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kirsty
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Posted - 20 Oct 2010 :  9:40:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add kirsty to your friends list Send kirsty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi
I know some of you have posted on this subject before and having spoken to my vet it seems there have been several instances of Deer attacking horses. When I got back from Belgium I turned my broodmare Burrowshot Lass (Hannah) out with Billy as when she is in foal they live together. When I arrived this morning Billy was in the wrong field so but stood the opposite side to the fence next to Hannah. I went to investigate and found one of the water containers smashed and the handle to the electric broken hence why Billy was in wrong section of his field. Despite calling Hans she wouldn't come to me so I went to investigate. Nothing could of prepared me for the state I found her in. She was covered in blood from head to toe and had multiple puncture wounds on her face and back legs and there was a trail of blood around the field. The largest of these wounds is the size of my fist. I phoned the vets and they straight away got hold of their chief vet Tessa as the foal that Hannah is carrying is Tessa's foal. We got Hans up to the top stables and hosed the wounds/blood off as we needed to see the extent of the damage. She has multiple wounds on her face/back legs and both the vet and I think they have been caused by a deers antlers. Billy didnt have a mark/any blood on him but was definately in shock about something. Hannah is the dominant mare and none of my horses including Billy will mess her about, in fact he asks her permission to enter the stable etc. Billy isnt a brave horse and would of run away from the deer but Hannah would of fought it and it looks like she protected Billy. She is on regular checks and has managed to eat a sloppy feed and a apple but is in severe shock, has raised respiration and pulse and her face is very swollen. The wounds arnt stitchable at the moment and we had to cut off a huge lump of flesh that was hanging out of the wound.

Kirsty
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Lin123
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Posted - 20 Oct 2010 :  10:23:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lin123 to your friends list Send Lin123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear god Kirsty....I've left you a comment "over there" but my thoughts and prayers are with Hannah and her unborn foal.

Linda x
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jillandlomond
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Posted - 20 Oct 2010 :  10:26:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jillandlomond to your friends list Send jillandlomond a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What an absolute nightmare Kirsty. That must have been really terrifying for both Hannah and Billy. Sending positive & healing vibes for Hannah & her foal.


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xsara
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Posted - 20 Oct 2010 :  10:36:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add xsara to your friends list Send xsara a Private Message  Reply with Quote
poor hannah and i hope mum and baby are ok and recovery from their ordeal sending thoughts and healing vibes and hope she pulls through you must be so worried fingers crossed
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kirsty
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Posted - 20 Oct 2010 :  11:57:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirsty to your friends list Send kirsty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi
Thanks everyone, Hannah took a turn for the worse this evening when I did my 10.30pm check on her her stable was a blood bath one of the wounds on her back legs had burst open. Tessa the vet has been and she is stable now and will be checked through the night
Kirsty

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Lin123
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  12:01:28 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lin123 to your friends list Send Lin123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Right there with you Kirsty, please god all will be ok.

Linda x
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moatside
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  06:13:07 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add moatside to your friends list Send moatside a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What a nightmare - I hope that your poor girl is OK!!

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Goldenmane
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  06:43:57 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh poor brave Hannah, hope things are better this morning. I'm shocked to think a deer would attack and cause so much damage.

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Callisto
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  06:57:06 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fingers firmly crossed that she makes a full and speedy recovery and that the foal is fine. I have never heard of this happening before, I am also shocked that a deer could cause so much damage to your poor girl.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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saddlebred
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  07:04:48 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add saddlebred to your friends list Send saddlebred a Private Message  Reply with Quote
omg... poor Hannah. I hope she will be feeling better this morning. I've never heard of this before. What a shock for you and your horses.

Positive vibes sent your way for a full recovery for Hannah and her unborn baby.
Debs

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Suelin
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  08:06:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Suelin to your friends list Send Suelin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Crikey that's dreadful. I do hope that your mare is okay. I know that stags at this time of year can be extremely aggressive to anything and unfortunately fencing that will keep horses in is nothing for them to jump to get to their objective. Fingers crossed for your mare.
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Gucci
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  09:31:11 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gucci to your friends list Send Gucci a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How is Hannah this morning Kirsty?

