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MinHe
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 Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 4:15:12 PM
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...that not enough people came forward this year to fill all the places on Council? It says a lot about the present state of things.
Keren
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Quarabian
Platinum Member
Wales
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 7:55:29 PM
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And although lots of people have looked no one has replied!!!!
Sad indeed. |
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pintoarabian
Gold Member
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MinHe
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 8:55:21 PM
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Think it says it all that no-one is interested in this topic either!
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Callisto
Platinum Member
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 9:00:04 PM
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| I am interested, however I am not a member of the AHS, so not qualified to comment... |
  Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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Delyth
Gold Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 9:44:36 PM
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| Yes it does seem to be a very sad state of affairs Keren. I know you stood as did I and now I have no interest whatsoever :( Where has the enthusiasm gone....... |
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georgiauk
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 9:50:02 PM
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Enthusiasm, huh it's been beaten into a submissive hibernation !
I'm sure most people feel after the events of the past few year, What's the Point !!!
Like most organizations they pertain to listen to the members then do just what they bloody well like so long as it suits or benefits the top dogs ! |
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weirton
Gold Member
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 10:22:36 PM
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How I agree with all that has been said. There's only so much abuse the membership can take IMO and I'm trying hard to raise some interest in the future of the Society but although I always have voted, this time it hasn't even crossed my mind to do so.
Apathy? no disgust!
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lisa rachel
Gold Member
Wales
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 08:08:18 AM
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Have the voting papers arrived? I must check my membership is up to date as I haven't had mine. The AHS is our breed society, responsible for the protection and promotion of the Arab horse in this country. It is, or should be, what we make it. We are all responsible for it's success or otherwise. I am aware of the problems of the past (and recent past) and I am NOT throwing stones as I have done nothing (except support ridden events and co-write one very short magazine article  ), at this point in my life further commitments are out of the question, maybe in the future....
There are people who, from what I read on here, I would certainly support if they stood for council .... anyone??
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alistair leslie
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 09:04:52 AM
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The structure needs to be changed to a parliamentery system wher local candidates represent the regions .
With the cost of deisel and show costs there should be more interest in showing locally .
That way everyone wins and the AHS thrives . |
    
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weirton
Gold Member
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 10:25:38 AM
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You're absolutely right Lisa, the Society should be what we, the members, make of it but it doesn't work like that. We have voted four times not to take on the French ruling for our Anglos but, as I understand it, still the Society is affiliated and our prospective Council Members attending the CIAA meetings.I just hope we are not paying the expenses and affiliation fee.(No doubt the accounts will show this?)How is that taking notice of what the membership want?
It will be interesting to see if the subject rears it's head again in the interest of the biased few of whom most don't even breed Anglos as their first love.
Sorry to rant, call it frustration. I feel the fight getting back in there.Perhaps I'll open my envelope now.
Jean
PS If we have voting forms and any nominated person wants my vote please feel free to call and convince me of your commitment to the Anglo cause.
J
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Kazzy
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 10:52:41 AM
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Its probably one of those jobs that you really cant win at!!
If you dont do enough your not good enough in some peoples eyes and if you do to much your bottomlicking!!
I wouldnt do it and fair play to those that do.
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SueN
Bronze Member
England
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 11:01:55 AM
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In answer to Jean re. the Anglo situation.
Yes, the society is still paying a subscription to the CIAA as associate members, which I believe costs the society around £300.00. It is mentioned on page 7 of Report and Accounts. There was representation from the AHS at the last CIAA meeting.
Please don't get me started on this, we are still furious that after two years work, nothing has been achieved, or changed. We are still in the position that, at any time, Council could call for another vote to change our definition of an Anglo.
What is missing in the report and accounts 2010, is any reference to the Goodhew report. How much longer do members have to wait to see the report - let alone know the cost and outcome.
With all that has happened during the last few years, I am very close to walking away from the society for ever, and that is after 40 years of membership. |
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weirton
Gold Member
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 11:12:47 AM
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Thanks for clarifying that Sue and you mention the Goodhew report, is that the report on the investigation into the handling of the cruelty issue and the allegations against one of our International judges?
