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AkramGold
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England

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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  11:24:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add AkramGold to your friends list Send AkramGold a Private Message
I'm looking for an inhand show halter wheres the best place to get them. I have only done ridden showing before. Thanks loads

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Bethan
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Wales
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  11:55:57 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bethan to your friends list Send Bethan a Private Message
I have found both of mine second hand (but practically new) in the local paper, I have also seen some on ebay. They are quite pricey new but the Arab Emporium or Halter Ego sell them new with a huge choice of styles and colour. I think they both advertise on the banners on this page. Good luck with your search
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Basilisk
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  12:56:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Basilisk to your friends list Send Basilisk a Private Message
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Originally posted by AkramGold

I'm looking for an inhand show halter wheres the best place to get them. I have only done ridden showing before. Thanks loads



Trog Wilson makes the most lovely bridles - you can get one either off the peg or a unique one to suit *your* horse at VERY reasonable prices! The other good thing about Trog's work is that they are leather and designed to be humane - which many of the plastic skinned steel cable ones are not (even after modification, I would still not inflict those nosebands on my horses, Arabs are just too sensitive).

Trog is not on the internet, but maybe one of the Cornish people will let you have her address/phone number.

Keren
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angel2002
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  1:28:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angel2002 to your friends list Send angel2002 a Private Message
Hi Akramgold

Arabian Emporium also sell in hand bridles, Madeline is a member of this forum.

As for in hand bridles being inhumane, I would say that the only time damage is done to the head of an Arab while wearing a cable bridle is when the handler is too heavy handed and constantly shanking. I use cable bridles for my girls, they are more than happy in them and have never had any marks left on their face by using them, I would NEVER use them on my Arabs if they would cause them any harm.

I would suggest you look around at what bridles other people use in the inhand classes and on what types of head before parting with any money. Flat leather bridles are nice but not as pretty as some of the cabled/jewelled ones. Gold/brown looks nice on Chestnuts, Silver looks great on grey etc.... Look in magazines at photos of horses similar in colour/type to yours and see what halters look the best. I'm sure that the companies that sell the halters would let you try a few on so you can pick the right one for your Arab were at the same show as your horse. A final note, cheapest isn't always the bestest :) Good luck.

Angel

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traceyjoanne
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  9:08:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add traceyjoanne to your friends list Send traceyjoanne a Private Message
hi does anyone know how i can get hold of madeline for some prices of show shimmer etc
does she post out?
thanks
tracey
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Jingo
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  9:29:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Arabian Emporium have a banner on the top of the AL pages - be patient and wait and up it pops.

Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk

photos:Anthony Reynolds,Sweet,Deano,Real Time Imaging
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Basilisk
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  10:58:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Basilisk to your friends list Send Basilisk a Private Message
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Originally posted by angel2002


As for in hand bridles being inhumane, I would say that the only time damage is done to the head of an Arab while wearing a cable bridle is when the handler is too heavy handed and constantly shanking. I use cable bridles for my girls, they are more than happy in them and have never had any marks left on their face by using them, I would NEVER use them on my Arabs if they would cause them any harm.



We had a very graphic (and painful) demonstration of what these halters can do some years ago on one of the Preliminary Judges' Courses. Quite an eye-opener - and they didn't make a mark on the 'victims' (course attendees) either.

I don't have my ECAHO rules to hand, but as far as I can remember, the wording regarding these cable halters is something to the effect requiring a backing to the noseband to reduce the amount of pain that can be inflicted. Reputable European dealers sell modified halters, but ones bought off ebay US won't have modified nosebands as they are not required there.

Personally, I will only use larger diameter conventional rolled leather noseband halters, or flat noseband ones on my horses. Remember, these cable halters are essentially thin steel rope skinned over with plastic. I would certainly NEVER use them on foals.

Arabian Emporium used to sell nice handmade rolled leather halters, but I am not sure if they still do, which is one reason why I recommend Trog (the other reasons are that she is very genuine and her bridles are excellent!)

Trog's Bridles, Merianda, Croft's Common, Troon, Cambourne, Cornwall, TR14 9HT

Keren
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Anne C
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  11:22:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anne C to your friends list Send Anne C a Private Message

As far as I am aware Madeleine only sells bridle's that are 'backed'. A couple of years ago I bought a Grandeur bridle from the States and as it was coming to Europe the noseband was backed...As with anything you buy you just have to be careful and actually check out what you buy.

Anne

p.s I have also bought bridles from Trog and have been more than happy with the quality of her work. To quote Trog 'I am more than happy to burn much midnight oil to provide an owner with the 'perfect' bridle'. It seems to come down to personal choice.

Edited by - Anne C on 23 May 2005 11:27:37 PM
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AkramGold
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Posted - 24 May 2005 :  09:12:58 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AkramGold to your friends list Send AkramGold a Private Message
Thanks for all your help and advise can someone email the contact details to me at lisakimber@hotmail.com.

Thanks again all

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cassy
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Posted - 24 May 2005 :  09:31:37 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cassy to your friends list Send cassy a Private Message
Madeleine does post out but if you can get to osbaldeston not far from you her stand is there sunday

Angie

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The Arabian Emporium
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Posted - 24 May 2005 :  11:25:59 AM  Show Profile  Click to see The Arabian Emporium's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add The Arabian Emporium to your friends list Send The Arabian Emporium a Private Message
Hi Tracey and Lisa,

If you would like to give me a call I will give you all the info you need and send out a catalogue to you. (Telephone numbers below).

I also sell Trogs show halters for her and can give you her direct number if you wish.

Best wishes
Madeleine

www.arabianemporium.com
www.grangefarmarabians.com
01773822673/07771964050
07771964050
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angel2002
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Posted - 24 May 2005 :  1:52:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angel2002 to your friends list Send angel2002 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Basilisk
[br We had a very graphic (and painful) demonstration of what these halters can do some years ago on one of the Preliminary Judges' Courses. Quite an eye-opener - and they didn't make a mark on the 'victims' (course attendees) either.

I don't have my ECAHO rules to hand, but as far as I can remember, the wording regarding these cable halters is something to the effect requiring a backing to the noseband to reduce the amount of pain that can be inflicted. Reputable European dealers sell modified halters, but ones bought off ebay US won't have modified nosebands as they are not required there.




I totally disagree with what you are saying about cable halters, whether backed or not. Only damage I have seen on horses was done by heavy handed trainers/handlers!! I would be very interested to hear exactly what was done at your demonstration with inhand halters which proved painful to the attendees without leaving any marks!

At the end of the day it is each to their own, personally I think the old fashioned thick rolled leather halters are just that, old fashioned. They can also inflict pain if mis-used. Just for the record, my bridles are backed, all except one VERY SOFT Suede covered one, which I might add has never left a mark or hurt the filly that wore it (See photo below)

Angel

Angel
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