Rachel
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  09:49:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How horrible I hope Hannah recovers soon, I have never heard of Dear attacking horses, but I know this is there rutting season so maybe they have a tendency to be aggressive, I have seen dear clear our fencing with ease.

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marionpack
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  10:33:24 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marionpack to your friends list Send marionpack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How terrible, hope Hannah and her foal are OK, never heard of this before

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Kelly
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  12:12:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kelly to your friends list Send Kelly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You poor things, all of you. How terrible....

My thoughts are with you all, hope she feels much better soon.

Kelly
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kirsty
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  1:07:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirsty to your friends list Send kirsty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone
Thanks for your good wishes, it has been a long night but Hans is at last stable. She stopped shivering at about 7am but is still in shock. Tessa the vet has been again and we have set up a iv line and given her more pain relief/antibiotics, her respiration is almost normal but her heart rate is raised and irregular, she has managed to eat a few nuts (she didnt want the soaked feed wanted billys racehorse cubes!!) and a bit of hay. We have taken bloods to see what her blood count etc is. We are just trying to keep her warm and quiet, her mucus membranes look ok despite having lost loads of blood. Tessa coming back at 6pm and we will change her dressings then
Kirsty

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clio
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  1:07:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clio to your friends list Send clio a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poor girlie :( i so hope all is going to be well with her and Billy.
But what a worry for you with the deer still out there.


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sab2
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  1:41:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poor mare what an awful ordeal for you and her to go through, sending you healing vibes and will keep my fingers and toes crossed for you.
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sazzlepants71
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  1:56:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sazzlepants71 to your friends list Send sazzlepants71 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
big hugs to you kirsty , praying she will be okay xxx
a friend of mine keeps her horse at livery on windsor park, they are lots of warnings out at the mo to all riders who hack in the park because it is the rutting season and the stags are very agressive,
this is horrible for and I am thinking of you both and hope she continues to improve x

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Nichole Waller
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  2:33:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nichole Waller to your friends list Send Nichole Waller a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poor Hannah, i hope she recovers soon. Sending lots of heeling vibes and hugs.

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Susie T
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  3:07:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Susie T to your friends list Send Susie T a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh gosh what a dreadful shock for you. Poor poor Hannah - I hope she is starting to improve, and that Billly is OK too. xx

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MinHe
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  3:44:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What a horrible thing to happen. Sending positive thoughts your way for Hannah and foalie.

Keren
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precious
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  4:40:26 PM  Show Profile  Click to see precious's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add precious to your friends list Send precious a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OMG what a shock!!!
Sending hugs x
Come on Hannah and foalie you can both do it xx


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Nicky F
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  6:26:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nicky F to your friends list Send Nicky F a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poor Hannah, what an awful shock for you, hugs and positive vibes coming your way :-))
Nicky
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arabian
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  11:21:10 PM  Show Profile  Click to see arabian's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add arabian to your friends list Send arabian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
what a terrible thing to have happened sending you healing thoughts and keeping everything crossed for a speedy recovery x
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kirsty
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  09:01:19 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirsty to your friends list Send kirsty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Everyone
Thank you ever so much for your good wishes. Hannah is slowly improving but we have a long way to go yet, thank god she is strong willed and a fighter (but not a good idea to fight with a deer). Her blood count was very low showing that she had lost a lot of blood she has passed droppings at last and eaten some hay pony nuts. Her pulse is still very high (70) Her face is very swollen which makes it hard for her to get food in/eat and we have found she manages nuts better as she can get them to the back of her mouth easier than sloppy feeds. She is on 2 lots of antibiotics and iv pain relief etc. The vet is coming again later and will be coming daily at least for the next week, she has been great to handle despite being in pain even if she is giving Tessa strange looks at times. Hubby saw 4 roe deer in the field this morning but we think it may of been a seeker deer come in from the woodland opposite that did this to Hannah. A local retired vet who is a deer expert is going to come and try to stalk the deer if he can (he has a open licence./is ministry approved so can shoot in our fields hubby licence isnt open so cant shoot in our fields.
Kirsty

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