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Adara_Arabians
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Posted - 29 Mar 2007 :  12:55:45 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Adara_Arabians's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this topic Add Adara_Arabians to your friends list Send Adara_Arabians a Private Message
Can anyone please tell me if they know of any offspring from Bint Naterlie, i belive she foaled 2 grey fillies however i have no names or who they were sired by or dates of birth.

Bint Naterlie, 1991 bay mare out of M C Naterlie. She was shown as youngstock at the Royal welsh also in 1991.

Any information really appreciated.
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Kash
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Posted - 29 Mar 2007 :  1:30:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kash to your friends list Send Kash a Private Message
Hi

I've had a look and found a CR Bint Natalie - could this be her?

If so, I have found one offspring who raced in The Brampton Banded Stakes for purebred Arabs, 4 years and older on 30th July 2006 in Huntingdon (she was 3rd):

Dakota Willow (8) (40) 8 10-3 Mr S Holdsworth 6-1
Sire: Estamera Dam: CR Bint Natalie
Mr & Mrs K D Malpass

She was also mentioned here:
http://arabianlines.com/racing/Paul_Simmons/2005_reports/Wolverhampton_11June.htm

Sorry if you already knew this!


 
Photographs by Emma Maxwell and Peter Grant
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 29 Mar 2007 :  2:56:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Dakota Willow (breeder Mrs P W Jones) also ran at the start of the season at Wolverhampton on 27th May,in the fourthrace of the evening, I was there and saw her run and again at Wolvo on 23 Sept.2006....this is the ARO link for May 27th....http://www.aroracing.co.uk/racing_news/pdf/05_27_06WolverRes.pdf

Also the Racing Advertiser is usually there taking pictures..

Sue

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Barabia
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Posted - 29 Mar 2007 :  9:47:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
CR BINT NATALIE (B D Kabask x MC Natalie by Bru-Bet Seradro)

Progeny:
JABASK CHIMENKA 1996 Mare Grey by ESTAMERA
DAKOTA WILLOW.. 1998 Mare Grey by ESTAMERA
Breeder: MRS PEGI W. JONES

Bia


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Adara_Arabians
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Posted - 30 Mar 2007 :  08:59:33 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Adara_Arabians's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Adara_Arabians to your friends list Send Adara_Arabians a Private Message
Hiya

thanks all, yes this is her. I have just received all my long awaited information. I m just awaiting back my BNA results but i am the owner of Bint Naterlie.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 04 Apr 2007 :  4:19:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Hi Adara, Glad to see Bint Natalie is with you, and that her stock are doing so well, will look out for Dakota Willow racing this time...and maybe have a bet and take some photo's.... Is she in foal for 2007 and if so who to.. Sue

PS. her name has an 'A' not er...and pic's please....

Sue

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halona stud
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  07:49:23 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add halona stud to your friends list Send halona stud a Private Message
Hi Adara,
Could you tell me how you came to have 'Bint Natalie' as it looks like she was owned at one time by 'Mrs Pegi Wyne Jones' who it seems owned 3 arab mares that me (Halona Stud) and Moldequine are now searching identity for - See topics 'Does Anyone recognise these two' and 'History wanted on a Fleabitten pure bred arab'.... Do any of the mares in the photo's look like your mare? Did you buy Bint Natalie from Mrs Jones? Any help would be much appreciated. Does anyone know if the stallion 'Estamera' was owned by Mrs Jones? He is obviously grey, if your mare is bay - or is she now grey? Sorry for all the questions.
Kind regards
Clare
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halona stud
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  08:02:19 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add halona stud to your friends list Send halona stud a Private Message
I have just looked up 'Estamera' on all breed pedigree and it says he was born in 1996, but I know all breeds can be quite often wrong - does anyone know the year he was born? He was mainly grey on both sides of his pedigree, so is quite possibly homozygous grey and therefore all his off-spring would be grey.
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Adara_Arabians
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  2:00:22 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Adara_Arabians's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Adara_Arabians to your friends list Send Adara_Arabians a Private Message
both her foals from him were grey, she is bay and had a bay fily in 2005. She has another foal due in a matter of weeks so excited. I will helo in any way I can.
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Barabia
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  3:01:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Originally posted by halona stud

I have just looked up 'Estamera' on all breed pedigree and it says he was born in 1996, but I know all breeds can be quite often wrong - does anyone know the year he was born? He was mainly grey on both sides of his pedigree, so is quite possibly homozygous grey and therefore all his off-spring would be grey.


He is born 1992 according to AHR database, I've corrected at allbreed.

