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Joto
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 Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 3:26:05 PM
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goodness this is all very depressing. The bottom line is there are just TOO MANY HORSES AND PONIES. I'm sick of saying it, but its true.
Now, I'm logging off and going to give my mob a cuddle. |
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 3:27:59 PM
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Agree.........not all well planned matings result in a super foal. in 1982, we sent two Anglo Mares to a well known Arab Stallion by Manto...and eagerly awaited the arrival of foals.
...disappointment to say the least. Both were fillies, one grey, one chestnut and were duly pet named as Rosie Reject and Suzie Reject. Did we decide to "eliminate" them just because they did not meet our expected standard???
No way, how could any Breeder play God and destroy perfectly healthy foals of their own making  Rosie and Suzie (Sunray Schantilly and Sunray Sonata) 1983, grew up into the most delightful young ladies, before we started them under saddle as four year olds and sold them on to nice local homes.
Rosie is now 26years young, still going strong (despite Cushions)and is now teaching her Owners Children to ride and enjoy an Anglo Arab 
Suzie was also sold to a vetted home and she proved to be an excellent Show Jumper. still in the same home as a fourteen year old, when they moved away and we lost contact with them but hopefully Suzie too, is still alive and well??
 
Suzie Reject as foal 1983 and Rosie Reject 17 yrs. winning Veteran
Like VJC, we are responsible, caring Breeders and act with consideration towards any foals we breed, they deserve a life!!!
SHAME on the Breeders, (and you know who you are) who send their unsold Foals to slaughter at the end of the year, simply to "make room" for the next Season`s crop of unfortunates STOP BREEDING, then healthy foals will not be sent off to the abattoirs.
Babs
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misterei
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 4:02:55 PM
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Some of this I knew and was disappointed by, but I understand that different cultures have different values, but I still find it a little hard to reconcile. Some of the larger studs get to the point where for commercial reasons they need to shift some of their older mares. The old method of culling was based on the principle of four attempts to improve the stock or you go to slaughter. This may still apply to some stock, which is sad.
The more modern approach for disposing of good brood mares is to raise money by putting them in foal with a great stallion and selling them in foal once they reach a certain age. The new owner then gets a foal from a great stallion and a proven mare, and maybe three or four more breedings before they retire the horse from breeding and then keep it at their own expense.
We have a fine mare who was the result of one of these breedings and her dam is still alive and well. I would like to see this practice used more widely, but I hope to be able to keep my mares until they or I die (which ever happens first), and to ensure that if it is me, there is somebody who will continue to pour money into their lovely, gentle mouths
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Here they are
Emira......Mazie...Fharida.....Shahi......Mazie.....Saffee..Malika...Emira
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mogwai
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 7:12:23 PM
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babs, your example is perfect. A "less than perfect" specimen by the breeders standard, turns out to live a superb, fulfilled, loved and long life.
To me both Rosie and Susie were more successful examples of the Arabian (or aa/partbred) than many, but not all, of the modern Arabians we see on the show circuit. Yet if they'd been at a stud with less "sentimental" ideas about their stock, they would have been eliminated.
No horse is perfect, no matter what anyone says. What suits one person, or feels is correct for them, is not right for another. But what gives anyone the right to waste (that's what it is, these foals have no use) a life for the purposes of breeding a "perfect" model?
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