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tamila
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 Posted - 22 Jan 2007 : 1:48:50 PM
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| The small picture is of Rimarli at about 15 miles out in a 20 mile ride. He is absolutely brilliant at endurance but becomesbored very easily. We only hack out now as I am getting onb and have a bad back. He is very precious as I brought him up on the bottle from 5 hours old as his mum died. |
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gu-ku-vi
Gold Member
Denmark
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Posted - 22 Jan 2007 : 3:30:37 PM
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Is it only me? I canīt see any of Tamilas pictures !!!
Gunni. |
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Amanda Teale
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Jan 2007 : 6:43:29 PM
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Hello
Thank you for your info Edbert, Elle is chestnut, I think she is very beautiful, and she is very kind and forgiving, and she is quite impressive if she dains to put on the occassional show. The few times I have shown nobody was very impressed I don't think she is typey enough . She dosen't tend to show off in the ring, and is very calm compared with her competitors. But I did go out of my way to encourage calmness in her training, because I am very keen on calm riding horses, I am good at that, but not good at a showing horses. When circumstance and Finance allow the stallion I desire as a husband for Elle is Dervatiw Gwyddion, on paper do You think he is a good match? I am impressed with his Dressage achievements, and with his 16hh statue and Elle 15.2hh I would hope for good sized horse.
Here is my geldings details again Pepito Shah by Kerim Shah out of Pepita Bint Procyon. Pepi is Grey and very bossy but likes people.
Regarding photos I am not sure how to put them on the forum, I think I will need some help!! As soon as I can I will post some.
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Deboniks
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England
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Posted - 22 Jan 2007 : 6:47:17 PM
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Hi Amanda~I'll put them uo if you send them to me Speak to you later
No, I can't see Tamilla's photos either,I think she's having problems. |
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Deboniks
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 22 Jan 2007 : 7:30:34 PM
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Hi I'm so pleased that Di has posted on here I know when she has time she likes to catch up.
Egbert,I don't think cloning will be a possibility for my horse Not at $35,000!! However if there is a rich Crabbet breeder out there...... I don't think there is such a thing
I am really looking forward to Al Waha stud visit.
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tamila
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 07:05:12 AM
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| I have now cleared the mistaken signature and will try again on return from work. You should be able to see the picture of Tamila (Milly) with her foal Samira Gold (Cleo) as it is in the post and not yet in my signature. |
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 11:58:03 AM
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Hi Amanda,
The cross of Elleyce with Gwyd should be awesome-magnificent and very possibly quite beautiful....BUT it will take forever to mature. When it does, think their baby will be a jaw dropper. While they don't share any of her linebred Egyptian lines...they share Skowronek, Rodania and Amurath Sahib. That combined with size, the kindly temperaments of both horses...the result should really be wonderful.
Your boy Pepito shah is fascinating! Though triple Nazeer that doesn't come through as strongly as his Crabbet lines that are shared on both sides of the pedigree. And his dam line is to the QUEEN of all she oversaw...Roxana, from whom he has the bossy attitude. Bet he thinks he is the crown prince! He is basically sensible but could, just to give everyone a bit of a time of it-behave as if he is going to get into trouble! He should have excellent action, a wonderful performance horse who can be a bit thrilling at times...I really sense a mischievous sort here. A very fun gelding to own!
Debbie, my hunch is that in the not too distant future we'll be able to clone our favorite critters for just a few thousand dollars. How great would that be? So treat them well, make sure they remain well because sooner or later we'll be able to clone without too much guilt.
Tamila in the post above this I see no pictures...???Thank you for trying, though! |
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tamila
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England
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Amanda Teale
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 3:32:11 PM
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Egbert here are some phots
Elleyce
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Cate
Platinum Member
Scotland
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 4:30:31 PM
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Hi Amanda,
Just browsing through and,firstly, what lovely horses you have. Your lovely mare has the same dam line as my young mare Gwinivine. Garmon is my mare's dam and is owned by Silverdale Arabian Stud.
