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debs
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Posted - 18 Mar 2011 :  07:59:12 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And will no doubt continue as it is for many years to come.... especially as no doubt people will continue to pay for the privilege.

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SueB
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Posted - 18 Mar 2011 :  08:58:45 AM  Show Profile  Send SueB an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add SueB to your friends list Send SueB a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I think Kimzi has hit the nail on the head.
It must be very frustrating to have ideals that will need a committees vote behind you before you can hope to see them happen.
I'm sure some council members sit on their hands wishing they could act alone but it's a committee like any other and I bet so frustratingly slow and at times nothing seems to happen or get done.

Jean if you look at your voting papers there is still a vote needed for one Direct candidate to Shows and Events Committee and of course the two candidates who are standing for president, one of those will need your vote....
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weirton
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Posted - 18 Mar 2011 :  09:21:24 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add weirton to your friends list Send weirton a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Sue, Yes I've done that.

Jean

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alistair leslie
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Posted - 18 Mar 2011 :  09:35:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alistair leslie to your friends list Send alistair leslie a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Grassroots

Council members cannot communicate effectively with members on a low budget
It makes sense to meet to build up the local AHS first and organic growth will follow .
Where for example will new recruits come from ? Potentially from newcomers seeing an Arab for the first time at a local show .
Where are the bodies to grow the Society? Locally
And so on -countless reasons why we must devolve and grow .
The future is about shared values socially , nationally and politically and the AHS is subject to that too.

How difficult would it be to have E Mail news items from Windsor house and the regions ,for example ,generating interest?



blue moon
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Julie Bridges
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Posted - 18 Mar 2011 :  11:25:30 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Julie Bridges to your friends list Send Julie Bridges a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Someone wrote "What is missing in the report and accounts 2010, is any reference to the Goodhew report. How much longer do members have to wait to see the report - let alone know the cost and outcome".


Is this the report about the alleged incident at the Malvern Show 18 months ago? If so why is it still rumbling on? If it was paid for by members' money, surely it should be published - unless the report's findings are too uncomfortable. Shouldn't members be told either way?

I was a bit surprised to see on the voting papers an "x" against the three council nominees. Surely as there are 4 vacancies, then the 3 should be appointed automatically.

Good luck to all the candidates.
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CINDERS
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Posted - 18 Mar 2011 :  12:01:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CINDERS to your friends list Send CINDERS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think both Sue and Alistair have made valid points, committee work is time consuming and when one comes up against constant brick walls very frustrating. Not to mention the expense

Equally I agree with Alistair that those of us, and this is I bleive the majority, who have arabs as a hobby on a budget do not feel that our needs are addressed. When we had the regional groups there was a perfect opportunity to elect a member from each group to attend council and from those members would be elected the various committees. It works for dogs and cats so why not for arabs and ensures that the grassroots views and needs are at least looked at. It also gives the local groups mor incentive to promote the arab if they feel they have a voice and that they are backed up from above anf further can be an effective way of reducing costs.

That said those on council and the committes do work hard for no reward.

Yvonne

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jas
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Posted - 18 Mar 2011 :  4:50:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jas to your friends list Send jas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Someone wrote "What is missing in the report and accounts 2010, is any reference to the Goodhew report. How much longer do members have to wait to see the report - let alone know the cost and outcome".

Can someone please tell me, if council members have had the report since November, why has no statement been issued? Has it been resolved? If so, does anyone know the outcome?

Maybe a copy of the report will be available at the AGM! If not, why not?
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MinHe
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Posted - 18 Mar 2011 :  7:19:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just as a matter of interest, what is the minimum number of votes needed to pass a resolution at the AGM? Is it a fixed number, or just a % of those attending?

Keren
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debs
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Posted - 18 Mar 2011 :  10:04:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the grand scheme of things does this actually matter? It seems to go on and on.
There are far more important things to worry about for a great deal of people... sorry if I am being negative. I guess it's all relative...

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MinHe
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  12:05:39 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It matters that you receive the services that you pay for - and it matters that you should have a say in how the money you pay is spent. I am amongst those with "far more important things to worry about", but I still care about these things.

If the Goodhew report into what happened at Ascot was paid for out of AHS funds, then the membership surely have a right to see it, regardless of its conclusions. Council should be accountable for how they spend the money we give them.

Keren
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Indalo
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  09:17:31 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Indalo's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Indalo to your friends list Send Indalo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Damned if you do, Damned if you don't springs to mind!

Indalo
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BabsR
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  09:39:31 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Valid Question MinHe....."If the Goodhew report into what happened at Malvern was paid for out of AHS funds, then the membership surely have a right to see it, regardless of its conclusions. Council should be accountable for how they spend the money we give them"

as usual......keeping the Members in the dark springs to mind!!

Babs
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Edited by - BabsR on 19 Mar 2011 3:14:05 PM
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Sadika
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  09:52:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sadika to your friends list Send Sadika a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Am I missing something here - what happened at Ascot?

Marilyn


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SueN
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  11:35:17 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SueN to your friends list Send SueN a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Slight Freudian slip me thinks!

I'm sure that MinHe meant Malvern
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MinHe
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  11:51:26 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, Sue is right - I'm showing my age, LOL!

Keren
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Delyth
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  12:00:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wishful thinking from Keren I think !!

I take very little notice of anything AHS these days so I must admit I thought the Goodhew report had been published - obviously not !! How much did it cost does anyone know ?? Just wondered how many of my registrations paid for it !!
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phoenixbruka
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  12:34:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit phoenixbruka's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add phoenixbruka to your friends list Send phoenixbruka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
[right]Originally posted by alistair leslie


Grassroots

Council members cannot communicate effectively with members on a low budget
It makes sense to meet to build up the local AHS first and organic growth will follow .
Where for example will new recruits come from ? Potentially from newcomers seeing an Arab for the first time at a local show .
Where are the bodies to grow the Society? Locally
And so on -countless reasons why we must devolve and grow .
The future is about shared values socially , nationally and politically and the AHS is subject to that too.

How difficult would it be to have E Mail news items from Windsor house and the regions ,for example ,generating interest?


[/quote

I think this is a really good idea and very valid point

susie


www.liveryatcordwell.co.uk
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garnet
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  2:55:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add garnet to your friends list Send garnet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I always voted during the 20 years I was a member but eventually, when yet another letter to the AHS went unacknowledged, I realised I was wasting my money, particularly as a PBA owner. I find it very sad that the AHS has changed so much since I first became a member in 1987.

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debs
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 :  8:11:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry Keren, was being negative knickers last night, had some bad news! It's good that you care, just hope it makes a difference

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