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Smiler
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 Posted - 18 May 2011 : 11:30:38 AM
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yes lyndathey did have apayout you are correct but i have a feeling thismay be used on the dogs and cats more dont quote me on that though  we must not forget they have 600 + cats and dogs to feed and shelter i think that money should be used to improve facilities at there shelter but they also toldme they had not decided what to use it on yet so no ideawhere it willbe used ! |
   
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 18 May 2011 : 11:52:16 AM
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Sue, I initially got involved with ESMA to see what could be done for the horses, they have been wonderful but I think the fact that they are mainly a small animal rescue , and they were not equipped to help the working animals only,
this has overwhelmed them!
I thought that when they amalgamated with these other charities things would start to look up and they did get the money ,( so I wasn't dreaming it !)
I will carry on with the promises I have made and try to help the horses.
all countries have problems with strays and cruelty to animals, the problem is a mountainous one worldwide, my daughter is very much into rescuing cats and dogs in the states , we have to focus on what we CAN and Cannot do
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 19 May 2011 : 10:20:28 AM
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Look at all the GOOD WORK they are already doing... these photos... speaks volumes.
At least they are feeding those that turn up that are in need and many more. Fed on 14.5.11.
 Fve horses.
Seems as if there are lots & lots who need the help,
 Wonder what this is.
Does the Brooke have Vets and Farrier and Tooth person.. maybe we could ask for these to be sents out to do a stint in the feed station, there lots with wound, saddle sores and eye infections, all that need a Vet....might be worth asking, Brooke, World Horse ot Luke Gamble's Team if its at all possibility. They do need help..
Foot rasps in mouths is a bit desperate to say the least.
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A dog that's may need a leg amputated, and lots and lots of puppies and other badly treated dogs. Thank Goodness the one that was slashed with a sword is looking well now..a changed dog.And the one that was rescued with broken back legs.Here he is Rescued & taken by car by Mousafa..Now in safe hands... s:
And this last week the ESMA Yard got the big canopy for the shade..all the dogs are now covered.
I think it's a good idea to try to find out who supplied the nice headcolours from over there, maybe we could buy a few to keep those chains going.....I'm sure ESMA would be delighted to dish them out on feed days..old chains for new headcolours.
Let me know whats you think.
Cheers Sue ( I still can only look at Facebook).
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 22 May 2011 : 10:08:52 AM
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Things looking brighter for Na'Na.+ Poor horse from the feed day.
From Marte in Egypt.
Marte Kjoell
And for the Na'na' followers, she is finally eating standing up! Yay! Also her front legs are getting straighter every day, thank God.
 Na'Na improving each day now.
 Feed Day Yesterday 21.5.11. Giza Egypt. What next...
I thought I had seen it all now, until this horse showed up today with loops of rope and wire through his skin. They believe it`s cure for something, I heard to drain out fluids... Didn`t get the whole story as I was mostly concerned about documenting this and then I had to paint other horses, maybe somebody else can fill in. Our Vet spoke to them...
Matre- Egypt yesterday/ 21.5.11.
ESMA link:
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Rozy.( more pics soon from feed day 21.5.11.) |
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Smiler
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Posted - 22 May 2011 : 11:15:46 AM
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marte said the vets tried to explain this was an old wives tale to relieve puss or something to drain it away  i just hope the vet got through to the owner but probably not !!!! esma are also struggling space wise for the dogs etc they have been the only one as far as i am aware that carried on taking animals through the crisis and i now think they are paying the price by too many there are more cases daily of injured dogs seems never ending |
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jackiedo
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Posted - 22 May 2011 : 11:30:46 AM
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| I hate to say this, but sometimes would it not be better to just give these abused, malnourished and injured dogs that no one wants a peaceful end rather than adding to the massive number of strays in "shelters" that are never going to get homes? They are clearly not a nation of animal lovers, I look at the horrors that happen here, and we are supposed to be, and I wonder what long term future is there for these poor animals |
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Smiler
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Posted - 22 May 2011 : 1:31:18 PM
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| there are many animal lovers in egypt so many are trying to help these animals weather its horses dogs or cats they have a lot of people trying to change laws in that country it will be a long road to change laws and peoples ways but surely its better to try to help to change things than do nothing , also regarding the peace ful end many of these shelters are religious so taking an animals life is up to god and no one else to play god, i know many are fed up seeing these horrible sites but when i see an animal that looks beyond help and they bring it back to full health that brings a smile to me face and restores my faith in humans ( well some ) |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 01:14:43 AM
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URGENT APPEAL.Latest From ESMA & Egypt.
