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Pheebs
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  11:10:01 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A local riding school is currently using the field next to ours for a 38 year old horse to live out her "last summer" before being pts next month. She has taught 100's of people to ride in her lifetime. Since she's been in the field (since March time) they've only been up to see her once or twice (she didn't have water so I've been regularly filling it up) and nobody could get anywhere near her. I felt so sorry for her that I decided i'd try and spend time with her. It didn't take long and she now waits for me, and comes straight up to me for a cuddle and scratch, and when I leave she stands at the fence calling for awhile. I'm really bonding with her, and my neighbour told me I need to be careful about getting too attached given what will be at the end of the summer.

She suffers from terrible mud fever and I know it would be cruel in many senses to keep her going over the winter when it gets so boggy but I am just so sad that at the end of her life she has just been left like this.

Edited by - Pheebs on 14 Aug 2011 5:42:22 PM
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sab2
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  11:21:32 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poor old girl, at least you are there for her although it should be her owners, sadly when they reach a certain age and of no use some people disregard them, please give this old lady a big hug and a scrub from me
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Pheebs
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  11:32:29 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by sab2

Poor old girl, at least you are there for her although it should be her owners, sadly when they reach a certain age and of no use some people disregard them, please give this old lady a big hug and a scrub from me


Will do, am going to try and give her a good brush tomorrow and give her a little big of dignity back before it happens. my horses will never be abandoned due to old age
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RUTHIE
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  6:08:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RUTHIE to your friends list Send RUTHIE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why is she being pts, because she is 38 or has other issues?


In Memory of Crystal Flash 2010-2012
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Ari
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  6:56:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poor old girl. My 29yr old gets more attention than ever because I am so grateful to still have her. She has started a new career bless her as a lead rein pony for my 5 yr old grandson.
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  7:18:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh Pheebs, has she company, apart from you? She obviously loves your attention. If you had'nt been there what would have happened, no water?? Sad, and as for becoming attached to her....too late I'm afraid as you are.

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Quarabian
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  7:54:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Quarabian to your friends list Send Quarabian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can't cope with this. Are we going to rescue her?

I am so glad you are spending some time with her, but why must she die? is it purely financial or has she got medical problems.
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complete novice
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  8:03:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add complete novice to your friends list Send complete novice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pheebs where abouts are you?
If they are not providing water surely that is cruelty and should be reported.

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Pheebs
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  8:13:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
She has company on the other side of an electric fence but only overnight. Another of the riding stables horses was in there until about 3 weeks again because he was lame but they've taken him away. I do know that she suffers from mud fever so the winters are problematic but other than that as far as I can tell she is in okay health. She is about 15hhs and a heavy horse- very cobby with huge beautiful feather.

As you may have seen from another of my threads I cannot take on another hence why I am currently searching for a livery to join us- believe me I am trying to figure a way around it but this is worsened by the fact that our land is hear in Cornwall and I will be mostly residing in Bristol for a couple of years (OH staying behind). I feel awful that I cannot have particularly as I feel we are connecting so well.

What can I do other than make her remaining time as enjoyable as possible?
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Pheebs
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  8:19:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by complete novice

Pheebs where abouts are you?
If they are not providing water surely that is cruelty and should be reported.


They were relying on what I think was a natural supply of water which dried up and because they haven't been visiting they didn't notice. I don't think it's cruelty so much as negligence but either way it wasn't intentional.

As awful as it sounds I just don't think many people can accommodate elderly horses anymore :(
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debs
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  9:47:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Er sorry but I would beg to differ... in my eyes just not visiting at least once a day IS cruelty.
It does make me angry...
I'm so pleased you have connected with her... poor old dear, done her lifes work then just forgotten.
If someone wants rescue her I can give a small donation...
D'you know what... surely these people think about putting to sleep before they just forget?????????????????

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debs
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  9:48:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And if its a riding school its even worse..........

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debs
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  9:49:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh god... mind is whirring.... no fly spray either.

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Pheebs
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  10:40:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm so sorry I didn't mean to make everyone so angry and upset I just needed to share the sadness I feel for this mare. I will endevour to make her last days with us as special as possible and make sure she is well cared for.

