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rabelrhicks
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 Posted - 25 Feb 2007 : 9:00:18 PM
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Hi
Has anyone used an Isabell Werth Dressage saddle on their arab ? If so - how did they fit their arab and were they comfortable for both the horse & rider ? I believe they are slightly shorter than the normal Wintec dressage saddle due to having such a deep seat ?
Trying to sort a saddle for my young arab and like the look and idea of the Isabell Werth. Have done a little classical riding in distant past, but have read that not everyone suits this style of saddle. So any feedback greatly rec'd.
Thanks Bec
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Fee
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Posted - 25 Feb 2007 : 10:07:57 PM
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Hi Bec,
Sorry can't help you with your saddle  but just wanted to say hi and ask how your girl is doing?
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Pasha
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 09:03:33 AM
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I tried one on Pash but was no way near wide enough - sadly there isn't a dressage saddle out there (that I can find) to accomodate his huge shoulders  |
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ACGODFREY
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 09:28:21 AM
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Yes, I have one. I actually got it for my youngster who is only a medium wide at the moment, but I fully anticipate that he will expand with work and maturity. It fits him well as he has a high wither and needs the quite high panels at the back that this saddle has as he has not really developed a top line yet. It also fits my 11 year old. He is a more typical arab shape and I use the extra wide gullet on him. His other saddle is a thorowgood griffin cob. One thing I have noticed is that Wintec saddles measure quite big so I have a 16.5" one where as my other saddles are 17". Hope this helps.
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Arachnid
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 10:16:17 AM
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Let me know how you get on. I tried an ordinary Wintec dressage saddle on my extra wide fitting gelding with the extra wide gullet, but it wasnt really wide enough and didnt have very much 'give' in it. The Isabelle Werth ones are superior models though so you might have better luck  |
   
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erica giles
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 10:38:33 AM
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| I have the leather Isabell Werth dressage and it is fab and fits her very well. But I think I will be needing the extra wide gullet though. They are beautifully comfortable saddles. I also have the leather bates general purpose that also is a really comfortable. |
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Eeyore
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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 10:58:38 AM
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| The thoroughbred that I am having classical dressage lessons on at the moment has one of these saddles. I find it very comfy to ride in and it fits the TB well. I don't know how it would fit on an arab though. |
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erica giles
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 11:08:40 AM
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| As I said mine fits my Arab beautifully and she is very short coupled |
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rabelrhicks
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England
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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 8:29:38 PM
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Hi
Thanks for the replies,
Fee - not given up on treeless (love the the Londoner) but time is not right for us. Although Momo is wide she has a high wither and is not very muscled up through her back - physically she is still quite inmature, plus the fact I need to lose a few stone (good incentive) - treeless is not a good combination for us at the moment. But we are both fine she has not been worked for a few months to give her time to develop and I am planning a few months of long reining and out in hand to traffic proof and develop some muscle before riding again. (& lose weight - me !). Love reading about Po on here.
Anne - liked what you said about yours having a high wither but being med/wide - this is the problem I am having with Momo - as she is only rising 4 I know here shape is going to change alot as she develops and with work - hence the changeable gullet option. How old is your youngster ? I have tried the normal Wintec dressage in 17 and it was too big, she needs 16.5 and I need the 17, but will go with what she needs - was hoping that the extra deep seat will make up for the half inch I lose ? So would you recommend I go for the 16.5 ? She was backed in a WH 16.5 and I have coped ok riding in that (although only waking with a little trot), presume Isabell Werth will be more comforatable ?
Thanks everyone for your input, as I said not planning to ride for a few months but want to get saddle etc sorted while I have time to look around etc.
Bec
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ACGODFREY
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 : 09:22:24 AM
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Hi Bec,
My boy will be 4 in May, so probably the same age as yours. I do think the Wintecs are fairly generous. I don't really have too much of a problem fitting the backside in the 16.5", it is more that I am 5'8", but because the saddle is based on classical lines and I ride quite long anyway, I don't have any problems with my knees sitting over the front of the saddle (which I do with most other saddles) I originally tried the wintec vsd for him, but it tipped back too much on him as the back panels are quite flat. My local saddler was really good and let me have a few synthetics on trial. Maybe ask yours if they will do the same?
Good luck, let us know how you get on. Anne |
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polly
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 : 10:34:15 AM
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| Hi, Ive just nipped downstairs to ask Sharon ( Pro Rider/Instructor) as she has one of these, and she said an Arab would need the wide or xwide, and may need a riser pad to lift the front, but other than that she thinks they are fab.She rides 4 of our Arabs here in it , between 14hh-15.3hh, she is 5'10. and knows of other Arabs , on other yards in them . They allow for shoulder freedom and sit nicely. Hope it helps. |
   
