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zelus
Bronze Member
 England
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 Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 05:38:26 AM
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I would like to ask the members on this site a simple question,
Are you a member of the AHS? If not why not.( keep it clean...lol.)
Many thanks Kathryn Oldroyd
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moatside
Platinum Member
England
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debs
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
3218 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 07:49:51 AM
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No although I think I may have to join to do some ridden classes, think owner AND rider has to be member for the RASS classes!
I have had an Arab for over 20 years and had never felt it necessary to join. Although at one point I many years ago I did get the membership that entitled you to have the magazine :) |
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Louise Maryon
Silver Member
270 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 07:58:36 AM
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I think £25 membership is about the same as most other societies?
BRONZE MEMBERSHIP
Members benefits -
Handle Horses in Classes affiliated to ECAHO
Ride Horses in Horse of the Year Show Qualifying classes, or at The Horse of the Year show final.
Two AHS Magazines per year
Three day pass to the National Show
Available to Judges, Handlers, Riders, Subscribers and Juniors up to 16 years of age
New Junior Members receive the first year's membership for just £10
Individual Membership £25 or £22 if paid by Direct Debit
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kathleen
Platinum Member
England
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Nuttyneddy
New Member
United Kingdom
13 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 09:27:22 AM
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My husband and I are members, although we do not either breed or show (at the moment). We are Gold members though, for the insurance. We also had to register our two boys when we bought them, and we had to join to do this.
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barbara.gregory
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 09:40:26 AM
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Yes I am as I breed occasionally. I also think it is important to keep the AHS going as we need it for registrations, imports/exports (although I realise the vast majority of Arab owners don't need this service), should your horse qualify for any international shows/ events it will need to be registered.
It is also very important for a central place for DNA/parentage testing and has an active welfare department.
I am sure there are other things they do that I haver omitted and, of course, I love the magazine even if only twice a year.
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zelus
Bronze Member
England
137 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 10:17:26 AM
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Thank you Barbara a lovely positive post. So £25 is to much for supporting the ARAB HORSE two magazines and the ability to show in affiliated classes including the new RASS? As arab owners we need to support the society, please can people reconsider being members of the AHS even if you don't show or breed and start thinking 'what can I do for the society' rather than 'the society doesn't do anything for me' Just a thought |
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Misshana
Silver Member
England
449 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 10:52:43 AM
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| I was a member and attended the main show for many years until 2002 when I attended the Show at Malvern. I was treat despicably by the stable management team (my stable was allocated to a 'name' who didn't remove their horse at the correct time to allow mine (a stallion) to be stabled in the main block. He had travelled over 4 hours in trailer, they still hadn't vacated by the evening and I had to put my horse into a temporary until they finally vacated. I was told to go speak to the person myself and tell them to remove their horse. I'm not putting full details on here. The rules say you have to vacate by certain time and if I had tried to remain I would have been kicked out. One rule for them and another for the rest of us. I have never joined since or attended the main show. At that time also the insurance only covered AHS events as I understood it so joining BHS was a better prospect. |
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zelus
Bronze Member
England
137 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 10:59:37 AM
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| Sorry to hear you were spoken to badly, but that was 12 years ago thing have changed a bit since then, having a membership for the insurance is all well and good for the BHS ( im a member and reg instructor) but what about the breed we all love and cherish????? |
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saraht
Silver Member
England
414 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 11:41:18 AM
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| I used to be a member, no longer -I have found the society to be very heavily focused on showing and purebreds and not much thought given to part breds/Anglos - seem to be an after thought. From what I gather you have to have a gold membership to breed and then have to pay (much more than other societies) to register. Communication used to be poor - The website is (at least when I last looked) somewhat bitty and hard to navigate. I never had a response as to why the cost of a replacement passport is three and a half times the cost of a new passport. They also insist on sending me a mares return form each year even though I have told them that she is retired for the last three years. I still feel that the society should be looking at what it could do to attract new or lapsed members rather than rely on peoples love of the breed. While I appreciate it would be impossible to please everyone if there is a falling membership surely that points towards not providing what people want? |
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zelus
Bronze Member
England
137 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 11:47:11 AM
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| Thank you Saraht more should be done all round. The points you highlighted must be addressed and I'm a big believer in revolution from within which means being a active member in a breed which I adore. |
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moatside
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 11:49:13 AM
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| It is some years since I was last a paid up member and it would appear that there is now a "tiered" membership and yes basic membership is now in line with other breed societies but why is there a need for this system? |
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saraht
Silver Member
England
414 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 12:21:02 PM
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From what I understand - and I am happy to be corrected - there are no voting rights with the bronze(£25) membership you would have to have at least a silver membership. I don't understand why - does it cost the society to have voting members?
