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Sahir
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 Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 08:01:24 AM
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Yep - The Daily Mail is the one to contact for sure - they just love reporting/investigating this sort of thing !!!
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angel2002
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 5:06:13 PM
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So does the SUN Jude  , you go girl!!
3 weeks ago, a muntjack (sp?) deer came into our warehouse at work (We are on a busy road) we shut the gates so it wouldn't get hit by a car or lorry and called the RSPCA, after about an hour or so the man arrived, he looked at it from a distance and promptly said that because it was a muntjack (sp?) if he caught it he would have to kill it!!!!!! We said, in no uncertain terms, that he wasn't going to do that so the lads and me stopped all the traffic on both side of the road, opened the gates and waited for it to come out. It ran across the road and down a path leading to a wooded area 
Again I wondered why I had bothered with the RSPCA!!!
I have other stories too that are not dissimilar to the others on here where we have called RSPCA as we were worried about nobody feeding a field of rugless show ponies and that they were leaning over the fence and eating things they shouldn't from the woodland, RSPCA turned up a day later, said the ponies are fine, they had water and the owners told them they were feeding them, two days later pony (NOT rugged and looking like a hat rack) was found lying dead in a field full of snow!!  Strange how the day after that the other ponies were removed by the owners....
I found a bunny in the road not long after this happened, he just sat there in the middle of the lane, in the snow, looking at me, something was obviously wrong so I got out of my car, grabbed a blanket out of the boot and approached him. I got right up to him and could see he was riddled with fleas and looked to me to have mixamatosis (sp?). I could have called the RSPCA ( )or I could have left him suffering but I picked him up, wrapped him in the blanket, put him in my car and drove him to my small animal vet who, WITHOUT CHARGE  to me (I offered to pay) put the poor bunny out of his misery..... A lot quicker for the poor bunny than waiting for the RSPCA!!
I wouldn't waste my time with the RSPCA anymore..... They are totally USELESS and most of their inspectors don't know one end of a horse from another!!
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Pashon2001
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 8:25:34 PM
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Many years ago I rescued (bought) two immaciated show ponies, both registered, that lived feet away from their millionaire owners kitchen window. RSPCA had been called on numerous occasions and had advised they be bought rugs and food, rugs were on ponies and could still see bones sticking out, food was rotting by the gateway. When it was found out that I now had them the RSPCA had the cheek to call me and ask to inspect their condition so they knew they were being looked after!!!!! You can imagine my reply........................... 'You can go squigglethorp yourselves'
Absolutely useless the lot of them.
I do have a pic of one of them somewhere, will have to dig it out |
     
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Oregana
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 9:15:32 PM
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Why are they so useless??????
We all seem to have horrer stories about this so called animal caring society. Why do the inspectors have to slaughter a cow as part of their training???? How does that help them to care for animals??
I tied a stray pony to a gate on a very hot day and called the rspca. Unknown to them I was feeding and watering her regularly. The pony belonged to travellers and had strayed sooooo many times. RSPCA turned up to fetch the pony 7 hours later in ......................................................................................................................................... A FORD ESCORT VAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The inspector just looked perplexed and had not a b....y clue.  I suggested they contact a horse rescue at Lincoln and they fetched the pony. The owners never went to the police or tried to find her. Odd that????????
Please Jingo, go to the press and the TV if poss. |
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Emagetic
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 10:09:43 PM
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Within the last year I have called the RSPCA twice, once regarding a hedgehog and once for a mag pie with a broken wing. When I got through to them the RSPCA responded quickly and effectively. Maybe they do not have the training needed to deal/understand horse related matters? They do some good work and it's a shame this is not consistent across all animal problems as more lives could be saved. |
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suyents
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 : 12:22:36 AM
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| sorry Emagetic, but i very much doubt your magpie had its wing set. the RSPCA destroy most common birds soon after collecting them, IF they even bother to turn up to collect them...i too have several horror stories...RSPCA? Rather Seek Publicity (than) Care for Animals.... |
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Sahir
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Emagetic
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England
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 : 10:20:18 AM
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| Suyent,the rspca probably did put the bird to sleep which to me was preferable compared to being walking cat food or starving to death. This is a charity that is supposed to help reduce suffering and improve the lives of all animals. In some cases they do this, in others they clearly don't. When the rspca fail I think they do need to be told. The point of my original post is that they do do some good some times and I hope that when people have had bad experiences with them that they have reported this and will keep reporting this until they change for the better. Jingo, Good luck with your letter and I hope the rspca can learn something from this. |
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suyents
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jun 2010 : 08:15:21 AM
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| and the point of my post was that the RSPCA do not even give many animals a chance to recover, in your example,a broken wing could possibly be set and the bird rehabilitated...this is of course, very expensive...the rspca may do some good with domestic small animals because this is the power base of their fund-raising, but as far as agricultural and equine and indigenous wild species are concerned they do not go the extra mile...and reporting it to them is an exercise in futility. |
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alpacastoo
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Posted - 28 Jun 2010 : 12:28:21 PM
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The RSPCA has lost its way. Originally they cared about animals and cruelty of any sort, then they focused on raising money (understandable) and started to become more "business" like in that focus. They discovered that "publicity" brought in funds and gradually they have moved away from the "real cause" of helping All/ANY animal that needs their help to just getting involved in high profile publicity cases, and what is worse, they don't really care if the person is guilty or not, if they think they can make money out of something, they will.
In my experience the RSPCA is a total waste of time.
Other organisations offer more help when needed, such as HAPPA or ILPH (think they have changed names) and if I find local wildlife in need of help that I can't give, then I take them to my local vet - he is very good and will usually pts (foc) for me, or give me medication at a very reasonable price. (Mind you I do spend a fortune with him each year, having got so many animals  )
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angel2002
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 : 11:54:19 AM
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Any news Jude???
