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Liz100
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 Posted - 24 Oct 2012 : 06:56:38 AM
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I'm finding this thread really interesting. I gave up on the Hypocare for Raf's mud fever as there didn't seem to be any improvement and got some cream from the vets, which seems to have worked wonders (touch wood).
I'm still hoping that the Hypocare will come in useful to treat open cuts though.
Hope everyone's neds get better soon, sasha I feel for you having 3 to deal with. |
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Eeyore
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Posted - 24 Oct 2012 : 11:23:49 AM
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I know exactly how you feel Sasha. Marim got a small cut on his pastern back at the end of August, there was no mud in his field and despite my best efforts to keep his little wound clean he got mud fever! It got really bad so he had to have antibiotics injected, followed with a course of antibiotics and danilon. The vet gave me a tube of flamazine which was soon gone and said that because the swelling was gone and he was sound to just keep putting a basic barrier cream on it.
He still had bad scabs which have lingered for ages but I recently bought some Lincoln Muddy Buddy Magic Mud Kure Cream, which to my amazement has actually worked and the scabs are at long last gone! If that didn't work I was going to get the Hypocare to try. It's so frustrating, he never got mud fever until he moved here, there must be bacteria in this soil that just doesn't suit him. |
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LesleyH
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Posted - 25 Oct 2012 : 1:48:41 PM
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I have just read an interesting article in November's issue of Your Horse about mud fever and it appears there are 3 other conditions which are often misdiagnosed as mud fever. As a few of us have no mud but our horses seem to have mud fever it could be one of the following, to quote: Leukocytoclastic pastern dermatitis which is a combination of bacterial presence, sunlight sensitivity and autoimmune issues. Alarm bells should ring when you have a horse who appears to have recurrent mud fever that won't go away. The condition is treatable with a course of steroids but the challenge is to have it correctly diagnosed in the first place.
Feather mites are often misdiagnosed as mud fever and should be treated with an anti-parasitic wash.
The third is liver function conditions where the liver is not detoxifying products of metabolism properly and they're then reacting with sunlight and other things, such as grass and plants (photosensitization). Your vet will be able to advise you on the best treatment for this.
I wouldn't mind betting Harrii has the thing with the long name - sounds very typical.
The treatment for mud fever as recommended by the article is to keep the legs clean and dry until condition has cleared. If they get wet or muddy avoid hosing them off as this makes them wetter without killing the bacteria. If you need to wash legs use Hibiscrub solution or an antibacterial shampoo containing chlorhexidine. Then towel dry thoroughly andn apply an antibiotic cream - water based so that it can soak into the wounds. If that doesn't work you may need a vet to administer antibiotics to cure any infection. If treated correctly, mud fever should clear up within seven to 10 days.
Jillandlomond - I do feel so sorry for you and your youngster with his armpit wound. Hope it heals soon. I had Harrii's sarcoids in his armpit treated with Liverpool cream a year ago and at first it looked as if the treatment worked but now they seem to be erupting again. He had the small smooth hairless type. I'm just keeping an eye on them before deciding on more treatment. |
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debs
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Posted - 28 Oct 2012 : 07:31:48 AM
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Ali just got mud fever that appeared overnight, I went down the hibiscrub route and got a potion from my vet. (E45 injected with I cant remember what  ) Almost gone in 4 days. He has never hd it before so was quite a shock...
Giz was prone to it but in those days used dermobian, lovely smelling green stuff in a tube, then it got banned from uk, always bought him in overnight when really wet and boggy which kept it under control...never washed legs.
Vet been up taking photo's of Ali sarcoid that didnt go, sending to Prof K at Liverpool, just waiting for results... not sure what I will do yet...the others seemed to have stayed away, scar tissue is really hard... |
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sasha
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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 : 08:58:50 AM
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I will now give you an update on my 3 with mudfever.
After nearly getting my head kicked in daily with my youngster, I decided to give him Sedalin, then I could safely clip the whole area round both back heels, then shampoo old cream and gunge off. When dry I sprayed with Hypocare ( while still dopey).I have put emolient cream on twice daily, scabs almost gone and he is much happier.
My 19 year old has just been sprayed twice daily with Hypocare for a week. The mudfever has not spread and last night I put a thick coating of emolient cream on the affected area and this morning all scabs just sloughed off leaving pink skin underneath. This horse had mudfever for 3 months in the summer, I couldn't stop it spreading then.
