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natntaz
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England
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 :  10:40:02 PM  Show Profile  Click to see natntaz's MSN Messenger address  Send natntaz a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add natntaz to your friends list Send natntaz a Private Message
Someone i knew had an RSPCA officers horse on there
yard and i was told that the way they cared for there
horse was poot. Typical do as i say not as i do.
You would think they would want to be whiter than white.

So far never had one visit other than when a fox was knocked
down, told the officer it was running around with just its
front legs dragging its back legs and when he grabbed it said
it doesnt look good but we will keep it for a few days to see.
I honestly thought the kindest thing would to have put it out
of its misery as i am as sure as anyone could be that it had
broken both legs and more.



Natalie Pix. Essex. Tariq ibn Radfan and Taroub
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MinHe
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England
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 :  12:18:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Originally posted by Kharidian

Originally posted by MinHe

They may be good with cats and dogs, but with horses they are hopeless. I have had an inspector (who previously had given me a hard time about a serial strip-artist being unrugged) ask ME for advice!

Keren


Errrm, I don't have faith in them for cats/dogs either - as evidenced by the appalling condition of the litter of kittens I fostered last year (many threads on AL about Magnum & my two kittens).

Caryn


Notice I said MAY, I didn't say they necessarily were!

Keren
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Pashon2001
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 :  01:29:47 AM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message
My opinions on the rspca have been voiced before. and if they are now not going to take animals people WANT to rehome for whatever reason is just going to make more neglect. But what do I know. what I will say is a damn sight more than they do. They are a waste of space and their rehoming rules are so stringent now that as far as I can see nothing gets a home. You cant have several dogs and want another. you cant go to work and leave an animal for 10 mins. Is your garden the right size/shape. How many hours are you going to walk him (say what?). I have offered to take elderly dogs that no one wants but apparantley I have too many. I dont get it with all these animals needing homes.
And on the horse side they dont know their arses from their elbows.


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zaminda1
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 :  02:02:13 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zaminda1 to your friends list Send zaminda1 a Private Message
I would dearly like to see them lose their charity status. They hide behind it and prey on animal lovers. The ILPH or whatever they are called these days are much more effective, and seem to know the law much more thouroughly. I would also suggest that the article in H&H is bordering on slanderous, something called innocent until proven guilty!
Good luck fighting these imbeciles
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debs
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 :  06:41:04 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message
The article in the H&H is just like the daily trial by media in the newspapers....

Rspca should be ashamed of the way they operate.

We couldn't re-home cats here because we work and we callously wanted to keep them as stable cats, shock horror. The 2 we did get(eventually!) lived to a ripe old age...(didnt stay outside for long though!!!!)

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Smiler
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 :  1:19:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Smiler to your friends list Send Smiler a Private Message
they are definitely no better with cats and dogs what other charity kills 10 GSD's with a bolt gun ?


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jobo
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 :  2:05:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jobo to your friends list Send jobo a Private Message
Ive had spitefull neighbours call the welfare out to us about 4 yrs ago now,they had been told i had too many and couldnt look after them,although they get through 5/6 bales of haladge in the yard in winter and have a shelter which they can use anytime they want etc,it turned the idea was that if they took my ponies off me then we would have no reason to stay here without them and sell the place cheap to them!!! There grounds for it were which they thought would get me in trouble was that during the winter months the ponies are wintered on deep litter beds with plenty of straw on top so the beds remain dry,ive always done this and never caused any problems with feet etc in 26yrs of keeping them this way,i still have my first foal i bred and he turns 17 in may. I think they thought that this was a crime??? Although i have seen articles on this in horse mags about keeping yearlings this way as long as its kept dry it works very well and is the right level to work,ofcourse thses are the same people who thought that my ponies wanted to be treated to a six hour firework display??? Didnt seem to care about the welfare then did they? Maybe there should be some kind of org. Set up that could help people when they are ineed instead of taking the old animals that have been together all there life which will devastate them and the owner/s people do go through bad times for one reason or another,just think it would be better all round to help first then act if thers no other option. Very sad
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jobo
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 :  2:08:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jobo to your friends list Send jobo a Private Message
I MEANT TO SAY 5/6 BALES IN THREE WEEKS,THEY ARE SPOILT,AND FEED,AND VETS,ETC SOME PEOPLE ARE REALY NASTY.
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Pax
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Posted - 01 Apr 2012 :  8:29:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pax to your friends list Send Pax a Private Message
Does anyone have an update on what is happening in Lesley's court case? This thread seems now to be about the RSPCA ...
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Callisto
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Posted - 01 Apr 2012 :  9:17:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message
I have been checking, but cannot find anything about whether the case has been resolved, only the initial media reports.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
East Sussex
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rosie
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Posted - 30 Aug 2012 :  5:46:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosie to your friends list Send rosie a Private Message
This trial is now back in court and due to last 4 days:
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/9897313.Horse_care_expert_denies_neglect_case/





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Edited by - rosie on 30 Aug 2012 5:57:50 PM
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phoenixbruka
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England
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Posted - 03 Sep 2012 :  3:40:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit phoenixbruka's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add phoenixbruka to your friends list Send phoenixbruka a Private Message
In all honesty I have little faith in the RSPCA, as they are usually SO lazy on horse welfare and unwilling to act!
thats why Im amazed, if there was no basis to act then I cant see why they would have done so. AND 3 horses be put to sleep ?? whats that about??

