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brack369
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Posted - 24 Nov 2014 :  1:34:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add brack369 to your friends list Send brack369 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sadly not an arab, but hoping you knowledgable people maybe able to shed some light. I'm riding a friends horse Welsh x TB and by all accounts he can be a bit of a thug. When he is good he is fab when he is bad he's an utter terror!! These past couple of weeks have been a bit of a nightmare riding him, he's so charged up we will be walking along and he will just start bucking and leaping. He's up to date with back, saddle, teeth checks, I was just wondering if there is something in the grass or not in the grass at this time of year that causes them to hot up. He's just so full of energy I don't know whether it is the cold weather and I should perhaps ride in an exercise sheet or if I should look at some sort of calming supplement eg magnesium. Any thoughts ???

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Posted - 24 Nov 2014 :  6:01:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It has been mild so could be a flush of grass, what else is he fed?

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Ari
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Posted - 24 Nov 2014 :  7:21:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bucking and leaping is a tad beyond high energy. I would be thinking something he's eating that has molasses in like chop or course mix.
I have tried magnesium supplements on my lad who gets a bit spooky on spring grass but no effect. I have found Brewers Yeast helps as it settles the digestion at times of change and can only do good but horses either love it or hate the taste.
Is he on rich haylage? As that can be high energy.
Only advice I can give is maximum turnout and minimum feed of non heating nuts.

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brack369
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Posted - 25 Nov 2014 :  5:57:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brack369 to your friends list Send brack369 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thankyou ari and pinkvboots for your replies. He is fed pure feeds, apparently none of it is molassed. I've contacted Alex Gingell at hack up to mix me up a magic potion #128521; he does bespoke supplements so going to give that a go. Hope it works because I'm beginning to feel nervous about riding him

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Callisto
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Posted - 25 Nov 2014 :  8:47:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had a very exciting ride on my welsh x tb pony today - suffice to say we stopped all the traffic through the middle of our village... I was leading Lily and luckily she behaved herself impeccably, otherwise it could have been very messy! Put it this way, he's been on Allen and Page's Calm & Condition (no molasses), 24 hour turnout (plenty of grass, as it's their winter turnout, so been rested all summer), and he won't be getting any more Calm and Condition until he learns to behave....
I think I'm telling you that it could be him rather than his feed, but they definitely don't need over feeding. I have to admit that I did decide that it might have been an idea to put my body protector on (luckily didn't need it), but also ended up with a huge grin on my face because he was so funny... I've used Pure feeds in the past, and there shouldn't be anything in there that would cause him to blow his top.

Would like to add that he is also a bit of a thug, and bucking and leaping is very much his thing (he is amazingly acrobatic in the field, full Chinese flying horse/rodeo bucking, and has used these moves on his riders). I grew up on a pony who loved to buck, so he never gets his head down with me, but when my cousin rides him she puts a daisy rein on him - would this help you?

He is also a lot worse when he gets hot and sweaty - a bib clip helped with this.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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Edited by - Callisto on 25 Nov 2014 8:53:22 PM
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 26 Nov 2014 :  1:31:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shouldnt think its his feed then, does he get turnout for most of the day and how often is he ridden? I would maybe lunge him for a bit before getting on hopefully most of the bucking will be done on the lunge then

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