Progeny for ESTAMERA

9 records found.
Name.......Number.....Foaled.....Gender.....Color.....Dam

JABASK ESTEEME AHSB*27455 1995 Stallion Grey JUST A LEGEND (grey)
NAMIRAH AHSB*27612 1995 Stallion Grey MC NATALIE (grey)
JABASK PERLANA AHSB*28480 1996 Mare Grey KHEMOS LADY (bay)
JABASK CHIMENKA AHSB*30265 1996 Mare Grey CR BINT NATALIE (bay)
JABASK FAHEILAN AHSB*30351 1996 Mare Grey MC LADY MISTERI (bay)
JABASK AMIRA AHSB*30352 1997 Mare Grey MC LADY MISTERI
JABASK EL KHEILA AHSB*30308 1997 Mare Grey JABASK SAKARA (grey)
DAKOTA WILLOW AHSB*30868 1998 Mare Grey CR BINT NATALIE
KADAKA AHSB*31880 1998 Stallion Grey MC LADY MISTERI

Looks like a homozygout to me!
Bia


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nikki
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  4:55:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
Ahh congrats Lauren, i remember when you got her, i thought it was terrible what had happened.

But a happy ending excellant well done!

What happened to the filly she had with you? She'll be able to be fully reg now!

pagey
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  8:02:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Hi Bia, Thanks for the info, I can't find breeding for Jabask Sakara, Grey mare (1983), any chance you could make a check for me...Thanks a lot Sue

Sue

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Barabia
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  9:11:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi Sue. She is born 1990 acc. to the database. Bred by HE SHEIKH MOHAMMED BIN KHALIFA AL THANI, UMM QARN MNMGT CO. LTD. OLD LODGE FARM, DORMANSLAND, SU, U K.

Foal Date 1990
Color Grey
Gender Mare
Sire RAVENHOOD
AHSB*21312 Bay 1986
Dam JABASKS SWEETIE
AHSB*21739 Grey 1986
Dam's Sire GG JABASK+/
AHR*100335 Bay 1973
Studbook Reference Volume 17 Page 185

Only got 1 reg. foal: JABASK EL KHEILA (1997) bred by Pegi.

Bia

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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  9:35:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Thanks a lot Bia, GG Jabask had over 900 foals....regards Sue


Sue
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Barabia
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 :  9:40:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
You're welcome Sue!
Oooweee, 900+...he had some hard work then!

Bia

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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 :  11:51:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
and at $15,000 a time....

Sue
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Sian
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 :  06:29:04 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Sian's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Sian to your friends list Send Sian a Private Message
If any one knows how to post photos on AL I have a great photo of GG Jabask
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halona stud
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 :  08:06:36 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add halona stud to your friends list Send halona stud a Private Message
Send it to me - enquiries@halonasportshorses.co.uk and I will put it up for you.

Clare
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 12 Apr 2007 :  11:43:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
There are already photos on AL and Allbreeds of this horse, I have a nice collection, still afew more and will post another here for you...and you should look at the web page for this horse willleave the link........http://www.arabs-iowa.com/AFH-GGJabask.htm He sired over 900 foals and his stud fee was $15.000...( what a lucky boy).....Sue
GG Jabask.(1973) Bru-Bet Arabians.



Sian, email it to me and I'll post it for you... rosyrider@dsl.pipex.com

Sue

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Adara_Arabians
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Posted - 13 Apr 2007 :  08:30:21 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Adara_Arabians's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Adara_Arabians to your friends list Send Adara_Arabians a Private Message
Hi Nikki

Thanks for your kind words, the foal has now been sold to a close friend of mine, she is beautiful but i will be pressing forward with this to get all registered and paperwork in order.

I have been working closely with Sian for almost 2 years now trying to sort this mess out, and finally we get results. Its very weird becasue no one had heard of them or anything then all of a sudden 4 other horses have popped out the woodwork.

Bint Naterlie is currently in foal to Shambar due in due, i cant wait.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 06 May 2007 :  1:39:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Dakota Willow after the race yesterday at Wolverhampton.
owner Mr & Mrs K D Malpass, Breeder Mrs P W Jones.( There is another official photo on the Racing Advertisers ARO page..get there from the link) Sue


Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 07 May 2007 1:24:03 PM
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 :  5:05:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Bru Bet Seradro ( same pic as the black & white)...

and a Jabask arab has just entered my endurance ride, he's Spun Jabask by MC Mystr Jabask (GG Jabask)... Small world, I'll try and get some pic of him, although we do have an official photographer coming which helps.....

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 19 Jun 2007 7:11:58 PM
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