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shah
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England
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 Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 12:02:17 PM
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Just wondering if I'm the only one that's noticed that prices for arabs seem to be on its way up again? I've been looking now for quite a while (with the same budget, but pref loan or loan w view to buy, and they are very hard to come by) and while there was a bit more choice earlier in the year, I've now found myself outpriced for most of the horses available.
Also, good horses still sell very quickly. Went to see one this weekend, only came up for sale end of last week, and owner received her first offer yesterday! That means I was outpriced straight away as I can't afford to get into a bidding situation against someone else.
The general economic situation doesn't seem to have changed, so are the price increases due to people expecting a good summer and lots of buyers - or has demand increased and prices with it? Or does this happen every year, prices go up early in the summer when more buyers are on the market and then down come autumn when less people want to buy (bit like motorbikes)?
BTW, I'm hoping to go see some more potentials later this month....but I'm keeping quiet so it's not jinxed!!! 
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Joto
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 12:57:41 PM
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| No they are not. Still too many around for that, even without the current economic climate generally. In addition its harder and harder to find a bit of extra grazing from farmers now most are in agreements with DEFRA about stocking units and so forth. So no, I don't see anything improving soon, maybe, hopefully in around 20 years time when the results of the over breeding in the '80's are all dead. |
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sasha
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 2:03:56 PM
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I think that good ridden arabs are scarce on the ground, therefore will be easier to sell, but youngstock or unridden stock, unless top show quality are very cheap. |
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NatH
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England
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 2:41:17 PM
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I don't think that prices are on the up but there does seem to be a few more horses being SOLD on Arabian Lines
There are still lots of lovely horses 'for sale', come on chaps 'dig deep' |
Natalie
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Cage Alma Arabians
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England
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 2:46:31 PM
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We are very very choosy about who we sell our youngstock to. We feel we have a repsonsibility to horses we have bred and are therefore not afraid to tell people if we think it is not a suitable match. We have a superb reputation for selling horses and this also helps in current climate.
Despite everything else going on in the world, we have already sold every horse that we expected to sell this year- we had hoped to sell so many by the end of the season and they have all gone already and all to pernament, loving homes spot on for their individual needs. We didn't even get round to advertising them publically, they all sold by word of mouth and at sensible prices- we didn't drop our prices at all this year.
It means we will have two mares and two foals for sale when they are weaned and will advertise them on here, but other than that we are done. And I wish everybody else the same success whether they are selling or buying.
I think the market isn't as depressed as people are expecting. Yes things are bad, and everyone is having to tighten their belts a bit but things are still moving. I think the better weather does help and although I don't think we'll see sold on every horse for a while yet there is still hope for us all!! People need an escape from the everyday traumas of life and a horse is a great way to find that relaxation and I think people will cling to that for as long as is humanly possible.
We are currently looking for a horsebox, on a budget and are also finding the prices are not as low as we expected. Think people are deep down inside determined that their love of horses will survive! |
     
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NatH
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England
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 4:32:09 PM
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Cage Alma, I love your little grey mare, she looks very sweet.
You also have a lovely MHS mare, who is half-sister to my Toffee |
Natalie
Chapel Lane Arabians
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Gerri
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England
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 4:41:56 PM
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MMmmmm, for fear of saying the wrong thing............ I thought the same as Shah as have been looking for a long time too and have a limited budget to buy although can offer a really fab home with lots of love but again the horses I like are always way out of budget and I am not looking for a show animal just one thats conformationally correct and lovely temperament, even an older one thats healthy. I am not showing anymore so even one that has got blemishes due to old injury, but there just does not seem to be anything out there and anything I do see is a lot of money and then we have the transporting to France on top so works out even more!!! so I also thought that the Arabs were priced as before the credit crunch and the collapse of the economy |
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Cage Alma Arabians
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England
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 5:42:59 PM
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Natalie
The little gry mare is a fabulous mother. She gives her foals everything- and her foals are always huge despite her petite frame! Her colt this year is eating her alive so she looks a bit poor at the moment, so we intend to wean him off a bit earlier to help her recover. Sadly she will then be for sale because we want to concentrate on the polish/russian lines, and she is Egyptian, but we will only part with her to the right home.