Horse feed 21-05-11
URGENT PLEASE READ
Please be aware that not everybody in the photographs is direc...tly connected with the horse. We have many Egyptian helpers on the day.
I was unable to stay the whole day on Saturday. What was very apparent was that the number of horses that came was a lot more than we have seen for 3 weeks? There are a few reasons for this,
Brooke have stopped their feeding days, tourist numbers visiting from Europe were down, The Easter and half term holidays are over, the temperature is steadily rising to uncomfortable.
This meant the small rations that we give out were in high demand. It is now entering the “Low season” from May to September is widely acknowledged as a time when tourist numbers are always low. It is very hot and not contusive with spending time in the desert. Just as we thought we were winning the battle it now seems like we have a longer haul than we first expected.
It is very sad that we have to announce that we only have funding to be able to hold 2 more horse feeding days and that is based on us only dealing with the 400 horses we have seen the last four weeks.
We really appreciate all the support we have received, it costs around £1,400 or $2,100 a week to supply feed for these animals. We will have exhausted all the funding we have received in 2 weeks time. As you can see there are still a lot of desperate cases that need your support. We have managed to build up a lot of trust and have made great in roads into the education of many people in the area, rather than have to stop we need to cement these bonds. We cannot walk away now.
Please spread the word and please if you can spare something it would be so beneficial. If you can make a donation it is very important that you mark you donation FOR THE HORSES. This is so we can identify where it is pledged too.
We have also engaged the services of Dr Mohammed a Vet he will be on hand every Saturday for as long as we can carry on. He has a huge knowledge of equine problems and will be there first hand to help the sick and needy horses.
ESMA Egypt.
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http://www.esmaegypt.org/
copied from facebook.
Photo's Colin Ball.
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 09:02:04 AM
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this is horrendous Sue, they cant just walk away now!
to be honest I havent seen much in the way of improvement in the condidtion of the horses, are they only being fed on the feed days? does that mean they dont get to eat on the other days? what happened to the amalgamation of the other charities? why are they not helping? what happened to the large payout recently recieved? |
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Smiler
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 11:01:48 AM
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lynda i think the 3 charirties came together to write a document and thinggs regarding the dog thrown off the bridge and other cruelity things not to help each other with feeding etc , and they dont want to walk away as they say but if there is no money left for the horses what can they do i know they have had a payout but im sure its going to good use maybe medical things and food for the dogs and cats they are in a desperate situation at the moment anything we can do to help would be of benefit to them we really need to make sure your do comes of lynda otherwise i dont know
p.s no they are fed on the day and take food with them but as said new cases turn up all the time i do think a large proportion do look better than they did just some dont seem to improve much or the new ones are bad |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 11:21:02 AM
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I have found out that the money they got for the cat smile thing is going into building a new animal shelter ! but that will be for the small animals , not the horses and donkeys |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 11:27:25 AM
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also I dont see how our gala event will happen as we have only sold 70 tickets and thats only on a promise, we havent actually sold them or taken the money ! no one has paid up apart from a handful ! I have asked them to give me the UK contact they said would help posting the halters ( they weigh a ton !) no answer so far ! |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 12:17:00 PM
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DREAR GOD IN HEAVEN ! if you are there at all ,please dont let this mare return to work , please dont let them put a saddle back on her , if there is any mercy left on this earth please dont turn away from her .
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 12:30:36 PM
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I would put money on the fact this is pure bred Arabian, possibly
sold cheaply or even given away from a local Arabian stud( this can happen when they cull their rejects) Possibly too long in the back for breeding? ) take a good look would you want your horses to end up like this?
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 1:05:05 PM
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Brooke Pulls Out and Wants No Part of FEEDING them....so where do they go from here. They will STARVE to Death..as they were in February right under every ones noses.
Thank Goodness we are seeing what is happening and ESMA are/have done their best, what we see is the Truth, these pictures are just a few days old and tell the precise story of the state of affairs in Giza.
