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Roseanne
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  10:45:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's an interesting point about ensuring the horses are registered etc. I agree to an extent but my first thought would be that those wanting the horse to be registered, rather than passported, would be seeking to breed from it; and if it's an elderly mare, perhaps that's the very thing it shouldn't be doing! Plus, should people be taking on mares just because they can be bred from in this economic climate when there are very few people to sell to?

Roseanne
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lisa rachel
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Wales
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  08:22:02 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lisa rachel to your friends list Send lisa rachel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
....All of you!! In these difficult times it's so nice to read of so many horses who ARE safe forever.
We lost our two oldies three years ago, 31 and 33. Skipper, my first pony, I had had for 27 years. When we first got married (20 odd years ago) Harry said he liked the idea of having a horse (if only he had known what a life changer that was to be), we found on old mare, Annie, who was an angel, she was in our family for 16 years until we lost her at 33.
Anyway when he was first looking for a horse he read through the ads in H+H, I remember him now saying ' My God there are people selling twelve year old horses in here, surely if you've had them that long aren't they family by then like a dog?'
If only eh???

lisa
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george
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  08:55:09 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I disagree that people only take on some old horses for breeding although I can't speak for them, only ourselves, as most of you know we have acquired Nebraska who is 19 and after vet checks and swabs if she is healthy we see no reason not to breed a foal from her if possible as we absolutely adore her and she has had foals before.... if for any reason she can't breed, we don't mind in the slightest, but a foal from her would be an absolute delight We are also gentling her to be ridden as she is in good health and we see no reason that she can't enjoy some gentle hacking with our others, I hope we don't get slated for this as we love this mare and feel very fortunate to know her. She has made a strong friendship with our other little Arab mare Treebie I'm convinced she knows she is an Arab too

George xxx
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jaj
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  09:40:59 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Of course you won't be slated George because everyone on here knows how much you love and care for your horses . I think it would be wonderful if Nebraska were to have a foal bless her, it would be a lovely continuation of a happy story. K had Sazi when she was 18 (she had had 2 other foals before but a good decade ago) so if they are in good health there should be no problems.

Have you got any recent piccies of her?





Kuraishiya (Maleik el Kheil/Kazra el Saghira) and Sahara Bey (Kuraishiya/WSA Charismma)
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jackiedo
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  11:28:09 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jackiedo to your friends list Send jackiedo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I absolutely think it is in the horses best interest to be registered wether they are bred from or not. For example, it identifies origin and hopefully gives an audit trail. I cannot see why anyone would want to breed a pure bred Arab and then not ensure it is registered. There are enough animals of dubious parentage seeking homes as it is. This does not mean that I am against endorseable registrations "not to be bred from" but that could only be done by the registering body, and of course lifted only with the consent of the breeder. These animals would enjoy all the benefits of registration, could be able to be shown in breed classes, and hopefully any welfare schemes that the breed society may run.
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Callisto
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  11:50:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One of our purebreds is not registered (although I have his dam's covering cert), he's a gelding so breeding wasn't an option, and I didn't buy him as a show horse so it didn't bother me much. I bought him for his beauty. Apparently he wasn't registered because he was the mare's last foal, and his elderly owner's husband died around the time he was born, and things just slid - there can be many reasons why a horse is not registered.

Being registered only helps if the paperwork stays with the horse, and people keep the paperwork up to date. When you are dealing with horses that get into dire straits, often they don't even have a passport (which of course can have been issued by a number of bodies, not just the AHS). The issues surrounding the impounding and attempted sale of the Haworth Arabs shows the problems that occur when the paperwork goes missing. Look at the number of posts that we get on the site from people who have rescued arabs with no paperwork, trying to find out who they are.

Everything else we have is registered by the way.


Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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Edited by - Callisto on 19 Apr 2011 12:05:00 PM
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