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SueN
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England
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weirton
Gold Member
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 12:01:01 PM
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I've just opened my envelope and see my voting has been done for me. A poor show indeed.
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lottieherts
Silver Member
England
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 1:12:17 PM
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I could not believe there were so few standing for Council. I think Alistair's idea is a good one...May be worth submitting to the AHS? It would certainly be beneficial to the breed and society if the Regional Groups had a direct link via Council, to Windsor House and filtered information back to the membership, I am certain this would leave membership feeling more included.
Would we have PQ'S on a Weds? 'Presidents Questions....This is said tongue in cheek by the way 
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weirton
Gold Member
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 2:24:29 PM
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I seem to remember, many years ago, each Regional Group had to have a Council member as a go between. I wonder why that was stopped?. As most groups are not actually affiliated to the AHS I suppose it would be difficult to insist on this now.
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Jude
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 4:38:47 PM
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I have not been on here for quite a while but having received my voting papers I was most surprised to see how few nominations there have been for Council, and also that the Chairman is not standing for re-election. This is a very sad state of affairs and what surprises me most is that those who have been most critical of the AHS have not had the courage of their convictions and stood for election. This terrible apathy could well signal the demise of the AHS - surely some of the "newer" breeders are interested in what happens to the society - an injection of new blood could be just what is needed.
By the way, historically the AGM has always been in London on alternate years (the majority of members live in the Southern half of England and the northern meeting was started in an attempt to keep the northern members happy). Why on earth is it in Northampton this year - hardly a London/South of England venue? |
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Jude
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weirton
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 5:07:27 PM
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Thanks Jude,
Obvious really. I can't think why I didn't think of that. Losing the plot I think (or the will to live).
I agree new blood needed and a good shake up.
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templars
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 7:15:19 PM
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I'll definitely be voting - always have and always will whilst I'm a member. I feel it's my duty as a member and even if people I vote for aren't elected then at least I've tried. To misquote - all it takes for some to succeed is for others to do nothing.
I'm a little intrigued about the nomination and voting process though - can someone please enlighten me? How do you nominate someone and when does the nomination have to be in? I can think of a couple of people I'd definitely like to nominate (with their permission of course) but I don't know what the process is. But if I know what and when, I'll definitely nominate for next time round. |
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lisa rachel
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Wales
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 7:41:01 PM
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| Well said Templars, we get who we vote for. |
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kimzi
Gold Member
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 9:45:37 PM
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| Unfortunateley i can understand the lack of candidates, we have just had our local riding club AGM ( i shall not mention names lol), we have gone from a commitee of 4 to 9, i swore that i would not stand for commitee but have taken the unenviable position of chair and it is a thankless task, i have already put in far too many hours for my own good and am sick to death of the indecision and squabbling caused by those on commitee who are activeley competitive and out for their own gain and not the interests of the general membership, i am close to the point of resignation and this is a small organisation nothing at all in comparison to the AHS. |
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jamie
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Scotland
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 9:56:15 PM
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| I joined the AHS when I first got my boy out of curiosity more than anything else. They cashed my cheque but beyond that nothing was received. I didn't, obviously, renew. I have no idea what this organisation is supposed to represent nor any idea of it's function. Just a note of my experience. |
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MinHe
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 11:25:23 PM
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Some of us have come forward in order to try to represent the majority of the membership, but sadly have not got anywhere. The so-called 'People's Voice' was unfortunately no such thing, which is why a number of us would not associate ourselves with it. And I think the events of the last few years have been a major 'turn off' for many who would like to see change but have no realistic hope of achieving it.
I don't think the voting structure will change any time soon, as the status quo is so obviously in favour of those presently in power. "By their actions ye shall judge them."
Jamie, your experience was inexcusable. The AHS deserves to fade into oblivion if it can do no better than that.
I don't blame the staff at Windsor House, but the policymakers who could do so much more, yet chose not to serve the grassroots who actually pay for the AHS.
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How sad is it...
