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Katieg
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Nov 2003 : 10:28:19 AM
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Hello all
I have just been reccomended this site from another forum I use as I am looking to buy a horse next year and really want an Arab. I'll be honest in that I have little experience with the breed and have never owned an Arab before. I have ridden and cared for an Arab x ID though and found him to be the most wonderful horse on the ground and to ride.
I'm about 12-13 stone so concerned that I amy be to heavy for a pure bred arab, as Crabbet arabs are the stockier type I thought I would be best to go for one of these? At 15.2 or above?
Does anyone know the best place to get one? Broken and ready to go.
Any advise is appriciated and welcome as I don't want to make a mistake.
Thankyou
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joycemelvin
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Serin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Nov 2003 : 2:27:02 PM
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The question about being " Too Heavy " is one that many people ask ..... only your horse can answer that and the ailments that would come after , at the end of the day its how you ride and balance etc that is important not what the evil scales tell you ! I have a Crabbet mare she would tolerate that weight but she I wouldnt want her to carry any more than 11 stone max , as she wouldnt perform to her best .Yet my Anglo wouldnt bother if the balance was ok !!( although i put on 2 stone after being ill last year and felt very aware that i was too heavy !( trying to shift ) i have been seen jogging behind my girls while long reining !! horses for courses as they say !!
Can i ask Katie , why an Arab as you have said you havent had much to do with them before ? |
Edited by - Serin on 02 Dec 2003 7:04:42 PM |
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pat ww
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Nov 2003 : 2:28:58 PM
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Your weight is probably not a problem. It depends on your height and how it is distributed, Arabs are good weight carriers.
My son is 6ft 4 and like a bean pole at 12 - 13 stone. Yet because he rides motorbikes and is supple, our pure breds have never had a problem with him, more likely with me who is shorter, rounder and far less supple.
Arabs are naturally well balanced, and our Crabbet mare carried a 14 stone novice along the road between fields at a walk I had to jog to keep up with. She had only been backed bareback in the field, and was bareback on the road, she is only 14.2. Temperament wise Crabbet should give you a good start, they are still today prominent among all ridden class winners.
Where are you based? I am sure you will get loads of invites to see peoples horses. |
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Kaz
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Nov 2003 : 9:00:54 PM
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Just a thought - but at FEI level in endurance rider plus saddle has to weigh 75kg which is close to 12st - most blokes and alot of women I know on the circiut weigh much more than this and successfully complete 100 milers on pure-breds and some are tiny!! Bond (my other half weighs 13st) rides on a saddle weighing about 5kg and has ridden his mare up to 40 miles - 15hh crabbet, well built but I've seen chunkier and there was never any difference in her HR at the end than when I have ridden her - 9st. He also rides a 15.1 Egyptian/Old English gelding - built like a brick **** house and my gelding who is a mixture of all 15.1 and much finer boned. Weight doesn't seem to matter so long as the rider rides "lightly" and balanced... Kaz - good luck with your search - there was a substantial looking gelding on the sales list on this website by Sheikh al Kuran - have a look! |
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Katieg
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Dec 2003 : 5:24:03 PM
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Thanks all
In response to Serin I have always loved Arabs - from a very young age when my friends Aunt kept lots of them to today. They are so beautiful and intelligent. I have not had much to do with them as I haven't seen many around! (By that I mean close up - I have been to shows and read about them) There was one at my old yard that was gorgeous and so good but I did not really know the owner and due to confidence issues - then not now - didn't approach her.
I haven't ever picked the horses I owned - they picked me and I have never actively looked to go and buy before, I just fell into it - both times!!
This time next year I will be in a position to pick and I want to realise my childhood dream - but if thats not realistic I won't do it - hence the need for advice well in advance! |
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Katieg
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Dec 2003 : 5:26:23 PM
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In responce to Pat ww I am in Berkshire (Reading/wokingham/bracknell way)
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Wyllow
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Posted - 02 Dec 2003 : 5:51:53 PM
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Hi Katie
Welcome along to a great place!
I know exactly what you mean about the childhood dream !
It's pretty irational with me too, and I can't even remember how long I've wanted and Arab...but I do recall starting to save my pennies when I was ten in a Post Office Account!
I did have a beautiful part Arab a few years ago, but I had him as a VERY mature old gentleman and our time together was short.
Had I not since then been indulging my daughters with ponies...although I have a boy on loan with me at the moment who is a very big 14.2hh and is really more horsey than ponyish ~ I'd be on the hunt for a grey Arab mare of Crabbet breeding, preferably no younger than 8 and no older than 12...but would reconsider for the "right one".
In fact, I'm wondering why I don't ~ if I have serious doubts about the suitability of this little chap for my daughter anyway ~ look for that dream horse now...and let my daughter share her! After all, another year and she'll probably be bigger than me!!!(And many Arabs are not that much taller than this boy I have now.)
I wish you luck with your search for "The One" for you, Katie...and may whoever you find...or whoever finds you, bring you years of happiness!
~Wyllow~
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Serin
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Posted - 02 Dec 2003 : 7:13:07 PM
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My Daughter begged me for a white unicorn when she was 7 and i got her a roly poly podgy pony which she couldnt get on with !! so 2 years later i found her a white unicorn ( Princess , my pure Crabbet mare ) she is the most loving a softest pony you could meet ...... The whispers at Pony Club and local shows were incredable ( why ever has she got a wild Arab for her daughter !! )but watching my once nervous daughter gallop across the Beach on her own at 10 tells me i did the right thing !! We all make dreams to follow ......... |
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Wyllow
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Posted - 02 Dec 2003 : 7:51:05 PM
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Ah, now this is why I'm beginning to think I should just "go for it"!
I don't know if my daughters or I for that matter, will ever be completely happy with less...and my youngest is already a pretty capable 11 year old...who can handle my speed~freak Welsh mare well enough!
To watch her break into a gallop from standstill is a sight to behold and seeing as even that doesn't unseat my "little one"...
Oh, let them all talk!
I've seen some pretty evil "children's ponies" and some beautifully mannered "Wild Arabs" !
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kizzy
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Scotland
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Posted - 02 Dec 2003 : 8:05:14 PM
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i own my first arab, and originally i did pony club on her and thye weren't to pleased. everyone thought at first she was and arab so she must be mad, then we started winning everything, and some the mums who had splashed out thousands for their daughters grade A showjumpers that were too much for them got jealous, so i left! if you buy and arab i can gaurantee you will never look back, they are so proud, elegant, kind, and loyal, yet fast and powerful! good luck, i hope you find your perfect arab. |
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georgiauk
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Posted - 02 Dec 2003 : 8:55:14 PM
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I've had riders on my 15hh 7/8th gelding as young as 13 years old, he was ridden to a 4th place and this was only the 2nd time she had sat on him! It was a busy show ground with not much space to work in, we even had one older (!) lady falling off in front of us and the wee girl coped amazingly well. Last year I had a 14 year old rider who won the riding class at our local show out of 17 more mature riders again she had only hacked him out once before. My OH who is not terribly horsy copes very well with my little pure bred mare who is extremely nosey while being led, we brought them in from the field and encountered the railway crossing barriers as they were about to come down, she turned full circle to watch, but never gave any indication she would run or spook. Arabs, 2nd to none for character and temperament (IMO)
georgiauk@onetel.net.uk
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Edited by - georgiauk on 02 Dec 2003 8:56:19 PM |
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