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misterei
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 :  10:49:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add misterei to your friends list Send misterei a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We had a person at our yard who bought a thoroughbred ex-racehorse, who had been used to travelling for probably seven or eight years. She loaded him in a hired 3.5 ton box and he went over the bar as you describe. I don't think it is that uncommon, our yard owner used to build boxes many years ago, and he simply took the van apart to free the horse. It couldn't happen in our box as there isn't the room for a horse to rear, and they travel herringbone style, but these small ones do present a basic design problem, so it would appear.

As for weight, I was told by the person who services our box that the 3.5 ones on the market today are all over the weight without a horse being loaded. I can't say he if he is right or wrong, but I do not see how they can be sold as fit for purpose if he is right.

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kofihorse
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  08:47:11 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kofihorse to your friends list Send kofihorse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fitting a removable breast bar is easy and relatively cheap. Ifor Williams dealers will sell you the bits you need or any trailer dealer or vehicle repair shop will do it for you,regardless of the make of your lorry or trailer.Then at least you can drop the bar from the outside if there is an accident.

The new ones don't even need an Allen key.
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kathleen
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  09:13:00 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kathleen to your friends list Send kathleen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You are correct about the new trailers there is a ring out which can be used to as a tie up ring you just stick a bar though and turn so no looking for the key you think was in the glove box of the car some where

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alkarif
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  12:45:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alkarif to your friends list Send alkarif a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We are currently considering changing our box and my daughter is keen on one of these small ones. I've transported horses for years both privately and commercially. Yes I have experienced incidents, fortunately none that caused serious injury, to either horse or human, but every event caused us to have improvements and design changes to our transport. We have also had trailers, WITH INCIDENTS LIKE THIS ONE! and tipping over on their side.

I have no experience of these small boxes but thanks to this thread, and previous experiences, I will ensure that all recommendations on here are addressed before taking the plunge and buying one.

Thanks so much for posting your traumatic experience to warn us all.




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Pashon2001
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  12:57:31 PM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've seen accidents in all types of trailor or box, unfortunately horses will be idiots..........I am very sorry your horse went through this and happy he has come out relatively unscathed, but with the best will in the world it does happen, usually to the ones wrapped in cotton wool unfortunately.


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Miska
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  1:36:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Miska's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Miska to your friends list Send Miska a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you all for reading my post.

I know there is no perfect way of transporting a horse, particularly a young one, hopefully though if we learn from experience we may be able to deal with it better.

We have had quotes from the horsebox fixing people. It cost only a little bit more for us to have the whole horse bit seperated from the tack area than the anti-weave grills. So we are going to seperate it off. Then horses travelling in it won't see where they are going and won't be able to jump over. We are also having a large door put in...which probably isn't needed as we are going to seperate off but then the guy said it didn't really make any difference to cost. So we thought we may as well.

Hearing everyones stories is scary but then again there are risks with everything you do with horses.


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Callisto
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  2:17:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Having travelled in a trailer (yes I know that's not a good idea, it was at low speed across a couple of fields with an injured horse) and in the back of a horse box, I must admit I'm amazed that most of them ever agree to go in after the first trip, it is an incredibly alien environment for them, so not surprising that occasionally they panic and do dangerous things.

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dassa23
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Posted - 20 Jan 2011 :  6:34:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dassa23 to your friends list Send dassa23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am sorry to hear of your experiences, glad you are all ok. I have recently purchased a new 3.5 tonne conversion after having an ifor williams for a while. My boy had an accident in the trailer and refused to stand up so I had to find an alternative. I know just how traumatic these things can be, and I don't think I will ever be able to transport a horse without it scaring me to death! I think many of you are right and there will never be a perfect way to transport horses. I did plenty of research before purchasing the lorry and made sure that I got one with a removable breast bar and an extra wide rear door. It is a very nice lorry and hopefully fingers crossed, I will never have any problems

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