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Pasha
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 Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 10:23:12 PM
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Firstly thank you all for the support and friendship following my post earlier! I am truly overwhelmed!!!
The vet has been and Shesky is sore on all 4 feet - he "suspects" low grade Lami as he doesn't have any pulses and is non-responsive to hoof testers! He does react to pressure in the coronary band though!
I am in shock and cannot believe I'm going through this all again!
Of course he is 14 and it's January so he's taken bloods and he's told me to start him on Pasha's pergolide!
18 months ago he had 2 ACTH tests and both were negative but he has always drunk alot and weed alot since I got him. He also doesn't have hollows above his eyes (but not fat pads either).
Just can't believe it! And feel utterly utterly helpless as he already has soaked hay and a Lami diet - poor little mite had his speedi beet reduced from a mug between 2 feeds to just a spoonful (just in case), but now feel
Guilty as he isn't fat... Not sure what to do!
Sarah x
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Callisto
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Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 11:00:33 PM
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| I am so sorry, only hope that it is a very mild case and that he recovers very quickly. |
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jaj
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Posted - 17 Jan 2011 : 11:54:26 PM
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Sarah don't feel guilty. You poor thing you obviously care deeply for your horses and sure that it is nothing you have done or not done that has brought on this attack of laminitis. You only have to read on here how many cases there are around at the moment  .
Not sure starting him on Pergolide is much use though if he hasn't got Cushings? Sorry just that my friend whose mare had lami did the same and her vet thought it was a waste of time and just spaced the horse out whilst disguising symptoms.
Really feel for you  .
Hope tomorrow brings better news  .
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Pasha
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 06:50:48 AM
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I have to wait until Thursday for the results, but the vet said giving a healthy horse Pergolide for a few days won't hurt him, but that if he does have Cuahings, the sooner the hormones are under control the better.
I have to trust my vet, I don't have anything else! And whilst we went to hell and back with Pash, he is still with us 2 years on and enjoying his little life, so I have to hold onto that x |
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mogwai
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 07:23:45 AM
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Oh Sarah, I am so sorry. This is NOT your fault though!
There are so many horses with lami at the moment. There have been HUGE changes in the grass for this time of year, the temperatures have been below anything we're used to in this country and this all efects their feet. Combined with change of routine and lack of exercise for many due to the conditions....and now it's WARM so the grass is growing.
I went through similar feelings when my little 2 year old welsh mountain pony got lami. She's never been over weight and always had a lami diet and been on restricted grazing because i was aware of her breed susceptibility. It took me ages to get her diagnosed because vets and farriers wouldn't believe she could have it because she wasn't overweight and only so young. She then got it again as a 3 year old! I was devastated.
There is always a reason (with mary it was the farmer spot spraying the docks in the summer with the horses in the field and not telling me!!!!), and it sounds as though cushings may be his. As you know with Pasha, it IS manageable. Don't despair, keep positive for him. You can get him through this.
Loads of love to you and your lovely boy.
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saddlebred
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 07:24:04 AM
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Oh Sarah. You so dont deserve this with everything you have been through with Pasha. Hold on to the fact that he has said "mild" and wait and see what the bloods show.
Your boys are so lucky to have you. Big hugs x |
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Slave 2 Magic
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 08:43:19 AM
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| I am so sorry to hear Shesky's diagnosis. We do all we can to ensure the health of our horses and still sometimes these things happen. Pasha is testament to your dedication and I know Shesky is lucky to have you. Fingers crossed for the test results on Thursdsay.I will be thinking of you both.xx |
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Kazzy
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 09:25:21 AM
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So sorry to hear this its the last thing you or anyone wants or needs.
I have noticed though that the grass is coming through, I shut of a field at my place because i thought 18 acres were to much for 4 horses anywway I went in yesterday to check things over and couldnt beleive the growth in grass in about 3 weeks of it not being eaten. And also this horrid cold snap we have had could have lead to him getting him Laminitis, I always used to stable bandage my mare up when it was sub zero temperatures just to be ont he safe side and made sure she was cozy warm.
Good luck. You have the experience (unfortunately! not meant in a bad way) to deal with this and he will get better.
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 09:39:36 AM
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Don't feel guilty you have done nothing wrong, I know Lami is awful but sounds like his had a mild attack so hopefully will make a full recovery, and at least if it is cushings you now know as if left you know he could have had a bad attack of Lami and been worse off, I don't really know you Pasha but I know you obviously care and look after your horses, I know how you must feel my mare had Laminitis two years ago and I lost her,she started to colic whilst she was on box rest with it but I had a useless vet looking back I think she had cushings but I didn't know much about it.
I know you went through this with Pasha but at least you know what your dealing with and your vet sounds very good, please try not to worry I will keep my fingers crossed for you. xx |
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Eeyore
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 09:51:25 AM
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Oh no, I really feel for you and Shesky. I have to echo everyone else as well, I don't think your boys could have a better owner, your love and dedication always comes across. Fingers crossed for you 
My boy is showing mild lameness and I have the vet coming first thing tomorrow. They told me how many cases of laminitis they are treating at the moment so now I'm really worried it could be that |
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Pasha
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 10:22:55 AM
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Thank you everyone - I am always amazed how supportive this lovely forum is (although you would think I would be used to it by now)!
