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Vera
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 Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 3:10:44 PM
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Whatever you do DO NOT LET A HORSE STRAY ONTO YOUR YARD!!!!!
I am absolutely tearing my hair out.
Yard owner calls me mid morning to say that a big black and white horse was loose in the yard. He says that it has pushed its way into the gate breaking a metal 5 bar gate and let himself into my yard.
Not to worry I say I'll be there in 10 minutes.
14 to 14.2hh piebald vanner type stallion loose in my yard. My own stallion going BALISTIC. Me very worried as there is only a post and rail fence between them.
Phone Hampshire Horsewatch. Take pictures send them off. Trawl round local yards and no one is missing a stallion. Police phone me and basically say there is absolutely nothing they can do as the horse is now secure in my yard. I explain that I am very worried that he will get out again. He pushed his way in so he can push his way out. My yard is situated immediately next to a bridle path, anyone riding past could have a stallion hot on their heels. The bridle path leads out onto roads at either end. One road is particularly nasty, no lighting, very fast and loads of blind bends. Police say there is still nothing they can do!!! AND I have to take every possible action to stop the horse getting out or else I could be in trouble!!!!!!!
Thank god my mares are now on the winter grazing right at the back.
I have no-where to put this horse other than loose in the yard. I can't get my horses in from the fields because the stallion is on the yard. Catch 22.
The police say I have to wait 14 DAYS before I can legally get rid of the horse and I have to post notices etc before doing so.
14 DAYS!!!!!!!!! What the hell am I going to do with a stallion loose in my yard for 14 days. My own horses are used to coming in at night. If I put stallion out in the field where am I going to put my horses!!!!!!
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geegee
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geegee
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 3:24:02 PM
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Just a thought, have you spoken to any welfare organisations....perhaps they can help?
I take it this stallion is in an OK condition? Nothing for them to be concerned about?
I really feel for you, Vera. |
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Vera
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 3:42:08 PM
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I've been around the local yards - nothing.
I have contacted the RSPCA AND WHW - nothing.
I have spoken with the Equine Liaison Officer and she is trying to be helpful but no-one wants to take the horse as it is most likely a gypsy type.
I can't let it out again other wise I would get in trouble - the DI was quite specific about that. I have to keep it secure. He broke the metal gate getting in as it was broken and bent inwards.
I have been to the very local gyspy camp and bottled out of going in as it is so rough. The police have sent someone in but like they said they are very unlikely to admit to loosing a horse in case it has caused damage or caused an accident.
The really sad thing is that the horse is really sweet, despite being a stallion. He is VERY friendly, doesn't bite and really wants to be caught. He came trotting up to me when I got there.
I don't have a spare stable that he can go in. If I put him in the field where do I put my horses?
Besides I really can't afford to feed and hay a horse for two weeks that isn't even mine!!! Of course I will not see him go hungry either - arghhhhhhhhhh.
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NatH
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 4:10:00 PM
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| Isn't there a local livery yard that would help you out? |
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jaj
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 4:11:37 PM
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omg Vera you poor thing  !
How about tacking a note up next to your local gypsy camp giving your number and saying that they can come and get him no questions asked. I'm sure that their grapevine will be very efficient.
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 4:31:37 PM
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| Ho awful for you to be given the responsibility, all you can do is ask about I suppose and hope someone claims him if he has just escaped the owners may not have had a chance to report him missing yet, is there no one nearby that can put him up for a while. makes it awkward him being a stallion as well not many people will have them on livery yards. hope you manage to find who he belongs to. |
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Nut
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 4:46:17 PM
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happened on our yard about 2 years ago one winter...police found 8 loose horses in Chertsey, they only knew of our yard so in the early hours of the morning they rounded them through Chertsey, down our yard owners drive and let them loose on the 100 acres. They didnt even knock at her house before doing so, only once the deed had been done.
She rounded them into a field on the property but they were there nearly 3 weeks whilst the owners were looked for and I cant remember how she managed to get them collected by the police and animal charities left her to resolve the issue all on her own. If she hadnt of had 100 acres and a spare field or two what would of happened, all the livery horses stabled so the other horses could fit somewhere? The owner never paid the damage that was done or gave thanks for taking them in after they were found wondering the streets in the early hours. Some people!
Hope it gets resolved quickly for you Vera. |
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Kazzy
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 4:47:22 PM
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Gosh Vera what a parlava!!!
I think Jaj's idea is a good one its worth a try and it could be theirs and they are not owning upto it like the police officer said.
other than that I really dont know what to suggest
What about your local tv/radio station?? might be worth phoning them to see if they would come down for a bit of coverage, that might bring the owner out of their shell, I should imagine if someone had lost their horse the 1st place they would think of contacting would be the police!! It could have been dumped on you!
