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Vygoda
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  09:08:40 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Vygoda to your friends list Send Vygoda a Private Message
I do not know the different regulations in different countries so I am writing to ask if frozen semen can be used from stallions that have passed away and for how long after the stallion's death can his semen be used or be made available for purchase by breeders?

Jane
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NPA Arabians
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  09:15:26 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NPA Arabians to your friends list Send NPA Arabians a Private Message
Must admit Jane - I wondered the same think!



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Michelle
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  09:23:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Michelle to your friends list Send Michelle a Private Message
I don't think there is a time limit? if its frozen i guess it would be for the life of the frozen semen?
Not 100% on that one but not heard anything about time limits.

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natalie whittington
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  11:25:35 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add natalie whittington to your friends list Send natalie whittington a Private Message
Once a stallion has semen frozen it can be used for years after his death,but there is alot of regulations with different countries ,the stallion would of had to have different health checks for different countries ,so most people only have a certain amount avalible for each country and some won,t be able to supply certain countries, i no new zealand and america demand alot of extra health checks and it gets very costly ,i hope this helps a bit.

nwhittington
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Basilisk
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  1:18:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Basilisk to your friends list Send Basilisk a Private Message
What a pity this opportunity wasn't available a few years back - I would have loved to have bred a foal by your stallion GONORAR, Vygoda, gorgeous horse...

Keren
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templars
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  07:53:06 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add templars to your friends list Send templars a Private Message
Natalie is right. There are different regulations depending on where the semen is being shipped to which is why it is important to know the geographic target before you extract the semen.

For stallion owners wanting to ship sement abroad you'll need to check you calendar carefully because booking a stallion for extraction can clash with 1) the natural breeding season and 2) the showing season. Lots of competition horses are booked in over winter months which is why it can be difficult to find someone to take a stallion. It really does need careful preparation and planning (and a large bank account).

Re how long it is viable, I don't think there's a time limit. It's simply a supply limit.

All these details are available from Tullis at Whitchurch and have been available for many years

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Vygoda
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  08:27:26 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vygoda to your friends list Send Vygoda a Private Message
Well, you live and learn!! I'm really amazed that if there is a supply of semen still available say 200 years down the road and taking into consideration today's technology it could happen, the semen could be used.

Thanks everyone for your input!

And thanks Basilisk for your comment on Gonorar, he left us far too early.

But the whole discussion has made me think about the future and what to do.

Jane
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NPA Arabians
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  08:36:39 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NPA Arabians to your friends list Send NPA Arabians a Private Message
How does "registration" go?



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Mike
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  4:06:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Hi Jayne,

I checked this with Pippa at Windsor House a couple of years back. I was told that so long as the stallion was licensed, blood-typed or DNA'd , and the use of AI was approved by the appropriate registry at the time of collection, then there isn't a problem. I tried some semen from a horse who died in '96 last year (having made sure there wasn't going to be a registration problem). Sadly I didn't get a foal, but will try again with a younger mare in a year or two's time.

Mike
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BobandEna
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  5:17:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Hi Jane,

I think the quality of the semen when it’s frozen will effect it’s shelf life, we all knew El- Shaklan was a quality horse, the same can now be said for his semen.

Regards

Bob
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Jingo
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  8:08:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
I have heard El Shaklan semen is available in Italy at £8000!!!! That will have to be some good semen.

Jude
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natalie whittington
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  11:35:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add natalie whittington to your friends list Send natalie whittington a Private Message
Yea a good thing to ask when enquiring about frozen semen is about its mobility ,every dose taken is tested and it varys from 12% to 50% if a stallions is below 25% it has very little chance of getting anything in foal via this method,i learn,t this after a very costly expirience.

nwhittington
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