I am sorry I cannot do more. My neighbour (who's field is the one being rented) has been in and out of hospital so I have been looking after 5 horses instead of 2 which alongside work is extremely time consuming and exhausting bearing in mind I suffer from CFS. If I could do more for her, please understand that I would.
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Gerri
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  09:37:31 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OMG this is awful please please find someone that will take her on as a companion, please don't let her end her days like his
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  10:21:45 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If she has bad mud fever in winter she should have her feathers clipped off and if she has cow udder cream (I mix it with liquid parrafin to make it runnier) or something similar on her legs before the mud arrives she will not get mud fever. I had a mare who got it very badly on her one white leg (although they were all white as she was a grey) and by doing that she never got it again. She was stabled at night on deep straw so her legs dried and I just rubbed my hand down her legs to remove any traces of mud in the morning and reapplied the grease. It only needed to be done every other day after the first week or so.

It is so sad that people discard old horses like a broken telly.

Many years ago when I had my horses at DIY where we all rented stables and our own field a new horse appeared in a field in the early summer. She was obviously very old, a bit arthritic and one huge knee. It turned out that her owners were wealthy people who had point to pointers and this old mare in her thirties had been the wife's beloved pony. She then went on a series of loans and had now come back as she was no longer rideable. The people never came near her. Three of us clubbed together and rented a stable for the winter and between us we fed her and looked after her all winter, one of the others had a rug that fitted her so she even had a nice rug. On day the folowwing spring when we got to the yard she had disappeared and we heard later that the owners had come and taken her to be slaughtered. Nice people, we never even saw them; probably just as well! She was such a sweet mare and no bother at all, how anyone who had owned her and supposedly loved her could just throw her out in a field and forget her I do not know particularly as they had "better" horses who they lavished care on.

Barbara

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Pheebs
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  10:28:30 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have been looking for someone to take her as a companion but the horse world in Cornwall seems to have come to a stop. Even the nicest of horses priced reasonably aren't finding homes which leaves me with little hope for her.

I just don't know what to do.

My neighbour who's field she is in should be out of hospital and back up at the field in the next day or so, I will see if she's got any ideas as she knows far more people than I! However I think she has already tried and failed to find her a home.
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Quarabian
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  12:19:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Quarabian to your friends list Send Quarabian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pheebs, don't feel bad. This isn't really your problem. I am glad you brought it to our attention and now if there is anyone who can help at least they are aware.

As to the cruelty issue, well, I suppose the riding school were at least trying to give her a summer at grass by way of a thank you. The fact that they haven't done a very good job doesn't mean they are heartless.

I just don't want you to feel bad about this, you are doing what you can.
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Pheebs
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  12:23:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you Quarabian, you have no idea how much that means to me.

The mare & I are becoming closer still which is making this even harder- I don't want to let her down but I feel that at least spending the time that I am with her is better than nothing.

The use of my neighbours field is in exchange for the riding school taking one of her ponies who needed to be taught some manners under the saddle (he's a sweetheart, who just needed a firm hand) and he wasn't due to be back until September so I assumed thats how long the mare had left with me. However I have just found out he's returning early, this saturday so I don't know what that means for the mare. As soon as I know more I will update you all.

In the meantime, tonight she will be getting a good groom!
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  1:57:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Offira to your friends list Send Offira a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh bless her, 38 is a fantastic age. I bet she really appreciates you making a fuss of her. If she is living out without supplementary feed or anyone caring for her (apart from you) she is doing really well.

I would be willing to donate a bit to cover moving costs if someone is able to take her on. I have a 36 year old who is very demanding (in fact a total brat) so can't take another one on. I have a Rambo Exel 6ft turnout that would prob fit her and/or a Masta stable rug if that is any help.
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  2:45:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paresh to your friends list Send Paresh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
poor girl, I had to have our old pony PTS the other week at the age of 37yrs, the last two winters had taken their toll on him, and he wasnt a happy pony anymore, he had lost his spark and it was time to let him go, I hope its the same for this girl and not just that she isnt able to earn her keep anylonger so they are getting rid off her.

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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  2:48:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add complete novice to your friends list Send complete novice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It isn't you Pheebs who has made people angry, they are angry about the situation. Everyone is aware you are doing all you can so don't feel bad about bringing it to peoples attention, she's lucky to have found you.
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Pheebs
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  2:56:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll try and take some pics of her this afternoon, she's such a pretty mare.
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Pheebs
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  5:45:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me giving her a good groom (and believe me it was needed she must have been so itchy and uncomfortable)


After her groom enjoying some garlic lick (once she figured out it wasn't a monster!) and exploring the grooming kit


Having a cuddle

Letting me know she really DID enjoy that garlic lick after all!
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  6:50:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What a lovely old lady, looks like she is really enjoying your company, i am happy to chip in with some money if it helps
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ali bali
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  6:59:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ali bali to your friends list Send ali bali a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bless you Pheebs, its a kind and brave thing you are doing, giving the old girl some love and dignity in her last days. Alison
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