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Milotkha
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vjc
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 : 12:31:03 PM
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| precious do you remember the case of the foal found dead in a field a few years ago with its ears eaten away by foxes that our mutual friend discovered just by chance!!! all the other ponies in that field were having to graze around its decaying carcass. again the RSPCA were informed but the ponies are still all there with feet like slippers!!!! hopefully no dead foals left in the field this year it does depress you that when you think something will be done and it is`nt!!!! |
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Nichole Waller
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England
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 : 10:58:08 PM
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I first started reading this post sunday afternoon in JFK airport on my phone while i was waiting for my flight home... It made me really mad and very upset...
I've just started to go through the recent postings while i've been away and i can't believe how many people have had such a bad experience with the RSPCA...
I too had reason to call them about 10 years ago to a field next to my office. There were four horses in the field and they called for most of the day, i heard them calling but couldn't see through the bushes to see them. After a day of them continuously calling i decided to take a walk in my lunch hour to try and find the entrance to the field.
What i found was a disused, run down yard and a bald field with 4 horses in. They had no water, they were all very thin and one of them obviously had a broken leg. Two of them were Arabs...
I went back to the office and phoned the RSPCA and said the horses needed urgent attention and could someone come today.. They said " we will see what we can do, leave it with us". I asked to be kept informed.
I went back to the field that evening after work and took water and some hay. No one had been.... The poor horse with the broken leg couldn't move so i had to take hay to him and hold the bucket for him to drink. I phoned the RSPCA again on my mobile and got a recorded message saying the office was closed and not open until 9.00 am the next day.......
I lay awake all night thinking about these poor horses. I didn't have my own land and had no where to put them. I just prayed the RSPCA would turn up the next morning.
To cut a long story short it took them 4 days before they came out to visit..... This was with me phoning them 2 or 3 times a day, and you can guess when they finally arrived what they came in........ a small van....!. The poor horse with the broken leg was pts in the field and the others were finally taken away a WEEK later...
I have not and will NEVER again give money to this Charity. They are appalling and really need to be brought to justice. I wish i'd taken my story to the press but i never did. Something i will always regret. PLEASE PLEASE take your story to the press and keep us all informed. Maybe in your letter you should send them a link to this article....
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Gerri
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 : 11:44:42 PM
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| OMG itis so awful, why do all these equines have to end up like this , it breaks my heart I wsh I could win the lottery and make all horses of all ages and state of health happy in thier last years, thats exactly wha I would do, and how awful for you to find it, the sight of that would haunt me for the rest of my days, big hugs to you and congratulations of the birth of your foal x |
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 : 07:06:33 AM
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My uncle used to be an RSPCA Inspector, but left because of the bureacracy and the wasted money, about the time when they went over to a central number. How can they be a caring charity to leave animals to suffer? Heartbreaking reading this, hope you get a result Jingo.
Edited to say congratulations on Veruchka and having an understanding husband! |
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jackiedo
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 : 2:57:50 PM
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Pashon2001
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 : 3:39:29 PM
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Okay, for people who havent seen what the RSPCA consider okay to leave in a field, these are the ponies that I took in and the RSPCA had the cheek to want to check on me (arghhh  )
Please bear in mind these ponies had hair two inches long, they arent full pictures to avoid recognition. They were three years old and reg with NPS and VERY well bred.
I do have after pics but will not display as do not want the ponies recognised and any previous owner/breeder being accused. |
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Tzarina
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 : 7:05:42 PM
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Sahir
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Posted - 01 Jul 2010 : 6:19:26 PM
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Bump - to be back on first page plus I have sent you a PM Jude.
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Jingo
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Posted - 01 Jul 2010 : 10:29:42 PM
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What a fantastic response to this thread and at least I am not the only one who finds the RSPCA lacking in any proper response to their requests for assistance.
Well it is now nearly TEN days since we reported the body in the brook and still NO RESPONSE from the RSPCA. The Police did get involved and I have since heard they were quite happy that the pony was disposed of correctly!!!!!!!!!!!!
We were a little confused because the pony with "laminitis" was supposedly a dun and the pony we found dead in the brook looked chestnut in the dark surroundings.
We learnt that the RSPCA had informed the owners NOT to turn the laminitic pony out in the big field but to contain it. Luckily the public footpath runs thru the field so we went and had another look the other day.
Dun pony was there - still VERY sore on front feet, along with a very fat grey pony - also showing signs of laminitis PLUS another grey pony who still had its winter coat in this weather - ALL THREE had FULL access to ALL fields - so not much monitoring there.
We have again passed all information to ALL the welfare agencies in the hope that someone does something about the state and care of these ponies. Sometimes even very FAT ponies showing signs of laminitis and perhaps cushings do need attention.
Surely the RSPCA and their supporters read forums and see they are getting such bad press that they would at least have the courtesy to reply to the public who inform them of such lack of treatment of horses.
Just because the pony in the brook was not the laminitic - IF the RSPCA were supposedly monitoring these horses WHY did no-one - owners or RSPCA see that one was missing and investigate further - FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THEY ALL COULDN'T CARE LESS - SO THIS POOR ANIMAL SUFFERED FOR HOW LONG BEFORE IT DIED - BELIEVE ME IT WAS NOT A PRETTY SIGHT, BLOATED WITH MAGGOTS AND BLUE FLIES OVER IT - NOW THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A FEW HOURS.
I like a lot of you will NEVER EVER GIVE ONE PENNY TO THE RSPCA - HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME, YOU ARE WORSE THAN THOSE WHO MISTREAT THEIR ANIMALS. |
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