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LYNDILOU
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 Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 09:03:07 AM
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by the state of this mare , she and her foal have been bought by ESMA with our donations ,if she recovers what will her future be? there is more unrest in Egypt and I doubt things are going to improve for a long time yet. if ever , I was dismayed to see she still wears a chain halter even though we ourselves sent at least 100, were are they???? I am sorry to post this picture because I know it will hurt your eyes and heart the way it hurt mine, but not seeing these things is like pretending all is well , and its not !
edited to remove picture of dying horse which was not the one bought by ESMA. she and her foal are safe at the moment. this is I believe the rescued mare and foal.
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LYNDILOU
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Iris
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 09:13:43 AM
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| I do hate people sometimes. Poor mare. :( |
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arabianrio
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 09:14:04 AM
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| Lump in my throat..how could they be so cruel. Thank goodness she is at peace now. |
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Kazzy
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 09:20:10 AM
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Lynda, we live in a cruel cruel world
If its not animals that are suffering by human hands then its innocent victimns of war that suffer by human hands aswell.
I despair of some human beings these days I really do!!
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Quarabian
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 10:45:01 AM
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While I am hurt and angry and I don't know the circumstamces of this mare, I wonder if this is more complete ignorance than intended cruelty. I am not one of those who would like to see the owner strung up, but I would definately want to see him accountable for his actions.
You must be devastated Lyndilou after all your efforts this is still happening. I hope her foal fares better, I will be thinking about him. |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 10:52:43 AM
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I heard when the mare was lying starving with her foal close by , the owner was found drinking tea with his friends in a cafe just a short distance away! ignorance is not blind ! even he could see she was starving , I didnt show you the body pictures , but this mare has been starving for a long time.
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Cate
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 11:34:33 AM
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| I just cannot understand people being so cruel and wicked. Poor mare and foal. It doesn't take rocket science to know an animal needs food and water. |
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sab2
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 11:41:33 AM
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Very sad this poor mare, at least she is at peace now and cannot be abused anymore, the poor foal on the other hand goodness knows what will happen to him, i cry when i see these photos there was one of a foal the other week and it just looked lifeless, its eyes told an awful story, god help these poor animals  anybody can see they need desperate help, i do not now think anybody can say its ignorance as it has gone on for too long , RIP dear mare. |
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littlearabians
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 11:42:27 AM
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To be honst after seeing the pictures on FB just now I dont understand WHY they didnt put the mare down straight away rather then let her suffer a rather traumatic way of being moved which more then likely was the final straw that made her body go into chock and shut down.... having said this I will just make sure everybody understands I dont agree with the way the mare was treated before they found her eigther.
this body picture isnt too bad, and looking at the skeleton mare Im surprised to find the foal looking so well.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 12:11:31 PM
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This is NOT the mare recently rescued by ESMA.. You have it mixed up.
This is a mare near to Marte's stables and nothing to do with ESMA's Rescue.OK.
I'm still collecting Funds to Help ESMA to finance the Feed Day Mare & Foal. They are doing well and the foal is eating greens and looking a lot better. The mare is eating hard food and greena and the vet has visited her yesterday and will pop in again soon.
So please don't get mixed up.
And Your talking about a small charity feeding hundreds of horses, they don't own the horses the owners are desperate after tourist stayed away following the riots earlier in the year. ESMA has feed these horses sometimes amounting to 650 in a day, provided them with food to take away to last the 7 or 10 days between feed days. Last week there were 410 horses turn up to get food for their horses.ESMA don't own these horses they are just doing the best they can in the circumstances to support the owners and feed the horses. The Brook pulled out on the 20th April..without ESMA these horses would have been left high & dry..no food at all. They don't own these horses they are just trying to feed them and provide treatment to support the owners and slowly educate folks.. It won't happen in a minute. A couple of weeks ago they started a programme of worming..410 horses to worm in a day or two.. starting at 10am and finishing at 6pm.. all unpaid volunteers doing there best, giving up there time to support the situation.. Not only the horses are starving..the people are starving too.
Two vets have been in attendance over the last few weeks..giving out treatment and drugs for the horses. these people have no means. You must make up your own minds about what you do and if you wish to support these efforts.. There will be change but it wont be easy and it wont happen in a moment. I like to see where the funds are going and with ESMA you can see where the money is going. Many of the better conditioned horses are turned away, what you are seeing is those that need treatment and bringing there horses to get fed on the day and take food away.
The mare & foal that ESMA secured last Thursday is doing well. I'll provide an update to anyone who wishes to have one. I have started a collection to support ESMA specifically for this mare & foal.So if anyone wishes to make a donation that will go straight to help these two, now with ESMA..they can contact me. I am in direct contact with ESMA in Egypt and can give you an update if ness. OK.
