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blissy
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Posted - 19 Jun 2006 :  9:01:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blissy to your friends list Send blissy a Private Message
Hi Jen,

I hope to do a small show (in hand) this year, not sure were and when though as I am a complete novice, but heh, nothing ventured nothing gained



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jaj
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Posted - 19 Jun 2006 :  9:47:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
How exciting! You are braver than me, I think I would die of fear... Do let us know if and when you decide to show and we can come along and cheer you on.

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szedlisa
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 :  4:52:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add szedlisa to your friends list Send szedlisa a Private Message
Originally posted by jaj

Am just leafing through Joanna Maxwell Spanish Arabian Horse Families and see that next to entry for Galero says 'stolen 82'!. Wonder what the story was there?
Jen



Here's the story on Galero:
During February and March, 1982, Galero settled eight mares at Mazarrazin. Unfortunately, the breeding season was cut short and Galero’s spectacular career as a sire ended suddenly with his disappearance during the evening of March 28, 1982.
The farm staff of the respected and admired Yeguada Mazzarazin finished their nightly rounds, and retired for the evening. Security at the Yeguada was tight – the success of the various agricultural enterprises engendered certain risks in the south of Europe, and though not fearful, the staff was aware of the weight of their responsibilities.
As the early dawn light crept into the courtyard of the Yeguada, the first stirrings of the awakening staff were frozen by the news – the stables housing the premier stallion Galero and two junior stallions were empty. The sound of galloping hooves was heard. One of the younger sons had escaped and returned in a lather, a piece of broken halter still hanging from his head.
The alarm was sounded.
The future of the Spanish Arabians was forever altered.
Fields, roads and nearby farms were canvassed to no avail. The Guardia Civil , an excellent police force charged with patrolling the rural portions of Spain, were called. Panel trucks and vans capable of transporting horses were halted and searched. Every conceivable avenue was inspected and put under surveillance; the slaughterhouses processing horsemeat for shipment to France were notified with a description of the handsome Galero and his indentification mark – the YM brand of the Military State Stud of Spain.
The frontiers and borders were put on alert; the news of the disappearance spread like a shock wave across Spain. Everyone plunged into a concerted effort to find Galero quickly.
That the initial disappearance left no trace was a deep surprise to the searchers. That despite the best efforts of the police, the military investigators and the civilians, no clues as to the present whereabouts of the beautiful and remarkable stallion was simply incredible.
Galero belonged to the people of Spain, and as the frustration of the search continued, the principle of honor began to spur the investigators anew.
Facilities of all breeds were instructed to post watchers for the smallest clue, any indications that Galero might yet be found. Each passing day had a double edge; renewed expectations were met with shattering disappointment.
As the weeks grew into months, the horse fraternity of Spain assumed an attitude of stunned disbelief that such a noticeably beautiful Arabian stallion carrying the brand of the Military could remain undetected in all of Spain.
The speculation that provided the desperate hope of the continued search now bore down ominously on the disheartened: was it possible that the search had become too intense? Was the price of detection so great that the only alternative now facing the thieves was the quiet destruction of this priceless treasure?
As the years have passed, waning hope began to dim and, finally, flickered out." excerpt taken from article by Ralph Joly and posted at the SAHS site: http://www.spanisharabianhorsesociety.org/SpHist_Galero.html

Enjoy ~ Lisa

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szedlisa
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 :  5:10:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add szedlisa to your friends list Send szedlisa a Private Message
Originally posted by barbara.gregory

...My Spanish mare has never had a straight Spanish foal, she was mated to Arabian Beauty but reabsorbed and as he had gone back to Spain I couldn't repeat the mating. I always hoped he would come back again but sadly he died in that terrible stable fire. A grest loss.
Barbara


Barabara,
This update and correction might make you feel better about the loss of Arabian Beauty. Yes the Yeguada Complutum had that terrible fire in which they did lose some horses , however Arabian Beauty was not one of those destroyed by fire. In fact he had had a terrible bout of Colic which resisted all vet care and was humanely put down on the 1 January 2003.
Just thought that bit of information might help. There is so worse "scenario" than the thought of a horse in a fire as they will auomatically want to go back into their 'safe' place, like their own stall.

Lisa

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jaj
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 :  7:15:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
Hello Szedlisa, welcome to Alines and thank you very much for your input into my Spanish enquiry thread. So sad about Galero, Arabian Beauty and the horses that did die in the fire, but thank you for enlightening us about their fate, sad though they may be.

