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wgs
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Posted - 07 Jan 2011 :  6:04:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wgs to your friends list Send wgs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have recently acquired a gelding out of the Spanish mare Kar Hacina and am trying to find out a little more about her as am not very knowledgeable on the Spanish lines....just wondering if anyone can offer any information??

Thankyou!
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Callisto
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Posted - 07 Jan 2011 :  6:38:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Found this on Aklah Arabians website (googled Kar Hacina)

SHAMIL’s dam is the excellent Spanish mare KAR HACINA, a daughter of the exceptional sire EL PERFECTO, she gained Championship honours at the shows Moos, Germany and Marbach, Germany, won her class at the European Championships, and achieved a third place at the All Nations Cup in Aachen, Germany. KAR HACINA is the image of her dam, the Nations Cup reserve and international mare GUAL HASSIKA, one of the most beautiful mares ever to leave Spain.

There is a photo of her on this website, but there are a lot of hits for her, one says that she is owned by a farm in Dubai, and her full sister was sold to South Africa.


Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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Edited by - Callisto on 07 Jan 2011 6:42:32 PM
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Ennik
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Posted - 07 Jan 2011 :  6:38:33 PM  Show Profile  Send Ennik an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Ennik to your friends list Send Ennik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Afraid can't help you with Spanish lines.... but welcome to AL from Wales.... .....Rose Ennik
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justine
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 :  11:55:54 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add justine to your friends list Send justine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi, she was bred by my friend and INTL `a` list judge DR Niko Jung in Germany. I remember her well, very beautful and great mover. She had a foal by my stallion Jazzmeen then I do believe she was sold to the Middle East.
I will ask Dr Jung later today for more info.

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wgs
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 :  6:56:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wgs to your friends list Send wgs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Justine,

Many thanks for this, anything else you can find out ie where she is now etc or any other foals she has had would be great, any pics would be fab too! I understand that my boy was imported as a foal from Germany so that would make sense.

Thanks, Sarah
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justine
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 :  09:48:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add justine to your friends list Send justine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whats the name and sire of your gelding?

jbassindale
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doug ault
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 :  10:49:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit doug ault's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add doug ault to your friends list Send doug ault a Private Message  Reply with Quote
D SAHABAH F 2009 WH JUSTICE KAR HACINA

HACINAS GLORIA gr M 2006 ALISHAAR EL BRI KAR HACINA

SHAMIL4 gr C 2000 SHIR KHAN3 KAR HACINA

allbreed pedigree has these three listed

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wgs
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 :  9:17:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wgs to your friends list Send wgs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My gelding is Shamil, the last on the list!
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Callisto
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 :  9:40:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Then the link I spoke about earlier is about your boy, with a lovely headshot


http://arabian-horse-uk.com/horses/geldings/spike/

hope it's ok to post this link Rui, if not please remove

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Linda
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loosefur
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Posted - 10 Jan 2011 :  12:37:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loosefur to your friends list Send loosefur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know Shamil very well as he stayed with me for a few months in 2009. He's a sweetie. Hope you enjoy him.
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szedlisa
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Posted - 10 Jan 2011 :  2:52:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add szedlisa to your friends list Send szedlisa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to the darasource SHAMIL was exported to the UK from Germany as a yearling in 2001 and was bred by RUDI AND CHRISTEL KRAUS. Unfortunately it only shows one foal sired by him AKLAH FANTASIA born in 2005.


You have most of the information on SHAMIL´s dam already. KAR Hacina is in Dubai and has recently won the Championship Mare Class. You will find pics of her and many of her relatives at my flickr website on Spanish Arabians:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/szedlisa/sets/72157601885575419/with/822844937/

There is also listed produce at Niko´s pdf doc on Gual Hassika which includes all her progeny´s whereabouts and get.
http://www.kar-hof.eu/resources/Gual_Hassika.pdf

I owned Gual Hassika´s dam and sire and having bred Pepete to Adelfa, I sold Adelfa to Maria Teresa Gual in foal shortly before she foaled down. I was moving back to the states from Spain and Adelfa had tested positive for Piro and there was no way we could get her cleared. We did have a yearling clear full sister which we did export. Gual Hassika went on as you know to have a glorious show and broodmare career.

It has been an excellent dam line, continually producing quality stock both for ridden events and breeding.

Enjoy your gelding Shamil. He is quite striking!
Lisa

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alison
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Posted - 10 Jan 2011 :  2:55:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alison to your friends list Send alison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I saw him advertised for sale and thought he looked very striking, lucky you. Welcome to AL
Alison
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wgs
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Posted - 10 Jan 2011 :  6:54:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wgs to your friends list Send wgs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thankyou all for the info (particularly szedlisa for the links)and comments, as you say Loosefur he is an absolute sweetie with quite a character, he has only been with me a few weeks but has settled well and we are having fun with him.

I shall delve a little further with this info, but from the pics I can see where he gets his huge eyes from!

Am hoping to get him out again under saddle this year with possibly a little in-hand so very much looking forward to the start of the season.

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