My four year old has also just had Hypocare sprayed twice daily, again the Hypocare has stopped the spreading and now after applying emolient cream he just has a small amount of scabbing to remove.
I think the best way is to treat with Hypocare for several days then put loads of emolient or aquas cream on overnight. If the horse dislikes the spray, as my youngster did, the dab it on with a cotton wool ball.
So its a big thumbs up for Hypocare from me, although I have used a full 500ml bottle in treating mine.. but well worth it.
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 : 09:35:56 AM
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I agree with lesleyh about the scabby heals, it is not always mud fever, my mare gets scabby heals but i had no mud when she last had it in the summer, it is just clearing now and i do have mud now, i treat mine with hibiscrub not to often though, then i buy sudocrem and put a few drops of tea tree oil in the pot and stir then apply every day and its nearly gone now.
Sasha yours does not sound like mud fever to me, there is also a condition called scratches google it, i think this is what my horse gets.
Debs demobion was great stuff I remember the last tube i had tried to make it last for ages, you can still get it abroad its just not licensed in the uk. |
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Vik1
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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 : 10:15:14 AM
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Dermobion was fab stuff! They always ban all the good stuff.
Ive made my own concoction for treating mud fever this year. My old girl was starting to show signs of it with a few scabs. Got them off using muddy marvel descab and since then have put on my own..baby oil/neem oil and a bit of tea tree. The skin on her white legs look great just now. |
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sasha
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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 : 11:14:57 AM
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The item about 'Scratches' is very interesting indeed, however getting hold of the items that are recommended could be more difficult.
I have a cupboard full of every imaginable lotion and potion you can imagine, as I have had problem with white legs/heels for years, but I have never found anything that has stopped the spread of mudfever or scratches in its tracks like Hypocare has. I used to use demobian when it was available,but that used to take a while to do the job of clearing the problem.
My land is well drained chalk land and with only 3 horses on 5 acres, it never gets muddy,so it must be something to do with the wet or insects. Other horses in the village have also had mudfever this year,again well drained land. |
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debs
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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 : 7:45:33 PM
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| DEFRA sends nasty letters if you buy it from abroad..... |
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sasha
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debs
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sasha
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Posted - 30 Oct 2012 : 08:42:56 AM
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But how do they find out..very interested how they are informed? |
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debs
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Posted - 30 Oct 2012 : 4:20:46 PM
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| Not sure, maybe something to do with tax? Or the import duty? |
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LesleyH
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Posted - 01 Nov 2012 : 10:22:27 AM
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| I'm still struggling to clear Harrii's scab. I've used a full bottle of 500ml Hypocare and it did seem to stop the scab spreading but I can't get rid of it altogether, although it's a very thin scab and like discoloured thickened skin. Trouble is when I exercise Harrii the scab cracks and it starts weeping underneath. Think I will try Sasha's treatment of Hypocare and then covering with Emolient cream overnight. Off to the shops then to get more supplies. |
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Kazzy
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Posted - 01 Nov 2012 : 11:03:59 AM
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I find good old fashioned Zinc and Castor Oil gets rid of scabby heels and legs.
One of mine suffers this in summer and this year has been a nightmare and eventually putting Zinc and Castor Oil on and putting a wound dressing on and wrappingin vet wrap eventually the scabs soften and you can wash them of without too much distress to the horse.
Best thing is its cheap aswell. I get mine from Boots in the baby department at about £3.00 a tub!
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MirandaToo
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Posted - 01 Nov 2012 : 11:10:13 AM
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Haven't got round to trying the Hypocare, but just thought I'd add that my girl had a very scabby, horrible heel. I washed gently with Hibiscrub.... very gently, didn't scrub and did it irregularly. Then put on a lttle smear of the Muddy Buddy Kure Cream (think that's what it's called!), then completely drowned her in the cheapest Tesco Aquaous Cream!!
So far, touch wood, we seem to be all sorted out! |
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sasha
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Posted - 01 Nov 2012 : 2:49:01 PM
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Its a lottery draw if you are successful or not, I have done all the MSM, Zinc & Castor, Sudocreme, Hibiscrub, hoof to heel, Aromaheel..could go on and on. The hypocare is the only one that has stopped the spreading, but it does take time for the scabs to come off, my old boys heels were weeping slightly for a week, so until that stopped I didn't start with emolient cream.But hopefully we are out of the woods now.. fingers crossed. |
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