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Vik1
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  9:19:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Vik1 to your friends list Send Vik1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
With the old girl now retired she has quite alot of muscle wastage which has made her high wither even more prominent.
Noticed her rugs are causing the hair to mat and come away so she almost has a bald patch on her withers now.

Any tips on how to relieve it?

Friend said to get thick foam, cut hole out in middle so it sits either side of withers but raises the rug so its not actually sitting heavy on her withers. Thought it was a good idea, but would that not then causing pressure points either side of her withers??

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Nashiba
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  9:39:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nashiba to your friends list Send Nashiba a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have an elderly stallion with the same problem so will be following any ideas .
Even a soft Thermatex seems to rub now.
Have thought about cutting a piece out of the wither part of the rug but not sure that would work either as that would pull tighter on the shoulders.
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Judith S
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  9:39:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have a look at other styles of rug, they are all cut differently and lie differently. The satin shoulder protectors let the rug slip and prevent rubbing.

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brack369
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  9:52:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brack369 to your friends list Send brack369 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have the same problem with my old girl, I find premier equine rugs are quite high cut so don't put too much pressure on her withers. However really keen to hear if anyone else has tips

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Kes
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  10:04:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kes to your friends list Send Kes a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What about the cut back rugs that have been designed for Arabs? I'm not sure of the name but they have been mentioned on here a few times.


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Sasha Melia
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  10:22:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Sasha Melia's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Sasha Melia to your friends list Send Sasha Melia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Schneider's do lots of pressure-free-wither rugs - they are in the US but you can get them via The Arabian Emporium, Madeleine posts on here. They also do cut back wither rugs too

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martha615
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  10:32:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add martha615 to your friends list Send martha615 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the foam cut-out idea, too. Nice thought if you can keep the foam in place!

I find that everything rubs my mare's shoulders. I mean, just having something on her seems to rub! So, I use bossy bibs to some effect. Not sure it will make a difference when it is just pressure, not movement....I'm sure you thought of bossy bibs already, though
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Vik1
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  10:44:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vik1 to your friends list Send Vik1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ive never even heard of Bossy Bibs! lol. Ill have to look into that. Would be a cheaper option than replacing her huge wardrobe. I dont think it is movement, maybe slightly. When I was feeling under her rug, I could feel pressure on my hand so I guess shel be feeling it on her wither quite alot.
I think it would be better if I could change it to a stable rug at night (I dont think they are as heavy) once shes in but yo doesnt do rug changes and I cant get up in morning to put her out so she has to live in her turnout.

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Callisto
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  11:22:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some turnouts are a lot lighter than others, might be worth checking some out at your local tack shop. Would a combo rug put pressure in a different place (or a non-combo if that is what she is wearing)? Could you change her into a different turnout rug each night so that the pressure isn't in the same place all the time? (i.e alternate between a couple rather than a different rug every night).

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ali bali
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  07:07:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ali bali to your friends list Send ali bali a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I used a folded numnah between rug and withers on a pony which had terrible pressure sores from the rug it was wearing (didn't get the sores in my care I hasten to add, I was picking up the pieces ).

There was no other rug to use so during the day the pony was turned out with the numnah 'pad' in place and at night brought in and changed into a stable rug. The sores healed quickly under this routine.

I was just experimenting really as budget for kit was nil, I thought the numnah would fall straight out but it never once slipped. Beginners luck I guess! Sorry this doesn't help the OP but might help others.
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  3:43:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Use a shiny bib (we get our from an A Liner ) and yes you can stitch in foam pads in a sort of triangle shape either side of the central line at the wither - I think Everest rugs have them in already. The other thing we've done for a sweet itch rug wearer is sew shiny shoulder pads in at the wither, 2 of them so they slip over one another. Failing that, try a half neck rug as they don't press in the same place.


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Callisto
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  3:46:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What about sewing in a sheepskin pad where the pressure points are? (or glueing it in place so as not to create holes in the outer rug).

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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The Arabian Emporium
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  4:05:19 PM  Show Profile  Click to see The Arabian Emporium's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add The Arabian Emporium to your friends list Send The Arabian Emporium a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Vik,

One of the main problems with todays rugs is that there is no back seam therefore the main weight of the rug sits on the highest points of the horse the neck in front of the whither and also the rump/croup which is why some horses get rub marks on their hip bones as well. The arab cut-back rugs could help your horse here in the stable but not so much outside because the outdoor rug is heavier and it may cut in behind his whither if he is light on flesh.

The best rug for him would be the pressure free whither rug which we are looking at being made in this country. Or if you could find any rug made with a back seam. Hope this helps. we also make satin bibs,
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Vik1
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  7:07:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vik1 to your friends list Send Vik1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone. Ill have to look into what I think would work best. Tried to make the cut out foam but when I put it on her, I felt the foam was then pressing into her withers further back :/.
Ive got quite a lightweight heavyweight combo (that doesnt sound right, but you know what I mean) so Ill see how that is on her. Just dont think shes quite ready for that just yet weather wise.
A bib with foam pads would maybe work.

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delly-b
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Posted - 14 Oct 2012 :  10:41:25 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add delly-b to your friends list Send delly-b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vik1 ... I have pm'd you.
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Libby Frost
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Posted - 14 Oct 2012 :  2:22:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Libby Frost to your friends list Send Libby Frost a Private Message  Reply with Quote
half neck rugs are great for this mine wears one as he gets the same problem.

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Faracat
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Posted - 14 Oct 2012 :  6:55:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faracat to your friends list Send Faracat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I saw this the other day...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turnout-Rug-Outdoor-Rug-medium-heavy-with-or-without-neck-with-Tetris-technology-/320874787345?pt=UK_Horse_Wear_Equipment&var=&hash=item4ab5a0b211



Edited by - Faracat on 14 Oct 2012 6:56:05 PM
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ACGODFREY
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Posted - 14 Oct 2012 :  8:31:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ACGODFREY to your friends list Send ACGODFREY a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I experienced problems with my boy late winter when he'd dropped weight & muscle & he ended up with an open sore. I actually sewed a large square of a gamgee bandage pad onto the inside of the rug which takes the pressure off the wither area.

I have just acquired the new model weatherbeeta freestyle rug and it has two padded strips built in on either side of the wither. He's only been wearing it two weeks but so far so good.

Good luck!
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Gerri
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Posted - 14 Oct 2012 :  9:39:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
with my old thoroughbred we made a donought pad with a hole in the middle to keep the rugs off her withers and it really worked, we made it really thick like a large bun, because it flattens down quite a bit after a short time so we made it really exagerated and it worked
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Gerri
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Posted - 14 Oct 2012 :  9:41:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
to stop it slipping all you need to do is make sure the rug is tight over the donouhgt and it holds it in place
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