Many of us love horses and it hurts to see them treated badly or hungry.. At least with ESMA we can see where our money is going and the efforts they are making. Just have a little tot up and see how much horse feed they are using every 10 days, then have a quick add up and work out what it must be costing to buy this feed.Every horse that attends is registered in the book, thin horses are fed on the day in front of the ESMA team..they can see the vet if they wish and many many of them are getting treatment. ESMA is a small orginastion and they need all the help they can get..funds are just eaten every feed day.. give a thought. They could back off and not bother.. they have no official stance on this situation.. The Brooke pulled out which helped no horse or donkey.
Cheers Sue
Just go to there site and see all the 600 cats & dogs they are also looking after.
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Kazarsmum
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 12:16:41 PM
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yes a totally different mare. they couldnt put her to sleep as they still needed the have permission form the owner. she is at peace now, god bless her. Marte and her team are true angels.
they are now trying to raise the funds to rescue the poor foal. he is still with the owner. Please give it you can. |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 12:16:48 PM
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| I hope I have rectified my mistake of the two mares one who has since died this is the one who is rescued by ESMA |
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LYNDILOU
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sab2
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 12:31:40 PM
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Sue if you are still collecting funds could i send you a cheque please, i never go near a bank ( live out in the sticks) if that was ok could you pm my where to post it to, thanks Sally  |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 12:38:20 PM
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I have been told by Rozy rider that I have the wrong mare and that the mare and foal rescued by ESMA are doing fine and that what I have written is deeply damaging?? if so I apologise , but I do not apologize for showing you the horse that DID die she was not lucky enough to be rescued ( or maybe she was lucky, shes out of it now ! |
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sab2
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 12:41:19 PM
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| Well by showing this Lyndilou you have prompted me into sending some more money so at least one good thing has come out of it |
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Smiler
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 12:55:56 PM
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| I was too tired yesterday to post these pics i saw them and thought i would post today but glad to find lynda has already , yes its correct the mare and foal rescued by emsa are different not sure where they have been taken yet the mare that died good harted marte was going to save remember nana was in same kind of condition and is doing well i feel this mare was just to far gone to save bless her she is out of pain now and bless marte for at least trying |
   
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Quarabian
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 1:00:08 PM
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| My goodness she is the skinniest I have ever seen. Poor foal is going to need some tlc. I take back what I said about ignorance, this is criminal negligence. |
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littlearabians
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 1:04:26 PM
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I havent got a clue what mare is what, I saw Lyndas picture found the mare 2 min later on FB and thought it was a horrible way of moving a very very weak horse.... I would never put any weakened animal through such a traumatic move.... besides all the pictures shown before they moved her are showing a mare that IMO should be put down on the spot... whether they bought her free first to move her or to pts instantly wouldnt make a difference to me... the poor girl was judging by the pictures gone far past saving.
Glad to hear the ESMA mare is safe... doesnt change my views on the above saturation though. |
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littlearabians
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 1:07:17 PM
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| And Lynda, I might have misunderstood your latest picture post, but I DO think the first mare is VERY bad, I just saying that Im surprised to see the foal looking so well (read doesnt look too bad when you think of the state of the mare) when the mare is so bad... but she has without a doubt given the tiny bits she had to save her baby. |
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Smiler
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 1:13:50 PM
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yes i think most of us would of PTS on the spot below is what marte has posted about the mare and the situation ....
I know that looking at these pics you might think she should have been put to sleep. So did I and the guys, but at this point we still hadn't seen the owner and had no right to make any decision. Also, after only 10 minutes on the drip she was munching away like crazy, and we thought that if she still had an appetite we should give her a chance.
The fly screen is from Wendy McComb, Wendy I think it could not have been put to better use, thank you so much
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littlearabians
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 1:58:42 PM
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Smiler nearly 99% of severly dehydrated or starved horses will react possitive to being on a drip after a short while, this happends as the body will get fluids and glocusamine.... ei. they will brigthen up and try to eat or drink some even try to get up on their feet.... however most of them will die from the efford of doing this if they are as bad this mare.... Also an animal in as bad a state as this often dies from just the sligthest bit of stress, if you still wanted to try and save her best thing would have been to leave her on site, provide her with shade, a drip and food, then when she was stabilized a bit you could attempt on moving her.
After working 3 years at an equine hospital sadly I do know a dying horse when I see one even from pictures.
If you hadnt made contact to the owner, what gives you the right to move the mare?
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Callisto
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 8:06:37 PM
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It's unfortunate that Lynda originally posted the wrong photo, but I really don't see how that is damaging. These photos show that the situation for these poor animals is appalling, and I will be sending funds to ESMA again. It is too easy to think that the situation has improved and the animals are no longer suffering. Until Lynda's other post about the Brooke failing to provide adequate emergency vet cover has resolved (if it is), I will not be sending them any more money, which I have always done up to now.
Sadly I agree that the horse that died is far better off - what kind of life did she have to look forward to? Just hope ESMA can save the foal. |
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 12 Sep 2011 : 8:14:52 PM
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| Thanks for bringing this back to our attention, Lyndilou, whatever picture used it reminds us of the situation out there. |
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