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Roseanne
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 Posted - 30 Jun 2009 : 10:08:57 AM
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I agree Alistair in that it seems that in-hand and ridden showing with Arabs are two different sports and it would be awful if some elitist rules for one affect the other detrimentally...
I can't see the logic in anyone trying to impose/refine rules that reduce the numbers attracted. It is making a breed that is alrelady seen as 'questionable' in the wider horse world even more outrageous and remote from reality. It's certainly not good for improvement/restoration of the Arab's good worldwide reputation and popularity. |
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SueB
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Posted - 30 Jun 2009 : 10:26:53 AM
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My original post is really quite a selfish one in that I am trying to encourage other breeders to write to those two Agricultural shows and pledge our loyalty, even if some of us don't actually show anymore.
To drop back to being just a county show affiliated to the AHS in my mind is still a show worth entering. Winning at County level used to be very well thought of and often proudly thought of. Unfortunately something has gone wrong, I feel not so much with the system, but with those that show in-hand.
I appreciate all that ECAHO does in trying to stamp out abuse at the big rated shows, using a vet is one idea.
What is a shame is that we in the UK again seem like the poor relations, in the very sense of the word poor, we can't afford to have a vet at all C shows and now have to ask for some sort of leniency in this ruling from ECAHO, which actually is a good ruling.
I don't know the answer only in finding a rich sponsor who will support the costs at a C show of finding a vet.
I have yet to see what the European shows are like as a competitor and this year is my first venture. If they can do it then I suppose we have to find a way or drop some of our C shows back to just being affiliated.
We have to retrain those that compete in-hand that showing your lovely pure bred at a non C show is not a crime and does give you reward in more ways than you first imagine. Winning at County Level is and should be applauded by all.
I've added this bit in reply to Alistair, I know how much the ridden arab is needed, wanted and admired, but at probably the biggest show this year on Sunday, the fantastic ridden classes were huge, all supported so very well, with very high quality horses. Great.
But where is the audience? only those to do with each ridden horse seemed to be watching.
If you look at the in-hand rings they are buzzing with crowds and lookers, no screaming or shouting either!!! very well behaved lot too.
If you were to have a dedicated magazine for the ridden arab it may well only sell to those that ride, thus limiting it. Ridden and in-hand must not be divided. One needs the other always.
The arab horse can and does do both.
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Edited by - SueB on 30 Jun 2009 10:42:33 AM |
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alistair leslie
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Posted - 30 Jun 2009 : 11:24:17 AM
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Many of the recent winning in-hand went on to be great HOYS qualifiers so the fact is we need both as Sue says .
What is wrong is that ECAHO is an in-hand organisation therefore we need an equally powerful body to balance things in favour of all disciplines .
Nearly every Arab can find a job to do.Yes/No?
At County level we most certainly need more entries in all disciplines .Having with my horses won Supreme at many county shows it feels a great honour somehow .
Collective brainstorming needed
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CINDERS
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Posted - 30 Jun 2009 : 12:25:30 PM
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Be careul what you wish for - I am told that ECAHO would love to get their sticky fingers on our ridden classes and that would be a complete disaster.
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Roseanne
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Posted - 30 Jun 2009 : 1:29:38 PM
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I don't know who's opted for ECAHO getting their hands on ridden classes but I also think that would be a complete disaster. ECAHO appears to be there for the benefit of a very few at the top of in-hand showing. I'd like to see an international Arab organisation that goes all out to promote the Arab horse at all levels.
Sue, it's always been like that - ridden classes have been placed away from the stands and those supporting the ridden horses groom in the main. It will be interesting to see what happens at the Nationals this year if the ridden classes are in the main ring. HOYS shows that there is a big fan base for the ridden Arab.
As far as county shows go (I am only talking ridden Arabs here as I don't show in-hand) you have a good Arab that will perform obediently and with concentration with the razmatazz of a busy, varied county show going on all around it. Not many horses will do that so I do think these are superior - AND they give prize money!! The only problem is, if you have a nice ridden Arab, and you have a limited budget, you're likely to go to shows where you may stand a chance of qualifying for HOYS. It's very expensive to do a ridden show these days! |
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Demise of our C Shows?