I would welcome them on my yard any day and have 100% confidence any inspector from any society would walk away very happy. Would that have been the case here?

I await the full details with interest. As has been said before theres plenty of help if its asked for even in this harsh climate with little time and even less money people are always willing to help if they can

susie


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phoenixbruka
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England
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Posted - 03 Sep 2012 :  3:46:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit phoenixbruka's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add phoenixbruka to your friends list Send phoenixbruka a Private Message
having read the news update it seems that he ability to say goodbye at the right time for the horse has been the biggest problem.

That is still not excusable for someone so knowledgeable

Basic care such as dentistry and farriery and the ability to keep a horses stable clean should be at the top of any owners priorities.

Susie


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Kazzy
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England
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Posted - 03 Sep 2012 :  4:05:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message
Agree with you Pheonixbruka.

Some people think that becuase there is still life in them and they are still breathing that they should carry on and its not the case, they were obvioulsy suffering poor things

I remember reading somewhere not about this case but something else were someone had been to see some horses and the owner took great pleasure in showing them a horse well into its 30's stuck in a stable all day and night not being able to get out partly becuase it couldnt and the poor horse looking so damn miserable they thought it was great that the horse was still alive and that they were doing it a favour

if only they could speak.....

Janet



Sunny Cheshire
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basbob
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France
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Posted - 03 Sep 2012 :  4:46:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add basbob to your friends list Send basbob a Private Message
Agree with Pheonixbruka and Kazzy. I would always welcome any of the welfare people across my land.
I had the RSPCA knock on my door in the UK reporting a horse lying still in the paddock. It turned out to be the farm next door but we both went and took a look at the horse, which was dead, and the RSPCA did their job.
She did explain that the law is not always on their side as trespassing always is voiced.

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Delyth
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Sep 2012 :  5:26:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message
To have three of the horses PTS speaks volumes and there is no excuses - end of. You read this time and time again people who talk the talk, have unlimited amount of 'knowledge' but their own houses are far from in order !!
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phoenixbruka
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England
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Posted - 03 Sep 2012 :  6:39:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit phoenixbruka's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add phoenixbruka to your friends list Send phoenixbruka a Private Message
well said Delyth!

Susie


www.liveryatcordwell.co.uk
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basbob
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Posted - 03 Sep 2012 :  7:57:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add basbob to your friends list Send basbob a Private Message
couldn't agree more!

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Zareeba
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Posted - 04 Sep 2012 :  10:23:43 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zareeba to your friends list Send Zareeba a Private Message
All I can say at this time is that the news reports have been biased, unfair and inaccurate, and I will be making a complaint to the Press Complaints Commission. As I have said on here before, things were not as the press would have you believe, especially re the 3 horses that were pts. I will explain more fully when I have had a chance to run what I want to say past our barrister, but in the meantime I will just say this: don't judge until you have the facts, and you won't get those from our gutter press!

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RUTHIE
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Posted - 04 Sep 2012 :  1:26:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RUTHIE to your friends list Send RUTHIE a Private Message
Well said, Zareeba! Need to hear what is going on from you.


In Memory of Crystal Flash 2010-2012
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phoenixbruka
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England
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Posted - 04 Sep 2012 :  3:32:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit phoenixbruka's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add phoenixbruka to your friends list Send phoenixbruka a Private Message
surely you are having a laugh!!

Well said ?? I dont think so. these horses we're beyond help and there is NO EXCUSE for not mucking out because of the weather blah blah blah !!!

susie


www.liveryatcordwell.co.uk
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Kazzy
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England
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Posted - 04 Sep 2012 :  3:34:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message
I have seen the local paper report and its quite shocking really what these poor horses went through

No excuse for the state of these horses really, bad weather and having flu doesnt count in my books. We all had to do our horses when it was -20!!

Janet



Sunny Cheshire
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alison
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Wales
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Posted - 04 Sep 2012 :  4:46:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alison to your friends list Send alison a Private Message
Have to agree with Kazzy and Phoenixbruka 'there is no excuse' for 'Professional people and loving horse owners' to let these poor horses get in such a state. The report I have read is a direct transcript from the 'Court reporting' so cannot be misinterpreted...... This is a very very poor show and the adage 'do as I say - but not what I do' springs to mind. Very Shameful.
Alison
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rosie
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England
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Posted - 04 Sep 2012 :  4:58:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosie to your friends list Send rosie a Private Message
http://www.darlingtonandstocktontimes.co.uk/news/9908213.Couple_found_guilty_of_cruelty_to_horses/




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Eeyore
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Posted - 04 Sep 2012 :  5:00:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Eeyore to your friends list Send Eeyore a Private Message
What I've read absolutely beggars belief

There is NO excuse for leaving horses without proper hoof and dentistry care and as for having beds over 1ft deep in muck because you had flu?!!!

What is wrong with people?
I'm rapidly losing all my faith in humanity Utterly despicable.

Usually the RSPCA are criticised for not taking decisive action soon enough so the fact they felt the need to have these poor horses put out of their misery speaks volumes.

I hope they are banned from keeping horses for life and as for the books they've written - maybe they should have got up from the laptop and phoned a vet and farrier. Or picked up a muck shovel?!

Heléna

Edited by - Eeyore on 04 Sep 2012 5:02:46 PM
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