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hazelcat74
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 Posted - 04 Jun 2011 : 10:52:32 PM
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My friend and I are looking into renting some land to keep our horses together, between us we have 5 so obviously expensive at livery even DIY. We went to look at a 5.5 acre field with 2 big shelters/stables, separate riding paddock, water and electric, the owner said rent was negotiable when we rang up, so along we went to look. Then he says he has been told he can probably get about £250 per week, yes per WEEK! not per month!!! for this. We were quite gobsmacked, between us we pay just under 400 per month and that is at yards with proper tack rooms/toilets/sand school etc. The guy was definite that this 250 per week was what he might expect. We have said our max is 300 per month though I think that is on the steep side,as it is a lot further to travel also (7 miles) so am curious what you think is reasonable rent for 5.5 acres/2 shelters/water/electric? I appreciate it will vary over the country, we are in North Yorkshire. Thanks!
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Cinnypony
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Posted - 04 Jun 2011 : 11:15:27 PM
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Hummm....
I have a 3 acre field, plus 1/2 acre paddock, hay barn, mains water and electricity. No field shelter, but good natural shelter. Can do as I please, the owners are lovely.
Round here you seem to pay per horse, so I pay £10 per horse per week - £30 per week for 3 - 5 mins hack to open Forest. |
    
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Kes
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England
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 01:07:10 AM
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The yard I am at is 5 acres, doesn't have electric, lights that only run off a generator, we only have running water if you phone up one of the houses along side the yard who provide our water by hosepipe to the yard, we don't have a proper school surface or purpose built stabling and no field shelters. All the liveries pay £20 per week per horse and we found out recently that the people who lease the land pay £600-£700 per month. At present I am about to move to another yard.
Hopes this gives you an idea, Carole. |
    
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moatside
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littlearabians
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 07:41:52 AM
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| The rent of land has gone up this year in this area... normally its been about £120 pr acre pr annum, including fertaliser, this year its nearly £200 for grazing including fertaliser... This information was given to me by a farmer who rents out to sheep... the fact is when you say horse it sometimes cost a lot more... sadly most people here in England seam to want payment pr week pr horse rather then a monthly price... |
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doug ault
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 09:06:36 AM
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| Whatever you do, get a properly drawn up agreement ,dont trust verbals, we had the experience once of a verbal on a 5 acre field for £50 per month, then after we had moved the horses we were told that it was only half the field and £100 per month, this was in Powis, hence the phrase'' welshing on the deal''. |
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delly-b
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 09:38:51 AM
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| Ditto what Doug said.... Also find out who will be responsible for spraying the land etc and the maintenance of the boundaries. Sorry, I can't help with costs, though my father in law charged £5 per horse per week for grazing, which I think is way below normal rates. |
       
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Kes
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England
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 09:48:46 AM
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It does seem that every area/county has varying rates, and annoyingly I seem to be in one of the expensive ones!
Pretty much everywhere around here is £20 p/w for just DIY grazing no stable or £30 p/w for DIY grazing with a stable. Most places around here charge £130 p/m to account for 4.3 weeks to a month.
So working on the OP comments of £250 p/w for 5 horses with the faciicities already there I would say if you compare to down here that's about £100 too much p/w. |
Carole & Kes, West Sussex. |
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cmj
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France
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 10:13:38 AM
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I am in North Bucks and rent my land out to friends: approx 5 acres, 5 new high spec stables (including foaling box with cctv), hay barn, stud rail and tornado fencing, safe gates, direct access to bridlepath. Electric and water (they pay for that). It is really, really lovely!!! All for just £300 per month :( It totally depends where you are and who is after it. I decided to rent for less than I could have got as I wanted responsible people who would take care of it as if it was their own. They do!
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 10:59:09 AM
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| I am very lucky in that we are good friends with the family that we rent our land from. I have 10 acres and it costs me £300 a year!! We also have our own field (4 acres) that we built our stables, hayshed and arena on. If I had to pay livery for my 3 there is NO WAY I could afford to have them all. |
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Smiler
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natntaz
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England
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 1:49:54 PM
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| At our yard it is DIY Livery £100 per calender month. Grazing livery is £12.50 per week. We are in Essex. |
   
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leiat8
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 2:08:01 PM
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we rent two fields one being 1.2 acres with make shift stable and field shelter,tack shed but no water or electric for £500 per year, the other is 4 acres small barn,natural shelter with mains water, no electric but good hacking for £50 per week!! am not particularly happy with it but what can you do when they have you over a barrel??? just have to keep our fingers crossed that we win the lotto. |
     
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delly-b
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 2:52:13 PM
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Ha ha, Smiler, my arabs kind of took over, so neighbours pony is no more! Oops... He does still use a section of the land I fenced off for their horses, so I'm not too mean ;-) ...
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hazelcat74
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 8:24:51 PM
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thanks everyone, still cant understand where this guy got 250 per week from Will wait and see, he wasnt keen on 300 per month for 5 of them and is thinking about it and readvertising. It is a lovely place but is 7 miles out of town so will cost a lot in petrol, so don't think he is going to have too many people interested, I think we may be better off staying put in livery yard, with cost of fuel and time travelling out there may cost just as much. |
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Smiler
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 10:50:28 PM
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hazelcat just realised you said Yorkshire i thought fields were much cheaper up north than down south and much more to choose from so yes i do think 250 a week is way over the top you sure the person he was talking to didn't mean 250 a month ? as that sounds more like it  i would personally wait till something else comes up |
   
