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Callisto
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 Posted - 14 Jun 2010 : 2:08:28 PM
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| Thanks for the explanation of gingering - how absolutely horrific - do these people sit around inventing horrible things to do to beautiful horses? I'm with Babs on this one - they should have it stuck up their backsides! Oh and the whole shaved panda eyes thing just looks utterly ridiculous. |
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LadyLuck1
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England
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Posted - 14 Jun 2010 : 2:23:49 PM
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Had never heard of gingering before, I cant imagine why anyone would do this to their horse. I'm all for a dose of their own medicine to anyone caught doing this.
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Callisto
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Posted - 14 Jun 2010 : 4:44:53 PM
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| I am almost afraid to ask, but what is neck sweating? |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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MinHe
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England
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Posted - 14 Jun 2010 : 6:06:54 PM
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It's the use of a neoprene sleeve (or similar) around the horse's throat, to sweat out water and make the neck look thinner (dehydrated). Personally, I can't see how it can possibly make any difference, as the horse will soon make up the lost liquid whenever it drinks.
I once had to move a mare for someone who was having it on loan. The British owner gingered all her horses as a matter of course, even just to show off to people (so it's not just the 'naughty Americans' at shows), and when I went to put a tail bandage on the mare, the poor thing was so terrified she practically sat on me. I will never forget that.
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Callisto
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Posted - 14 Jun 2010 : 6:10:51 PM
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That's ridiculous - if putting a neoprene sleeve around certain bits of one's anatomy sweated them smaller there would be a roaring trade in neoprene wraps for women.
As for the gingering thing, the more I hear about it the more outraged I am. |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
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justine
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England
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Posted - 14 Jun 2010 : 7:02:57 PM
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I am absolutly against cruelty and ridiculous panda eyes. As I have said I do clip a little closer around the eye for effect.
For neck sweating - its ok and not cruel to work a horse in the normal manner in a neck sweat. Some horses put on fat around the neck. Sweating can help.
I only show my horses at Intl. shows. Its not all cruel as people make out. My horses are the sweetest ever even after being in training centers abroad.
Ginger, no!
To pull manes is worse! Half of our yard is family show ponies. Do people think these ponies are naturally so pristine and well manered for their small riders?
My arabians suffer nothing! They enjoy even to be clipped as babies, lunged with sweats etc.
Nature is beauty but we all try to look our best, human, dog, horse.
If you love your arabian natural then so be it. I love mine with feather off, bridle path off if sporting a wild mane! plus professionally prepared for a show.
If anyone came to my farm. They could go into the pasture with a European prof. trained horse, she would love you, put a halter on and she would give you a trot and pose on the end of your lead for fun.
There is a lot of cruelty, we all know but please dont be against us that do like to highlight certain areas of beauty.
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kimzi
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Posted - 14 Jun 2010 : 8:04:02 PM
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| The rsults of a neck sweat wont change as soon as the horse drinks, having had joints strapped in neoprene braces after injuries i can definateley say it takes quite a bit of time for the flesh to regain its normal shape, hence i never show my ankles or what used to be cankles. |
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MinHe
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Jamana
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England
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 6:29:38 PM
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And people say Racing is hard to it's horses 
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george
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 6:59:57 PM
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Thanks for clearing up the Gingering thing, and I must say that it is "BARBARIC" as bad as putting stinging nettles on the clitoris of a mare just after she's been covered to make her keep her tail clamped down and "yes" I have heard of people doing that in my area, I know where I'd like to stick those nettles  and some Ginger for good measure. As Lindilou says why would you want to do that as it won't breed on ....stupid people. |
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Zenitha
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 9:19:49 PM
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Well, I hate the Panda eye look - it looks ridiculous, no wonder Arabs are the laughing stock of the equestrian world
I actually received an e mail from a well known European training centre asking me to support their campain to get the ban lifted Not bloomin likely 
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Zan
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Milotkha
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 1:23:51 PM
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I am against the P.E and I am just about to email.
I dont mind a little oil on the face, but I dont like it when they look like they have been showered in the stuff.
There are no words to describe gingering..!
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Milotkha
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 1:37:34 PM
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My email.....
Dear Sir.
Thank you for the ban on Panda Eyes, please please keep this in force. My views are this….the Panda Eye look on our beautiful Arabian Horses is quite simply vile.. and the people who claim to love this breed, who carry out this act, in my opinion do not care for them as they say they do, but care more for their own imagine and the publicity they will receive.
Do they look at the super models on the catwalk and admire their size 0 frame, gaunt features and ‘death warmed up’ appearance? I should hope not. But if they were to see that same girl, a healthy size, beautiful features and glowing with beauty, you’d see her for what she really is.
This is how we see our Arabians…. They are magnificent horses, and full of natural beauty that does not need to be enhanced by the shaving of hair around the eyes, and many other acts that go on in the showing world. We just hope that the keeping this ban in force will encourage people to see this, and still show their horses with the same success. The judge is close enough to each horse to see if the eye has been shaved or not.
Kind Regards
Kim
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