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Amanda Teale
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 8:42:35 PM
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Hello
Thank you to my technical assistant Debbie(Deboniks) for putting the pictures of Elle And Pepi on my profile and post above.
Edbert, I am pleased you think Gwid would be a good match, I had better start my Foal Fund! And make sdre Gwids Mum is ok with such a liason. But in the mean time I will enjoy my lovely Elle.
And Pepi defenitely is the Prince, if not the king. I have only owned him 14 months, for the 8 years he had been in a paddock on his. Being turned out in a herd has made his life complete, after the first few days of shock he became boss within about 3 weeks. His attitude is I have the first choice in everything, feed, hay being caught. And they all follow him everywhere, changing paddocks is a piece of cheese!!
Cate, thank you for the compliment on my babies, yes I knew Garmon was at Silverdale, i have some photos of her taken at SERAH summer show one year. I had a peak at your web site, love your guys too, and your black Stallion WOWEEE!! my other dream. Which one your site is the Garmon baby?
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Cate
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Scotland
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 8:47:30 PM
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Amanda....my girls did my website...just some fun...and thank you for the compliments, also dreams can and do come true, so keep wishing for your black gelding! My Garmon baby is the dark grey/brown mare. She is very sweet and very sharp!
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Amanda Teale
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 9:05:25 PM
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Cate
I thought it might be(Did'nt like to say in case I was wronge) she has a look of Elle about her. Black Gelding, black gelding I am wishing very hard right now!!1 |
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Egbert
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 24 Jan 2007 : 09:20:21 AM
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Amanda,
Elleyce is simply gorgeous! Thank you so much for posting the photos...Would also love to see more of your Pepi! Obviously he looks very well indeed and am so pleased that both live up to their pedigrees so spectacularly. What a delight!
Tamila and Debbie, Many thanks for your assistance here. |
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Amanda Teale
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Jan 2007 : 6:37:16 PM
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Thank you Edbert
I am afraid I don't have any other good ones of Pepi at present, and our weather at the moment is not very photographic friendly. If and when I get a good one in the future I will post on a special thread dedicated to Pepi, as is correct for one of his status!!!
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Egbert
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 25 Jan 2007 : 08:48:45 AM
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Hi Amanda,
That would be great. Perhaps in the late Spring when Pepi is shed out? That would be fun.
Everyone,
(At the risk of being redundant...) For breeders, buyers and admirers of Arabians...One of the most important things to remember is that the horses being looked at on this thread are those who have, as a general rule, been not just beautifully bred, BUT very well cared for, free of issues that less well cared for animals exhibit.
Of particular note an expert can read a pedigree BUT if the object of the exercise has had the worst kind of gestation in it's dam's womb as a result of poor care, bad feed, illness or some issue like extreme stress...the resulting animal's phenotype (looks, attitude) will NOT necessarily reflect it's genotype (genetic makeup). One of the joys of the British bred Arabian, and why it is comparatively easy to read a pedigree is that the British take genuine pride in taking great care of their horses, resulting in an almost textbook expectation of the horse being presented. Breeding great horses IS fairly straight forward and easy IF the breeder understands how to combine lines and gives the mare and her baby the best chance for a great foal thanks to proper care. Happily, this thread certainly reflects what is happening with the horses presented. |
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gentle001
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Wales
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Posted - 28 Jan 2007 : 9:43:01 PM
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Hi Egbert
Been reading this topic with interest. Sorry to be a pain but could you tell me about my fillys tail female line and the characteristics. She is by So Black Alarabi out of Princess Jalalah http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/alshama+alarabi
Thank you for any help and info that you can give me. |
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 10:45:53 AM
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Gentle! Welcome aboard! What a delightful filly you have in Alshama Alarabi! She must be progressively more beautiful each day! She has a very interesting pedigree whose common factor would seem to be their color but in fact they share the root mare on the tail female line-which is Seglawi Jedran via Yemama which was proven by mtDNA tests taken several years ago to be the same tail female as Bint Helwa! This means she will be exceptionally loyal, courageous, elegant. Sometimes a little straight of profile, they nevertheless make up for it in that elegance.