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Kes
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England
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 11:04:12 PM
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| As I am also currently looking for a new equine abode and I have been balancing out costs etc. I have been looking for over 2 weeks and have looked at about 6 places so far. It's disappointing when you find a really nice place but then realise the cost of travelling there back and forth twice a day, possibly through stop-start traffic which will cost a fortune. A really nice yard I looked at was £130 p/m for lovely grazing and a nice stable and school, then I worked out that my petrol would be at least £85 p/w. If you don't get the land you want instead of just relying on livery yards and other 'known' equine places, don't forget to ask all your local farmers. It's amazing what little pockets of land they have just laying about the place and will often only ask a small price in return for grazing use. |
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hazelcat74
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 11:25:46 PM
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Smiler, when he said 250 per week I said to him don't you mean per month and he said no, per week, I nearly fell over! He said they have never rented the land out before so aren't sure what to charge but were told 250 by someone, I keep thinking maybe they said 250 per month and he got confused, you could reasonably have 5-6 horses so that is £40-50 per week per horse for grazing, shelter, water and electric, crazy! Even the posh places nearby aren't that much for DIY that I know of.
Between me and my friend it would be 150 per month each if he accepted our offer of 300pcm but with fuel it wont be any cheaper than livery yard, disappointing but you live and learn.
Kes, we have been looking for some time and been offered summer grazing by several people but farmers don't seem to like them out in winter, which is what we are looking for, 2 of our horses really dont like being in so we need them to be able to live out all yr. easier said than done! |
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connormum
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Posted - 05 Jun 2011 : 11:34:51 PM
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| I'm paying £15 per week and that is for, an individual paddock of an acre, and a stable, DIY. We have a paddock for jumping, but no schooling arena, just an open field, which the owners sometimes put their horses on to graze, so it's hit and miss if you can use it and I have to come through that field to the stables from Freddie's field. Water and electricity is included, but electric is turned off during British Summer time. I'm on Cambs/Beds borders. I'd of thought further north you would get a lot more for your money. However it's only a couple of minutes from home so petrol is not really something I need to consider, and tbh I could walk it! |
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simbba
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Lin123
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Posted - 06 Jun 2011 : 12:06:46 AM
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I pay £20 per week per horse and I'm on the Northants/Cambs/Leics borders. At one place I have 7 acres, running fresh water stream, excellent horse fencing and the use of 2 big old cattle barns with water and electricity for the Winter with 2 big field shelters in the paddocks. At the other place I have an acre+ with 3 brick built stables, feed room, running water and electricity and both places are within a couple of miles of my home. No other facilities but my horses at the moment are in race/endurance training and come home to me for their holidays - Nov to Feb. I consider myself lucky as all around me the farming is arable or sheep/cattle and grazing for horses is at a premium.
Edited to add: I can do what I like and at both locations the landowner maintains the fields.
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Edited by - Lin123 on 06 Jun 2011 12:09:29 AM |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 06 Jun 2011 : 01:04:56 AM
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Lin's sounds like a good deal.
I rented untill 1990, paid £20 a week to include agood stable water & electric and turn out. all mod coms. about 3miles from home.
At the end of 1990, as I was working, I bought 3.1/5acres + 6 wooden stables all good, water and had the electric connected. About 4 miles form home, but our own place and just my horses. Cost: £350 month as I'd borrowed the money over a short term and having to pay the loan off.(worked out to over £75 a week).
Just have to remember.. tney arnt making any more.. its not like carpet and it wont wear out..you'd pay a similar price for good carpet..so a good investment, usually. Sold ours for £10K per acre... horse grazing is at a premium.
Alway nice to have the animals in the back garden..
Good Luck.
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Callisto
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Posted - 06 Jun 2011 : 01:10:11 AM
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We pay £200 per month for 12 acres, brickbuilt stableyard with 4 stables, tackroom and feed/haystore, plus we have put up our own mobile fieldshelter. This includes mains water and electricity. On top we pay £20 per month for keeping our horse lorries (2) and trailer there. There is also good natural shelter there, and access to reasonable hacking. To be honest the fencing is aged and ropey, so we have electric fenced within them. We also paid for it to be harrowed and rolled ourselves this spring. This is in East Sussex, a couple of miles from home, and in dire weather (snow) that for some reason I couldn't get my 4 x 4 through (very steep hills) I could walk it if I had to.
ETA to give you an idea of land prices here, a poorly drained North facing 6 acre field with 4 wooden stables and a feed store has just gone on the market here for £120,000 although I don't know who would buy it at that price... |
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 06 Jun 2011 : 11:06:59 AM
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I am in mid Suffolk and am told that grazing around here is £12.50 per week per horse with no facilities. Sorry, don't know anyone at full livery or renting stables so no idea what that costs.
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zebedeedeb
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Posted - 07 Jun 2011 : 07:42:50 AM
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| im in sussex near the downs,, slindon,, its £25 per week per horse, with same paddock all year round,,its crazy here,, will be lookiing into moving nearer the new forest in a few years time,,,,deb |
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precious
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Posted - 07 Jun 2011 : 12:23:04 PM
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by me in the west midlands, a 5 acre field with running water, 2 field shelters and stables and generator is £15 per week per horse but you have to maintain field ie weeding urself.
for a basic 5 acre field no water no electric etc is £40 per week for the whole lot. |
     
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