How can the Brooke ignore these horses, how can they say there is no need, Bones sticking out, Open backs and open wounds, they are there for everyone to see. Take a good look, Brooke say everything here is fine and no animal is starving to death. What is the point in Brooke having a station out in Cairo, if it's not working for the horses & Donkeys, what is the good of everyone in GB paying into the Brooke, when the animals are looking like this and not getting the Brooke Support.
Thank God for ESMA,
Send your Money to ESMA without delay, they are the only folks volunteers feeding these horse now.. Brooke' dropped out..all the photographs on the Brooke site are from February... and don't tell the up to date position/story. Brooke' dropped out..all the photographs on the Brooke site are from February... and don't tell the up to date position/story.
What do you want them to do Lynda.
Rozy.
Please do the right thing and Send your spare money here:-
ESMA.Link You can also pay direct with your Pay pal. which goes straight to ESMA at Egypt.
http://www.esmaegypt.org/
Account for UK Donation.
HSBC (UK) Bank.
Sort Code: 403412
Account: 81868349
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 1:13:41 PM
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| Sue I have sent a zipped attachment of all the wretched horses to the press at the Brooke and asked them to step in, I dont know if they will but we have to try something ! |
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jackiedo
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 2:06:02 PM
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| this is disgusting. I don't know what the answer is to be honest, the BEST thing would be for these owners to take responsibility for their own animals, very few of the owners look hungry |
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 2:22:30 PM
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| If all the animals were culled they would only be replaced (and personally I would rather cull the owners). Tourist trade is looking up which makes my heart sink... |
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jackiedo
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 2:32:44 PM
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| I was referring to "unwanted" and seriously injured cats and dogs, not potential working animals. I would love to see more direct feeding rather than giving bags to take away, that could be sold on |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 23 May 2011 : 5:27:42 PM
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Jacki,There is nothing disgusting about it..or maybe just the one thing..The Brooke was set up by Dorothy Brooke in 1932-1934 to help the Egyptian horses. Today (since 20th April) the Brooke have pulled out and stopped feeding..when we can all see there is still A GREAT NEED.....
You need to read the whole story which started in February after the riots and the folks in the pics don't look like owners to me, except two children.
We are all desperately trying to help this situation, negative thought are not going to help. Donations,for food,treatment,education and learning will. If they don't get more money to continue the feeding, many of these horses and donkeys will die..They wont need any programme then.
We all love horses.. and don't forget Britain left hundreds of horses out there to suffer after the first world war...Many of these horses could be descendants of the British War Horses. Horse were commandeered to serve the country, 700 went from one small village in Yorkshire.
Donations Please.
http://www.esmaegypt.org/
HSBC (UK)
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sasha
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Posted - 24 May 2011 : 10:27:32 AM
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Just wondering if Princess Aliyah is aware that ESMA's money is running out.. thought she was going to get involved with these poor horses?? |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 25 May 2011 : 02:12:27 AM
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Can you let her know Sasha??
Just had my first donation handed over tonight £50 on its way to ESMA and the starving horses..Keep it coming folks, they'll be a long time dead..
Thank You
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LYNDILOU
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Smiler
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Posted - 28 May 2011 : 10:46:45 AM
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Dear all,
ESAF is continuing to hold three clinics a week at the Pyramids area,
animals were fed and treated.The situation in the Pyramids are was
starting to look better a number of tourists were seen in the area,
however due to the widely publicized unrest between Moslem's and
Christians the situation has returned to how it was just after the
revolution, 80% of the tourist who had intended to travel to Egypt canceled.
We learned recently that Brooke did not fulfill their intention to feed
the needy animals, as they agreed and they have not fed any animals
since my last report a month ago.
ESAF was fortunate to receive a recent donation a member which has
allowed us to make some animal accessories which will be distributed
free, i.e. nose bands, fly masks, camel tail guards and hawaya ( saddle
pads), all are demonstrated in the attached photos.
Today the 26th May ESAF held the second work shop in our awareness
program , the program included, complaints received relating to cruelty
to the animals in the area, explaining the content of the the recently
printed leaflet and the folded leaflet aimed at the animal owners and
information regarding how to recognize and prevent common disease. In
addition every person who attended, received 5 Kg of dry ration.
Animals treated over the last month:
972 Horse
263 Camel
720 animals were fed
Best regards
Ahmed El Sherbiny
ESAF Chairperson
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