Jen




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szedlisa
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 :  8:11:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add szedlisa to your friends list Send szedlisa a Private Message
Thanks Jen!
I have been looking for a forum in english for some time now which is on the european side of the ocean. I have been breeding spanish arabians for years in Spain and a ten year stint in the states. Did a lot of showing when younger and one of my best mares resided for several years with the Maxwells while they were clearing her of piro for export to the states. They showed her as well to several championships in Belgium and Holland and two daughters and a son are still in the UK. This is a terrific site! Am I thrilled to find it. If you all have any questions on the Spanish, I am pretty good on answers <grin>
Lisa

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jaj
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 :  8:23:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
Lisa, I think you will be bombarded by the Spanish fans! Do tell us more about your Spanish mare that resided with the Maxwells? and who are the two daughters and one son that are still here? Lots more questions to follow I'm sure

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szedlisa
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  04:01:24 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add szedlisa to your friends list Send szedlisa a Private Message
Jen, Thanks for the welcome. I think I have figured out how to post photos. We shall see.

SZED Pajarilla had two filles in the UK:

1) Pajarita by Ghadames who has had two sons by MALEIK EL KHEIL (sound familiar?) PALASTINE and PERZJA. Another colt PARADOR by Cala D'Or all bred by Maxwell. One more colt ALKAZAAR by Altruista and a filly JUSTINA CARITAS by SON OF CROWNS both bred by a MR ANTHONY HUGH BOYNTON WOOD. Of that bunch one stallion was exported to France - Perzja.

2) PALMERA by MALEIK EL KHEIL is dam of RAMMAAN by EL KHERON and bred by a MRS W.J. CARR. Her second colt was ESTAMERA by IBN ESTASHA and bred by a MRS MAVIS MACPHERSON. ESTAMERA has bred on with 9 get all bred (except one) by a MRS PEGI W JONES. She managed to get 6 mares and 2 stallions while the remaining colt was bred by a MISS MOLLIE E. OSBORNE. Mrs. Pegi Jones appears to be a breeder and carries the prefix Jabask in front of all her horses' names. Her breeding program appears to be based on Bask and Khemosabi breeding.

I would love to be able to trace some of these descendants down and see what they are doing. Here is SZED PAJARILLA foundation mare of what exists in the UK.



Her sire PEPETE ((Habiente by Gandhy/Veranda X Oklaoma by Barquillo/Veranda)



Her dam JARILLA (Figuroso by Tabal/Bahia II X Arilla by Malvito/Kayan)



And her maternal grandsire: Figuroso (Tabal x Bahia II)



This was a very strong foundation for my breeding program. And I have been very pleased as to how it has developed through the years.
Lisa

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szedlisa
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  04:05:44 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add szedlisa to your friends list Send szedlisa a Private Message
Hmmmm. Well it looks as if I have to go back to school again on the pics. I did a copy and post inbetween the brakets and they all run between 20 and 40 KBs.

Puzzled...
Lisa

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szedlisa
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  04:31:27 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add szedlisa to your friends list Send szedlisa a Private Message
Tomorrow looks like a sleep-in morning for me. Been up all night trying to work this out but I think I have it....We'll see how long it lasts.
gg's will get fed early. I'm off for some zzzzzz's

~ Lisa

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bexr
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 :  7:55:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bexr to your friends list Send bexr a Private Message
we have alot of spanish related horses. we owned bint jacio who we bought from rosthwaite.( dam of jalisco) and have a daughter of hers with a fab top line. we also have a procyon daughter who is in foal to psyche image. she has a lovely daughter by om el azadik.there is plenty of spanish blood out there maybe we are just not shouting about it loud enough.

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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 :  9:49:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message
Hi Lisa

Now you have jogged my memory I remember that the stallion barn was OK. Still a sad loss and I think he would have suited my mare very well. I need to find an affordable straight Spanish stallion who would suit my mare. She was bred by the Maxwell's and I bought her as a yearling.

Regards

Barbara

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jaj
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 :  10:58:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
Lisa, I am so sorry I meant to comment on how beautiful the horses were in the pictures that you posted. The thread went out of sight and I completely forgot. I especially love the mares Szed Pajarilla and Jarilla, wow they are lovely! How long ago were the pictures taken?