Their little 'postage stamp' is barely half an acre of old meadow grass... we moved them just over a year ago now so that they could always have their own little paddock and permanent restricted grazing and no rye grass (one of my vets biggest bug bears with grazing in the SE)... bless them, even in Spring their little field has barely a centimetre of grass  and then of course they only go out 9 to 3 (although in high summer we let them stay out until 6pm and they thoroughly enjoyed it).
They don't go out on the frost and always have a small but high fibre breakfast to line their tummies... I really did think I had thought of everything!
I weight tape them both religiously and since Shesky lost weight after his first attack, he has maintained within 10Kg of his 'skinny' weight... everyone always says when he puts on a couple of Kgs that he is looking so much better as he always looks a little on the slim side, because I just can't risk them getting fat! But they are both shiny and silky coated... just can't believe it!
Last night I had to tie him outside on the concrete whilst I added extra shavings and sorted out his bedroom - he was happily licking the wall (a favourite past time of his) and resting a hind leg so that's a good sign!
The vet has only given him 1 Danillon twice a day for 4 days and then 1 a day after that, whereas before he had Finadyne and Sedalin so he must be as mild as he says... wish I did have some Sedalin though as he already destroyed a bucket yesterday and managed to cut his face - god knows what I will find today and his toys haven't turned up yet!!! |
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jaj
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 10:28:20 AM
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It sounds as though you couldn't do any more if you tried, lucky horses having you to care for them. I think you are just really unlucky and especially given the weather we have had this winter it is not so surprising.
Really hope that it passes over soon and that the weather and grass stabilise a lot more .
Sending positive thoughts .
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garnet
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 12:50:33 PM
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| So sorry to hear you are going through this. There is always this 'bad mother' thing with lami and I couldn't believe it when Red succumbed last May, particularly as Jim the Cob had also had it several years ago. Red is barely back in work now with the weather having got in the way and although we are being very careful with feed and turnout all the lami cases we are hearing about are very worrying! On a positive note, our Jim came back into work after his lami and was brilliant until a pedunculated lipoma took him only 3 weeks after the show in my sig pic. Thinking of you and everyone else in lami hell at the moment - fingers crossed! |
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sazzlepants71
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 1:59:51 PM
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hi sarah, I cant believe this! poor you and of course shesky, we all know how much you adore your boys so dont blame yourself xx
lets keep our fingers crossed for the results on thursday and lots of healing vibes heading your way xxxx |
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Pasha
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Tzarina
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 2:17:50 PM
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Sarah, just caught up with this thread, so sorry to hear of latest problems, but as others have said you have the experience to be able to cope with it, your regime doesnt sound as if it could be any better.
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Zan
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 3:08:56 PM
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| Shesky is lucky to belong to you because you are going to do everything possible to get him right, and you are so knowledgeable about this horrible condition. |
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Pasha
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 3:27:28 PM
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Thank you both, but I doubt Shesky would agree! I know tonight I will get a full blown snake face and ill only be forgiven if I play twisty neck/kiss nose/gobble the hair band... all good fun until he takes it that one step too far, and I get nipped! He is so funny, but so impatient it is untrue and woe betide me if I dare to brush him  Wish me luck... it's like entering the dragons lare  |
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Milotkha
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 5:08:44 PM
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Hey Sarah.
Sending get well hugs to Shesky.
Sounds as though he is getting lots of love and care.
Keep us updated on his recovery.
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xsara
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 6:38:18 PM
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| I hope sheskey recovers quickly and you can get it under control before any real damage is caused. it is not your fault and can be so hard to find out the actual cause sometimes hopefully the blood test will shed some light. It was around this time last year honey took her bout of lami total supprise when she got it and was linked to a sensitive tummy which she stressed about. |
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jaj
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 6:49:17 PM
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Did his toys arrive  ? |
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Alisonm
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 8:21:57 PM
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| Hope Shesky gets well soon. Sending him healing vibes. |
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Pasha
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angelarab
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 09:44:32 AM
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| Just to say i am thinking about you and the boys and sending lots of positive healing vibes and hugs, |
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Pasha
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 10:07:34 AM
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Aw thanks... currently sitting by the phone as apparently Liphook have sent through some results that were sent off the same time as Shesky's so they're chasing to see if the have Sheskys... the suspense is killing me!!!
Vet said they are all sick to death of Lami, Cushings, IR, EMS... that is all they get called out about and he said, and not to make light of it, but their newest vet was excited yesterday as she got a 'nail in the foot' as it was something different! He said they were all ponies/small horses and Arabs! He puts it down to the shorter daylight hours being the trigger... we have daylight lights for Pasha, so looks like Shesky will be going fluorescent as well! |
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 10:59:53 AM
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| blimey , short day light has been happening for ions! laminitis has been rife this winter and it seems no one is safe, so please dont be blaming yourself. Shaheena is a bit on the lardy side so I guess I am to blame for her lami , although I am assured by the vet that this is happening all over despite the size of the horses . she is now out in the sandschool after a week of stable and is sound , but will stay off the grass until vet thinks otherwise , also on a very strict diet of 12 hour soaked hay ( leeches all the sugars out apparently) and happy hoof in small quantities . so we will get there in the end. |
   
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