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Moira
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 8:27:20 PM
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| I have an Isabell and it's fantastic. Zak is not a typical Arab shape though and takes a medium wide gullet. I have also used it on my ISH with an extra wide gullet in it. It is quite a big saddle so you probably would be OK in a 16.5". Mine is a 17" (43cm) and I'm a size 16 in clothes and I feel totally comfortable & secure in it. |
  
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suneanarab
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Mar 2007 : 2:47:59 PM
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| i don't have the isobell but do have the dressage 2000 with the cair. it fits odin really well and he's about as wide as a bus! i have tried other wintecs on him that we both hated, but we both love this one. i went for it after riding in one while doing classical training. julia uses this saddle on her andalusians. i have also used the 2000 on loads of other horses that i train and to great comfort all round. |
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rabelrhicks
Bronze Member
England
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Posted - 04 Mar 2007 : 8:29:10 PM
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Hi
Thanks for all your replys, think I will try to get a 16.5 Isabell Werth dressage - I like the idea of the panels at the back as although Momo is wide she has not really muscled up through her back yet. If necessary will look into the riser pad - thanks for advice. Now I need to see if I can be lucky and pick one up second hand ! If I have to go new - would you recommend cair or flock ?
Anne - Momo will be 4 in May - it sounds like ours are similar in the physical development - have you done much with your boy ?
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ACGODFREY
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Mar 2007 : 10:25:34 AM
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Hi Bec,
My boy was backed in August/September and we were able to walk, trot and do a little canter in the school, albeit without much steering. He went on one hack with a friend but it was a little too much for him (mental overload ) so that was that. He has been turned away since October and just recently I have started to take him for walks in hand and also lunge him. He seems to remember everything but I will spend another month or so working in hand before I even attempt to get on again. We take things slowly but I am in no hurry to do too much as I already have one to ride so am not missing out on anything. I am enjoying the process and am really pleased with him. How about you?
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rabelrhicks
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England
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Posted - 05 Mar 2007 : 9:08:41 PM
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Hi Anne
I bought Momo last summer and she had just been backed (was looking for a bombproof potential ridden arab show horse !) Did lots of walking out in hand and rode once/twice a week in walk (alittle trot). Really just concerntrated on bonding and traffic proofing. She is very green but a good girl (not fizzy) we hacked out alone (early in morning when very little traffic). Mentally she was fantastic, but I felt physcially she needed to mature more & still does.
Like you I stopped in October and have just started (weather permitting). Been out a few times in hand (back to the traffic proofing, great with cars & vans but need to see alot more big things - tractors etc. Also started lunging, but it is very wet so that's on hold until a bit drier.
Hoping to start riding again about easter and looking forward to some lazy summer evening rides. I am desperate to ride again as my old arab mare has retired, but like you will take it slowly with Momo.
It would be nice to hear how you and your boy progress - maybe compare notes !
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B and T Rascal
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 6:34:35 PM
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Hi,
I have a Wintec Pro, which is not as deep seated as the Isabel but fits my arab a treat. It also fits my very wide shouldered Appaloosa with the white gullet plate.
Not being so deep seated you have more room to get comphy, if you know what I mean. Both the Pro and Isabel are on the same tree. The other dressage saddle is on the 500 tree, shorter in the way it fits round the horse - so i've found anyway. I couldn't get on with it, felt very insecure.
Hope this helps. |
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Jenni5
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 11:06:20 PM
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Now that tanni has come back we are trying to get a saddle for him, as the one we have for him is far too wide as he has thinned down quite a bit.
Tried Rossi's saddle on him, n still too wide, then we tried a wintec dressage saddle on him and it fitted perfectly.
Though it isn't the best saddle for re-building a horse.
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erica giles
Gold Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Jun 2007 : 2:11:02 PM
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| I have one for my mare. However I have just had it fitted with an extra wide gullet. If she muscles up any more it wont fit. But they are very comfy and she always goes well in it. |
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Nicky F
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England
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Posted - 25 Jun 2007 : 5:05:39 PM
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| Have to say the Isabell Werth is very comfortable, my daughter has one for her Irish mare which I tried - love the suede seat and knee rolls! |
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