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Alphamare
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Posted - 03 Apr 2010 :  12:24:48 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Alphamare to your friends list Send Alphamare a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am looking at a lovely mare to buy. Neither I nor the owner know her breeding though and i was hoping someone could help me out.

Her name is Haifaa, her sire is Dormane (FR) FRSB (Manganate (FR) / Mandore (FR)) and her dam is Ima Champ Ku (US) AHSB XVII (SX Champion (US) /Bartika (US))

What is her breeding lineage is she Egyption/Polish/English etc? As we are not sure.

Here is a pic of her, she certainly looks like an old syle desert arab




dont worry i have the permision of the owner to look her up.

Thanks in advance!!
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Callisto
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Posted - 03 Apr 2010 :  01:23:23 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you follow this link it gives you her sire's breeding (including photo of Dad)
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dormane

This is her grandsire on her Dam's side
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sx+champion

and this is her Dam's Mother

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bartika

But you'll need one of the experts on here to give you the info on whether she is egyptian/polish/english etc. Serafix is definitely english (SX Champion's pedigree)He was exported to the USA in 1954. Hope this helps

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
East Sussex

Edited by - Callisto on 03 Apr 2010 01:43:08 AM
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Alphamare
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Posted - 03 Apr 2010 :  09:30:48 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Alphamare to your friends list Send Alphamare a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much!

It seems like some of her ancestors were Crabbet bred yay :D

I wish i knew how to work it all out as i would like to know her percentage.

The sire information is all in French
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Lila
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Posted - 03 Apr 2010 :  10:27:55 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lila to your friends list Send Lila a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi, not sure about the % Crabbet, she is a blend of Crabbet, French old dessert, Polish and dessert I think from Davenport. Lovely mare full of race lines. Did she race??

Monique

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Alphamare
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Posted - 03 Apr 2010 :  10:54:52 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Alphamare to your friends list Send Alphamare a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi

thanks!

I wanted a desert old style arabian :D

There is a nice Crabbet stallion in wales i wouldnt mind putting her too (to keep the foal!)

She did race. I think four times. She placed in all of them i think. I did read all the paperwork the owner has including race report things. She won some money.

She is 12 now. And very honest!
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whirlwindhorses
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Posted - 03 Apr 2010 :  12:17:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add whirlwindhorses to your friends list Send whirlwindhorses a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sire is french and one of the most sought after sires for racing stock!


www.whirlwindhorses.co.uk
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Sundance
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  8:37:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sundance to your friends list Send Sundance a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Hi Alphamare,

Haifaa is a very bred Arabian race mare - her sire Dormane won the Group 1 Dubai Stakes in UK and is Worldwide Champion racesire, he is also a sire of sires and has had hundreds of Group 1 winners in UK, USA, Europe and UAE. His daughters are highly sought after. See excerpt from Ascot Arab race sale:

SIRE: DORMANE – Won six races at 3 & 4 yrs inc. Group 1 Dubai Stakes, Coupe Du Cheval Arabe, Prix Ourour from only 8 starts. Own brother to DJAMEL (won Group 1 Zabeel Stakes, sire), MADJEL (won Prix Animex), DJENDEL (Champion sire Qatar). Sire of winners inc. DARIKE (Won French Derby, sire), PASSEM LOTOIS (Won French Derby, sire), CHNDAKA (won National Day Cup UAE, Al Nahyan International Stakes UK, sire), DORMAH DE BRUGERE (won Group 2 – top UK rated juvenile 2003), ARSENE RUPIN (won Group 1 UK Derby, Group 3 Derby Trial, Group 2 UAE Racing Federation International Cup, Group 3 Emirates International Stakes 2005), DJELDOR DE BOZOULS (won Group 1 Zabeel Stakes 2003), NOREEN (won Group 1 Hatta Mares Stakes), NEZ D’OR (won Group 1 Kahayala Classic UAE), UDJIDOR DE BOZOULS (won Group 1 Hatta Mares Stakes 2005), DJOURDAN (won Group 1 UK Derby and Group 1 Dubai Stakes 2003), ANASTAYSA (won Group 1 Abu Dhabi Juvenile International Championship UK 2003), KAOLINO won Group 1 Kahayala Classic UAE. Champion Group race sire 2002-2003 UK.


The dam is by SX Champion who is mainly American Crabbet lines and has sired winners in USA. The dam side traces to racelines of Kontiki which are Polish based.

Haifaa raced 4 times from 2002-03 and was placed 3 times (3rd in her maiden and 4th twice inc. over 9 furlongs at Huntingdon.

Nice mare looks a nice type, the lack of type comes from the French lines which are known for their course heads, stocky bodys and powerful back ends, they tend to be very fast and succesful on the racetrack and in endurance.

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Paul


Her lack of type comes from the French lines

Paul
www.zayinarabianstud.co.uk
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Alphamare
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 :  6:29:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Alphamare to your friends list Send Alphamare a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much!!

Well ive bought her and she comes home on Friday

I am hoping to do a little of everything with her including endurance and some cross country.

She is a smart mare and very honest
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 :  11:48:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Alphamare, Keep us posted, we'd love to hear how you are doing..I can always point you in the direction of endurance.
Sue

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Edited by - Rozy Rider on 15 Apr 2010 11:49:35 AM
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