Our MHS mare, Athira is lovely. She gave us a colt last year who just excelled all expectations. I like your girl too- I love Alarabi's stock.
You also have two on your site that are related to my gelding I lost last year. I had him all his 18yrs without a day sick and then he suddenly got colic. He was Sulan African Wizard, (the chestnut in my sig pics) and African Queen was his grandma. I miss him terribly, so it was a shock to click on your site and see the African prefix! I had to look. Gorgeous horses!! |
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s.jade
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 6:09:37 PM
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Noticed the same thing, we debated advertising my yearling colts, but have now decided to home via word of mouth as future ridden horses, so spread the word via Riding Club etc, hopefully have interest in one already...
Maryse I'd have your hand off for your MHS girl!! Having had the privelidge of owning her beautiful mother until April when she also sadly passed due to colic, also 18  |
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Cage Alma Arabians
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England
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 6:31:01 PM
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It hurts so much when we lose those we are so close to doesn't it!
Sam, I know!! I understand completely. At least you have your "little" girl there with you.
Your mare foaled yet???? 
Maryse
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s.jade
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 8:32:10 PM
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"Little" Aanyah aint so little now - she's going to be a tall mare 
Yes we had a fantastic little bay filly!! |
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sazzlepants71
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 09:36:39 AM
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hi shah, dont give up you will find 'the one'
I assume you have advertised on AL for what you are looking for?
where any of the ones I 'found' a few weeks ago any good?
I think you have to be blunt with your requirements in the sense of here is my budget @ £xxx age no older than xxx no younger than xx well handled , good temp , backed ( at least) and ready to go on???doesnt have to be 'top show quality' but wouldnt look out of place in the ring.....
surely there must be something wanting a wonderful home out there? |
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Songbird
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England
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 10:10:51 AM
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I have to say I find myself confused by the whole issue of price and what people want . I have just advertised my precious home bred five year old on the lines this week and have not had a sniff of interest. This horse is the easiest sweetest ridden horse I've ever started and she is so beautiful but no body seems to be interested . Am I asking too much money ? I certainly arn't asking what it's cost me to produce her and am only selling as I need a new lorry .
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Gerri
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England
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 10:24:11 AM
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| I think what has happened due to the economy, that years ago, people would use all their resources to buy what they want but now they maybe put half away for eventualities, vet bills, car bill house bills etc, and the other half to buy so that if they buy they have not cleaned themselves out and then something happens and really short of cash to sort it out, I know thats how I am at the moment, but to be fair having moved into a new house, well new to us, its actually a very old farmhouse and we are having to spend a lot of money doing things that are needed, not even cosmetic, leaving little spare to spend out on luxury. and I know that when I buy a horse I want to get rugs and grooming stuff and a wardrobe for that horse so it has all its own equipment, plus buy spray at 45 euros per horse for the flies and ticks as they are deadly here and will not take the risk, so its not just the purchase price its everything on top that eats into finances. and I also believe that if something terrible happens you should always ask if the person you bought the horse from can take it back, even without payment so their future is always safegaurded and the money not come into question, I would rather lose the money I had bought my horse for and know that its future was safe than try to sell it on, not knowing where it will end up, but thats me and I am rather odd anyway so its not that your horses are not worth the money you ask for them at all, its just that people are alot more careful with the money they spend, so don't get disheartened its not that your horse is not worth the money you ask, I am sure it is, its just that people are running scared and alot of people won't ask for you to drop your price for fear of upsetting the seller. |
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marionpack
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England
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 12:28:19 PM
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| I don't think the pricing has changed that much, there are beautiful horses for sale at the moment, but most of them are either young or unbacked, if you know what you are looking for (gelding, ridden, basic schooling, good in traffic, no nasty habits) then it is very, very hard, as the good ones always go to the first person who sees them which is understandable, I have now been looking for about 10 months and have found two that where exactly what I wanted, unfortunately the first the person couldn't go through with the sale as she loved him so much (and I can understand that she had owned him for 8 years and only selling because of children) the second failed the vetting, I even started looking at other breeds but they just don't have the present/looks of the arab, so I will wait as I am sure that I will find what I want eventually |
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