Nationals)is also in foal to Tobago, as well as a stunning big pink-papered Austrian Warmblood.
Lots of mares waiting for scans atm (won't name them yet as I don't want to jinx anything) and about 7 or so more still to be AI'd... (keep watching this space)! |
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jackie k
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Wales
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Posted - 15 Jul 2007 : 6:21:22 PM
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Wow Kate Tobago has been a busy boy - next year will be very interesting - good luck
We are using our own stallion Emenes again this year on our own mares as we are so pleased with his first two foals - one colt and one filly
Roll on 2008 - my god wishing my life away again
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Oxara Arabians
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Denmark
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Posted - 15 Jul 2007 : 9:09:57 PM
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Kate: It will be a very exiting year for you in 2008
DA Fiestaa from Nancy is the mother of the stallion MB Capritzioo by FS Rits/Padrons Psyche... I saw Capri a few years ago at Tulip Cup where he was champion... Fantastic boy, amazing movements...
When I got my Kadar daughter she was bred to Capritzioo and had a lovely chestnut filly...
Granddaughter of DA Fiestaa (now bred to your boy)
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katefox1812
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jul 2007 : 9:56:33 PM
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Oxara - I loooooove that filly! She is simply exquisite - exactly what I would like to buy for Tobago! How old is she now?
I think Nancy is hoping for another Capritzioo from Fiestaa...fingers crossed!
Jackie - yes, it's been a very busy season for Tobago...and next year looks as though it will be even busier, as his 2008 book is rapidly filling up.
Emenes is soooo beautiful - and his babies are equally lovely - you must be very proud of him! |
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emma
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 09:28:51 AM
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Im so jealous im not breeding anything!Although im very tempted to breed from my boy Al Galero ( as yet untested at stud)!
And my anglo mare Naomi Nurha has been doing her best to make it happen! But im tossing and turning at night thinking about it!
It is possible i would sell the resultant foal particularly if it were a colt or a gelding. But i worry that the resultant foal will have such a high arab percenatge it will be viewed unfavourable in the current trend in the showring. It would be 65.5 %.
My anglo bred a super filly last year from the TB stallion Infantry and many have said that if she can produce that well i really should use her. Although part of me thinks i should be riding her but i have to admit i am struggling to ride her and Galero. And as Galero is being shown he has to take priority.
Both potential parents are fantastic ridden horses Galero has numerous Championships and my mare whose ridden career started age 15yrs became res BNC. They suit each other conformationally which obviously is of vital importance. But i have become aware that in the Show Hacks and Riding Horses those with a high percentage of arab are often overlooked.
Any thoughts much appriciated!!??
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jaj
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 09:55:42 AM
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I wouldn't breed if I had to sell the resulting foal, there are far too many on the sales pages as it is. If you have to because your circumstances change then it is one thing, but think if you know you can't keep from offset then not such a good idea imho.
Jen
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emma
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 11:31:28 AM
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No dont worry i know what you mean.
I didnt explain myself too well! I wouldnt purely be breeding to sell. I do have facilities etc here, i just mean that it is a possibility if i have a sensible head on!
For example if it were good enough to be stallion quality i couldnt really keep it as i dont have enough mares to warrant another entire so if there was a suitable person wanting something like that it would make sense to sell, on the other hand if it were a gelding it would need riding and i would rather sell to someone who could give the horse a real job than keep it here and try to juggle riding/ producing several horses at once. Also if it turned out too small for me it would be sensible to sell rather than leave it wasted in the field.
I suppose in a nutshell what im saying is that i wouldnt be breeding in the hope of making a quick buck but if it meant the horse went on to a loving home then that would have to come into consideration, im aware of the market situation and certainly wouldnt be breeding to add to the surplus of unwanted stock.
Ive never sold a horse before and so it certainly wouldnt be something i would undertake lightly.
I am intrigued to know what people think about breeding a high percentage anglo? |
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katefox1812
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 12:34:53 PM
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emma I have a friend who breeds Show Hacks (very successfully - championships at HOYS, RIHS, etc, etc.) and she says that they should not look 'Araby', and yes, even though quite a few have some Arab blood, those that do look too Araby get marked down.
But then some Anglos really don't look very Araby at all, so you might get away with it!
Seems a shame not to use your boy - he's super! |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 12:54:10 PM
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Jen I so agree with you, so many people breed without thinking of the future outcome,a horse can live 30 years plus.
Just breeding on a whim without thinking what will happen (or even caring) in the future is what is making the Arabian world fall apart some top breeders are breeding less foals than the private breeders sometimes. I have read threads on here of people saying they have breed several mares this year, and the people are in rented livery! we all know what happened last year! if folk would just stop and think before breeding on a whim ,what might happen if they cant keep or sell the resulting offspring, perhaps common sense would kick in, ( but I doubt it) |
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emma
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 12:56:53 PM
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Hi Kate
Yes thank you im very proud of my boy!
My neighbours breed show hacks and we were talking just the other day about it and he said the foal would be too high in arab blood.
It is very difficult though as most show ponies and hacks are part breds. And those with pony blood will probably have unrecorded arab blood in there as well. My anglo has 31.10 % arab blood and i always think she looks fairly araby but there are many out there competing alongside her with over 50% and they often look more pony or TB.
I guess the trick is to breed with a highish percentage, so genetically the arab blood is there and then hope and pray that it doesnt show up phenotypically!! How the hell does one manage that i wonder!? I suppose it boils down to luck of the draw!
I am sorely tempted!! |
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emma
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 1:10:58 PM
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Lynda
Just read your reply, i dont think you are directing it at me but i do just want to reiterate that i am not breeding on a whim, i can keep the resultant offspring and certainly have given much thought to the future, my horsey breeding plans/ dreams are something i give more thought to than my work! ( infact most people moan at me that i think about things too much!)
On another note can you tell us which of your mares you are breeding to? A Crimbo daughter is something id love to own and i frequently like horses that trace to those lines, i only wish id seen him competing! |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 1:36:10 PM
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| Emma ,I certainly was 'nt aiming it at you or anyone in particular, just at the general state of things today and how we are seeing more and more horses going to dealers or autions because there are more arabs than there are arab lovers I have bred only one mare this year "Malika", who has given me several lovely foals I have not covered any out side mares either, dispite being approached! if people want to use my stallion they must have a valid reason for doing so. He is not a fashion fade but a horse that will carry precious blood through chosen mares on to the future and will be around a lot longer too |
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LYNDILOU
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nikki
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 2:53:54 PM
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i am bouncing at the moment!
My lovely dear sweet, Bee, has just been scanned in foal to the awesome Rusleem.
I am just soo excited, tralalallala, skip, skip, yay, yay, yay |
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linda
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 3:05:24 PM
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Congratulations Nikki, I just love Rusleem
We have had three colts this year by: Massimo Ibn Mirokan, Ajman Moniscione and WH Justice,
We only have one foal due next year by Psympatic,
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emma
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 3:45:47 PM
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Lynda
Cant you breed more so i can have one of them!?
Malika should have a super foal next year and she looks so well after her rough time. I really like Wasama, lucky Sue for loaning her. If only my filly were older then maybe id be able to use Crimbo!
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LYNDILOU
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emma
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 4:09:35 PM
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| Sure thing! Sad how we wish their lives away, poor girl she is only a yearling! |
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Barabia
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Posted - 16 Jul 2007 : 11:46:52 PM
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Aaaw, big Congratulations to you Nikki (and Bee too of course)!!
I can really understand your excitement.. and would sing along with you if I only knew what melody it is!
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