Trust is a key element with this filly. She needs to know she can trust her humans and especially one special one. This will help with the learning process...for the greater the trust the greater the speed in which she will learn. She will be an exhilerating ride and her bloodlines are such that you should be able to breed her any way you want with an excellent result.
Think you are going to have tremendous fun with Alshama Alarabi! Please keep us posted. |
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gentle001
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Wales
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Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 11:19:34 AM
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Cheers Egbert
Thanks so much for your speedy reply!! You have her down to a T, She is the sweetest little filly and your right she does seem to grow preetier with each passing day (Beauty lies in the hands of the beholder). She is such a little character and I will bear in mind all your comments for her future development. So Seglawi Jedran via Yemama is her tail female line. It is all so interesting as we have the three generations daughter, Dam and grandmother.
I will try and post some up to date pictures of her as she has changed a lot from her pics on the all breed database. I cant wait for her further development in the future.
Once again thank you so much for your insightfull information. |
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 12:19:52 PM
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Yikes! Gentle! I wasn't as clear as I should have been...My brain works in some sort of weird pedigree shorthand and it occasionally doesn't translate properly...Her sire's tail female traces to Yemama who was originally thought to be Kuhailan Jellaby but mitochondrial dna tests established that Yemama and Bint Helwa, Alshama's dam line/ tail female to Gara and on to Bint Helwa, are one and the same, i.e., they trace to the same original mare. This is so important in your filly because the Bint Helwa dam line is in effect-doubled and is thus more powerful. The strengthes that go with that dam line are thus magnified. Since there is nothing in your filly's pedigree except overall excellence (nothing deleterious is doubled), she should be exceptional in all you would ask of her.
Hope that is a little clearer...Will look forward to seeing pictures!!! |
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nikki
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Wales
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Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 4:52:24 PM
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Hiya Egbert,
Was wondering if i could bother you again?
Great Thanks!
I had 2 fillies born last year, the one is 75%bahraini-so i won't bother including her.
The other one-unfortunately no allbreedpedigree link-maybe someone could help?(not long til new computor on-line)
Hayshah(pending)
By Quaid (Sjambok x Grojecs Princess) out of Beconase Final Countdown (Crystal Magician x Gallisha)on earlier thread.
Many Thanks Nikki
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Egbert
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USA
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Posted - 30 Jan 2007 : 08:01:08 AM
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Hi Nikki
You must have a gorgeous creature there with that pedigree. She has the very very successful Nazeer sire line with Menaghy dam line of incredible beauty potential. The only hiccup...it may take her some time to mature not reaching her fullest potential until she is 5-6 years of age. If she is gray she is particularly fine and if a chestnut-more robust, nevertheless very lovely. The most delightful part of this pedigree is the 'in-your-pocket' personality of pure love. I've tried to send you the pedigree as it appears on our database here. Hopefully you can enter it on All Breeds. |
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Jingo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Jan 2007 : 3:03:50 PM
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Nikki I've added Quaid and Beconase Final Countdown to allbreeds - you'll just have to add your progeny now |
Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk
      
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Fee
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Posted - 30 Jan 2007 : 7:17:00 PM
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Sorry Egbert, just going a little off topic here for a mo...please forgive, but it's something I have wondered about 
Jude, I wonder if you can help me...how do I add Po's progeny on all breeds? Would it not need to be the current owner's of her babies that do it? Don't want to overstep
Thanks
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Jingo
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Posted - 30 Jan 2007 : 10:46:28 PM
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| Fee, as long as you have Po's progeny details you can add to allbreeds. Just click on progeny and then add a horse. |
Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk
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