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sazzlepants71
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  2:17:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sazzlepants71 to your friends list Send sazzlepants71 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hi, I picked my copy of H&H today and was delighted to read this in the news about the plans to bring back 'traditional' in-hand showing classes!
It quotes 'some breeders have become critical of the 'modern' way of showing arabians, in which the horses head is positioned artificially high with the hindlegs out behind the body when standing up for a judge'

Wessex Group Arabian Group summer C Show will be introducing 'trial' classic classes well done Wessex!!!
It also goes on to say statement : Show organiser Felicity Harper said : we hope these classes will redress in some way the unfortunate impression many of us have of the arabian Horse because of the manner in which it is shown'
Classic classes will encourage handlers to show in a 'quiet and relaxed manner.The classes have been sanctioned by the European Arab Horse Show commission;
both classic & modern sections will be assessed by the same judges.No horse entered for one style will be eligible to be shown in other.
Each will have its own qualifiers for the European Conference of Arab horse Organisation A show at Towerlands..

theres plenty more in the article, it makes such positive reading I think - I just had to share!
what great news for many of us on here who have felt so strongly about the 'frozen pose' for so long!
see you in the ring???

sazzle

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Elainem
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  2:27:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Elainem to your friends list Send Elainem a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well done Felicity and the Wessex committee, I hope more will follow.

E Mann
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jaj
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  2:28:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaj to your friends list Send jaj a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Excellent! Off to buy my copy now to read more !





Kuraishiya (Maleik el Kheil/Kazra el Saghira) and Sahara Bey (Kuraishiya/WSA Charismma)
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Tomos
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  2:32:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tomos to your friends list Send Tomos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is great news and even better that the wider public know that there are lots of arab owners and breeders opposed to modern day practices in the ring. Well done Felicty for getting such good press, we insist on all classes at the Welsh Crabbet Show being shown traditioally, and what a lovely day it makes.

Roll on the time when once again the public will reconise the Arab horse as THE superlative riding horse

Mandy

"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind" Gandhi

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NatH
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  2:52:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NatH to your friends list Send NatH a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well done Wessex

Natalie
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Pasha
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  3:17:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasha to your friends list Send Pasha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Toddling off to read mine now....

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Zan
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  3:20:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good news Well done Wessesx.

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Gerri
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  3:47:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fantastic News
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geegee
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  4:00:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add geegee to your friends list Send geegee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fantasic news! Well done Wessex Let's hope more groups follow.

This is a great opportunity for Arab owners to attend shows who, like me, are completely put off due to the "frozen poze" and the noise brigade.

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angelarab
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  4:12:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yup going to buy a copy thanks for the info.

How would horses be received and judged in ring if the handlers mixed classic with modern? I vote for Classic traditional

"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."
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BabsR
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  4:14:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wonderful news......and about time the tables turned and we once again show our Arabian horses as they should be shown. We are British.....lets keep our own traditional way of showing.!!!

Babs

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rosie
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  4:37:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosie to your friends list Send rosie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonder if many other shows will follow suit?
Lisa




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Roseanne
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  6:30:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Let's hope it starts the ressurection of the Arab as a respected breed among other horse owners/riders!

Good for Wessex!

Roseanne
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Lucytoo
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  7:33:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lucytoo to your friends list Send Lucytoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Brilliant news, well done Wessex!
Here's hoping more shows follow

L.x

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Pashon2001
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  8:16:17 PM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hate to throw a spanner in the works but......its great they have the seperate qualifying classes, but are they going to be seperate at the UKIAHS, if not..........which will the judges prefer I wonder.


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moatside
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  8:19:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add moatside to your friends list Send moatside a Private Message  Reply with Quote
from little acorns......
well done Wesex - here,s hoping it is just the beginning

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templars
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  8:19:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add templars to your friends list Send templars a Private Message  Reply with Quote
North Staffs beat them to it - they offered Traditional showing classes a couple of years ago but sadly had to drop them because so few people entered.

We did, and we were the only entries - the talented and beautiful Taragun "won" the senior section and the Championship and our little yearling filly "won" the youngstock and Reserve Championship.

Glad Wessex are offering the classes but it was heartbreaking when we took part that
a) no one else bothered even after all the hoo haa against "modern" showing
b) not one spectator turned up to watch even though we were in one of the main arenas

Hope more people put their words into action this time

And well done North Staffs for trying!

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Zenitha
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  8:36:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zenitha to your friends list Send Zenitha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As Templars says, it's SO important that this show is well supported. This is our opportunity to 'vote with our feet' and get on the road to change.

Most of us have made plenty of noise about the aspects of modern showing we hate - now we've been given this golden opportunity to make change, we MUST make the most of it !

I'll be taking at least two


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stuart
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  8:43:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stuart to your friends list Send stuart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hopefully, in the near future owners will see this as an opportunity to show their stock themselves - as opposed to only chosen horses going into the ring via handlers. This would broaden the field visually and increase entries surely?
We may even get back to entries justifying two lines of entrants........and who knows who would be placed where...?

North Norfolk
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Ziadomira
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  11:36:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ziadomira to your friends list Send Ziadomira a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Many thanks for your kind comments. Wessex spent some time preparing its case (with the assistance of the AHS) to put to ECAHO and we were delighted when they let us run this trial. There are conditions that we have agreed to.

The comment about the the manner of showing at the International is accepted, but it will at least get the horses in the ring. If the judges are any good they should be able to look at the horse and not the way it is shown.

Wessex actually ran Classic showing classes at its Summer show in 2005 at the Bath & West Showground. The experience was similar to North Staffs but not quite so bad. Horses were entered but it got so hot they didn't go in the ring. I was not aware that North Staffs ran both Traditional amd Modern style ECAHO qualifiers a couple of years ago. Let us hope that Wessex has more luck. Both the Modern and Clasic classes at the Wessex Summer C Show will be ECAHO qualifers and we hope that this trial will be supported.

Zia
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MinHe
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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  12:02:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now we just need more shows around the country to offer them! I am definitely up for it but Wessex is just too far for us

Keren
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moatside
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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  12:07:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add moatside to your friends list Send moatside a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sadly Wessex is to far for me too! Would very def support somewhere that didn't involve 3 hours + travel.

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Clutha
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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  12:10:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Clutha to your friends list Send Clutha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For the Crabbet qualifying classes showing has to be done 'naturally' otherwise you are disqualified. It has to be a good move to give the other arab horses the chance to move properly & naturally. Fingers crossed the classes get plenty of support.

Pip
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karen d
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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  12:22:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add karen d to your friends list Send karen d a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i think its a fantastic idea, but why cant the wessex show be central to its members??!!!!! not sure if we will go the the wessex shows this year now that the venue has been changed

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Hollyhill
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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  12:50:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hollyhill to your friends list Send Hollyhill a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Brilliant idea and well done Wessex .......I would certainly support the classes but its just too far for us to travel to what is possibly the most Western point of the Wessex Group area
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kimzi
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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  12:58:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kimzi to your friends list Send kimzi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes it is quite far, last year we went to newbury which is a good 100 miles, but this year it will be too far for us .
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