Jen




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egzotyka
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 :  8:21:29 PM  Show Profile  Click to see egzotyka's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add egzotyka to your friends list Send egzotyka a Private Message
Sorry for late reply-i must of lost track with this thread- My mare(loan mare) that is sired by BAMBOOKI is as said DF MUSETTE Bred by Lynda Free out of MINETTE

I would love to see the pics of BAMBOOKI that have been mentioned, sound lovely



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jaj
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  10:08:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
I've just taken at look at the sales pages on here and see that Gerald Watson is selling quite a number of horses. All I can say is WOW!

Jen




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beau
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  11:49:04 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add beau to your friends list Send beau a Private Message
I have a pic of Bambooki taken at a show 1988 but not sure how to get it on here, he was lovely,

so i am confused am i right in thinking now that Bambooki was not straight spanish?

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Pauline
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Jodie

If you want to email it to me i can put it on for you

email pauline_higgs@hotmail.com

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jaj
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  1:13:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
Jodie, I believe Bambooki was 7/8 Spanish. Lynda will know precisely. I've got his pedigree in front of me and trying to work out which of the horses isn't Spanish! Could it be Aramus? Only guessing though, sure someone will know.

Jen




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egzotyka
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  6:51:30 PM  Show Profile  Click to see egzotyka's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add egzotyka to your friends list Send egzotyka a Private Message
Would love to see the Pic of him



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jaj
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  7:05:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
I will try and scan the picture of him that Lynda gave me recently when I get a moment .

jen




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egzotyka
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Posted - 18 Nov 2006 :  11:21:22 PM  Show Profile  Click to see egzotyka's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add egzotyka to your friends list Send egzotyka a Private Message
look forward to see the pic...Thanks again



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beau
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 :  11:04:12 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add beau to your friends list Send beau a Private Message
7/8 spanish to complicated for me to work out what beau could poss be think he got a bit of everything thrown in for good measure lol, will dig out pic and e/mail thanx Pauline.

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cheryl138
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 :  12:00:23 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cheryl138 to your friends list Send cheryl138 a Private Message
Oh, what a lovely thread! I have a straight spanish gelding, bred by gerald watson himself! My Boy's called Caballo de fuego (Or khabire at home!), he was bred in 1996, sire Don Diego, damn I can't quite rememebr (written down somehwere is his full tree, I'll dig it out), but definitely had the word 'castilla' in her name. Don diego goes back to Galero I think. He's wondeful, only little at 14.1, but wonderfully laid back, and with a fab chest, neck and topline, We're competing novice dressage, and about to go into our first graded season of endurance - wich so far he has lapped up - laid back nature definitely helps heart rates! I'd have another spanish in a second, and anything even vaguely related to him, he's affectionate, fun, hard as nails and with a heart of fire, but not the slightest bit 'dippy', just intelligent and alert.
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szedlisa
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Posted - 12 Jan 2007 :  7:24:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add szedlisa to your friends list Send szedlisa a Private Message
Cheryl,

Aren't you the lucky one. Don Diego bred by Diego Mendez Moreno , Yeguada Aldara, in Spain had been bought en utero and was slated to be exported to the USA. As you may recall, the states had a really strigent ruling on testing for equine piraplasmosis at that time. Getting the medications in Spain was nigh well impossible and many of us had to literally smuggle them in from places like the UK. It didn't look as if Don Diego was going to come up "clean". It was a querk of the testing process used in those years by Iowh State University which handled the testing for Piro, that if a horse had anitbodies to piro , it would test positive and subsequently not be allowed entry to the USA - given 3 days to disappear / be returned / or it would be destroyed. The American owners did not want that to happen ( nor did his breeder who was very proud of Don Dirgo). As fate would have it, Gerald Watson stepped in and offerred to buy the horse. Lucky for the horse, Lucky for the Watsons and very fortunate for the Spanish being bred in England!!
You may already have Send Court Spanish Arabians new site but I have linked it to their stud name as it took me positively ages to find it.

Their mare Estepa has always been one of my very favorite mares!
Would love to see a pic of your boy if possible...

Lisa

another try: http://www.spanish-arabians.co.uk/Htm/main.htm

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jaj
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Posted - 12 Jan 2007 :  7:29:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message
I would second that Cheryl, love to see a photograph of your horse, he sounds like a splendid chap.

Lisa I tried the Send Court link but it wouldn't work unfortunately. I will come back and try it again later .

Jen




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