What a good question Zelus much like the AL of old! |
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zelus
Bronze Member
England
137 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 12:49:58 PM
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| It costs to write print send and count the votes, would you want voting rights? would it make you more of a active member if you could vote? |
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Cinnypony
Gold Member
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 1:33:13 PM
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I have not been, nor ever have been a member.
If I have to join to register Cinny's foal when it comes along, I will do so and just for that year.
I think the AHS is all about showing, which is missing out on a large sector of the arab population, who do endurance or any other performance discipline. |
    
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zelus
Bronze Member
England
137 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 1:52:30 PM
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| So your saying that the AHS is just bothered about showing? The national show had several dressage classes they were very supported also they have show jumping classes ( not so well supported but still supported) there were in hand classes for sports horses. The BAC holds dressage classes which run along side the showing classes. Is there anything else that you would like to entice you into becoming a member? |
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Louise Maryon
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glo
Gold Member
England
1297 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 6:23:00 PM
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I am not a member, but have been in the past, when I was breeding pure Arabs, but I have had a lot of contact and help from the AHS recently so much that they now know me when I call! (Not that lady again)
I am now breeding again and will probably become a member next year, there help and patience can't be faulted, |
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Ari
Platinum Member
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 7:25:08 PM
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I am not a member as I don't breed or show. Have to say they were very helpfully when I transferred ownership of my gelding as I didn't have the registration certificate but they contacted the breeder for me and all sorted very quickly. Cost well over £113 for a replacement and the passport change, which I don't begrudge as they do support the breed and records are valuable. What does concern me is the cost of doing the right thing in keeping passports up to date especially for a gelding will put the less compliant off bothering. But that applies to all breed societies that will not transfer ownership on a passport without registration certificate.
I have now found original registration certificate and apparently I can reclaim £30 but unless anyone can think of good reason to return the original for a gelding who is with me for life I won't be asking for a refund. |
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MinHe
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 7:36:24 PM
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I've been a Life Member since 1986. Reckoned that it was a bargain if I lived for more than 10 years, which I managed to do!
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gardenia
Bronze Member
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 7:44:49 PM
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| I was a member for quite a number of years until I emigrated. I remained a member for a while after that but with currency exchange rates being unfavourable, and the changes in showing techniques and bloodlines that appeared to be happening, I decided it wasn't worth getting the AHS News any more. As an overseas member the News was the only applicable membership benefit. There's a 5 pound surcharge also for international members, for postage. |
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Libby Frost
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 8:10:36 PM
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| Im a bronze member so I can show the horses at the National show :) |
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garnet
Platinum Member
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 8:49:37 PM
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I was a member for a number of years and used to love going to Haydock, Malvern etc. When I decided to call it a day membership was £44 as far as I can remember but this was not the reason I left. It was becoming increasingly obvious that Anglos and PBAs were very much the poor relations - probably the reason why registrations and entries are so low now. I remember classes with over 20 entries. Quote from a judge when I explained that my horse was on his toes because it was his first experience of the noise from the pure-bred grandstand - Well it is their show!
Letters to AHS went unanswered. There was a request in the magazine for articles so I wrote one - it was not even acknowledged, much less published. My applications for Premium Mare status for Vlacq Garnet and Aldwych Arabesque on the basis of their show records went missing for many months and only after my husband phoned were they miraculously found in a drawer and dealt with.
I was very sad to end my association with the AHS as I had had so much pleasure from being a member and learning about the breed - my first visit to Ascot in 1987 was a day I shall never forget.
As several people above have implied, some members are more equal than others! I hope the AHS will do more to encourage grass roots and lapsed members instead of apparently concentrating on the breeders and producers of extreme pure-breds. While not intending to get into a discussion on conformation, extreme type and manner of showing do nothing to endear our breed to the non-Arab horse world in general, which is also sad but a digression from the subject of this thread. |
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Pasch
Platinum Member
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 9:57:43 PM
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I can speak of the Italian Arab horse society (ANICA) they have always been very kind and efficient when I dealt with them for change of ownership for Pasch and Armos,I am not a member as I don't show or breed but they keep sending me mails on news and events.
On the other hand,their activities are mostly focused on showing.They did try recently to organise something else (dressage,endurance and western riding) but without much success as inscriptions were complicated and there are other societies doing these things better already.
i have to agree with Garnet and others as the society here is also mainly involved in showing as that's where the big money is,but this does not much to help and promote the breed-quite the opposite in fact. |
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Gail
Gold Member
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Posted - 05 Sep 2014 : 10:42:42 PM
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Hi,
I am a member, I pay £52 a year though
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