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 5:22:09 PM
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OH Vera, what a nightmare.I know the police can't do anything and the welfare people don't want to so it is catch 22. I would try going to the gypsy camp and being really nice; if they think you won't cause trouble they should be OK and you just may get rid of the stallion.
If you really can't find any way of getting rid of him would it be possible to put him in a stable during the day and then put him out in one of your fields at night when your horses come in?
I hope it gets sorted soon.
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 5:55:03 PM
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| Really feel for you Vera...and the poor horse, who sounds lovely. |
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templars
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 6:14:22 PM
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Vera, sorry to add to the complications but you're also responsible for getting a passport for the horse.
Happened to us - someone dumped a beautiful little coloured mare on our farm and like you, we phoned everyone - welfare, police, RSPCA, local paper, local radio etc etc etc.
Then the RSPCA told us that it was obvious she had been dumped and as the "keeper" of the horse we would be liable if it didn't have a passport so we had to arrange to have one issued  Thankfully our neighbour fell in love with her and took her (and paid for the passport) and she's now very happily living with them - and having produced a super little foal that was a total surprise.
Whatever you do, try and worm it!
I think with the current economic climate, this type of thing is going to happen more and more. |
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debs
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 6:33:10 PM
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Vera, sorry to add to the complications but you're also responsible for getting a passport for the horse.
Thats just enough to finish you off isn't it. How blooming ridiculous.
Good luck Vera, hope all is sorted soonest... |
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Vera
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 6:59:13 PM
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Well it looks like the visit to the gypsy camp paid off because I was driving to my yard this evening and good job I left work early as there were 2 men (of gypsy type) leading said stallion down the road. I stop and explain why I stopped they say nothing, they look at me like I am an alien. I make a hasty retreat thankful that at least he isn't my problem now.
What worries me now is that they have had a good look at my yard.
I'm glad he's gone but can't help worrying about him now. What if they weren't the owners but thought they's get a free horse although I doubt very much the police would have said where he was. I am so stupid worrying about him but I think I might take a walk at the weekend and see if I can locate him....
Mind you know he knows I've got girlies he might well be back!
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 8:24:24 PM
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I am glad the problem is now resolved as it sounded like a complete nightmare
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MinHe
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 9:28:00 PM
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I would up your security (if possible) for the next few weeks. A friend had a similar experience where the folk at her yard kindly took in a 'loose' gypsy pony, the owners duly came for it - and a couple of weeks later the yard was robbed. Surely not a coincidence.
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jaj
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 10:31:01 PM
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| Jeez what a worry. Is anyone living on site? Could you at least ask the police to sit outside for a bit over the next few nights? |
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Vera
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 10:39:01 PM
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| Thankfully the yard owner lives on site - although not in line of sight to the yard. They should have seen the security lights too, but they only come on in the dark. I've got a Hampshire Horsewatch sign and a 'these horses are microchipped and can be indentified by the police' sign. I've also got padlocks everywhere. |
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jaj
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 : 10:45:10 PM
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Takes me right back to when K's mane was plaited, such a horrible feeling knowing that someone has been near or touched your horses. Good that you have the owners living on site, we were the same - security lights, padlocks, radio and lots of noisy Jack Russells!
Hope you sleep ok tonight Vera. |
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 06:55:16 AM
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Just read all of this, thank God he's gone else sounds like you would have really fallen for him. Thank goodness yard owner on site. Law is an ass!! |
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geegee
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 07:25:39 AM
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I don't want to worry you but if 2 men can walk into your yard and back out with a horse, without being stopped, then you definately need to step up your security.
I'm sure that this will be the end of it all now....
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templars
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 08:22:20 AM
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Re passports - that's why they are now micro chipped. The person doing the mark up for a passport is supposed to make sure they don't already have a micro chip and that they haven't been reported stolen.
Before micro chips, that's exactly what happened - multiple passports for stolen horses |
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shah
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 : 10:03:35 AM
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Glad to hear the story ended well for the stallion (or so we think) but would second the advise about upping security.
Last week we had a bath stolen from one of the horse fields in broad daylight between 10 and 12 in the morning (we also have a permanent gypsie site nearby). Horses were in the field, house owners were at home, YO was teaching in the school, gardener was out and about, horse lorries came and went, I sat outside the school watching the lesson and none of us neither saw or heard anything. It was an old cast iron rolltop bath full with water used for the horses to drink out of. Must have been very heavy to empty of water, lift over fence and then into a van... |
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