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SallyEllis
Bronze Member
England
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 3:00:01 PM
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As per title really I have a 2 year old gelding and he is going to his first show tomorrow, never been anywhere before he was delivered to me so to start we are doing a local show with a pure/part/anglo class so do I need to take his whiskers off, he lives out so I prefer not to but will if it is the correct turnout.
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Vera
Membership Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 3:03:30 PM
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Its against the rules to take a purebreds whiskers off. |
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SallyEllis
Bronze Member
England
95 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 3:04:54 PM
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Yay thanks I didnt want to but wasnt sure of the etiquette. |
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Miska
Gold Member
United Kingdom
627 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 3:18:43 PM
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Oooo i'm glad someone asked this. Now can I ask the same question but in reference to a part-bred? (do you leave them, cut them off or just trim?) |
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navaho621
Gold Member
Wales
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 3:24:35 PM
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May seem like a dim question, but why on earth would you want to take there whiskers off?? Surely that would be a bit like taking a cats whiskers off?? Doesnt seem right to me? |
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Acorn Arabians
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
2052 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 4:08:55 PM
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Partbreds are allowed to be shaved off. It looks soo much neater and Ive never seen any horse have problems getting around.
You shouldnt take off the long eyelashes or whiskers on purebreds. |
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Karon
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 4:28:00 PM
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Noooo, leave whiskers on them all!! I have to admit I do hate seeing "neat" noses with no whiskers |
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barbara.gregory
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 5:00:20 PM
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They are there for a reason. The horse can't see the end of his nose and the whiskers stop him bumping his nose on things; leave them on, in my opinion it is cruel to take them off.
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Kharidian
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 6:03:14 PM
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On!!!
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Kharidian (Prince Sadik x Khiri)........ Alkara Cassino (H Tobago x Rose Aboud) aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips" The first image is from an original painting by Pat Shorto.
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MinHe
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England
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Miska
Gold Member
United Kingdom
627 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 7:09:28 PM
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Yay! I'll leave them on - was hoping it was something that wasn't expected of a pba ie. plaiting the mane and pulling the tail. Thanks |
RIP Ettie 2003 - 2010 |
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Mrs Vlacq
Platinum Member
Wales
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 7:39:51 PM
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ON!!!!
And on partbreds too please - don't like the neat look and HAVE seen a very calm mare almost lose an eye through having her tactile hair removed and not being able to sense what was going on in strange surroundings |
- V Khazad - V Calacirya & V Sulime - Quarida(L) - V Boogie Knights - V Hamra Tofiq |
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lisa rachel
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Wales
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 7:58:40 PM
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Agree ( as usual ) with Barbara and Mrs Vlacq... ON ! They are there for a reason Lisa |
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gossy
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 8:59:45 PM
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yes agree leave whiskers on them all, au naturel looks much better and is kinder to the horse. |
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Annette
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 10:47:30 PM
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ON ON ON!
You wouldn't ever shave your cat or dog, why do people think it is acceptable for ANY horse? Should be banned in all showing classes IMO |
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SueN
Bronze Member
England
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 10:21:04 AM
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Sorry to disagree with the above, but in Anglo and Part bred classes the whiskers are removed from the muzzle. This subject came up a few years ago when WAHO brought in the ruling. It was decided, that along with the rest of the showing world, the Anglo and Part breds were not under the juristiction of the WAHO ruling, and exhibitors could make their own decision.
In thirty years of showing we never ever had a youngster walk into a wall, or knock himself.
As for dogs, when we were showing boxers, their whiskers were also removed. What they do now, I'm not sure.
My advise would be, if you are unsure, go to a county show and see how the other exhibitors turn their horses out. Traditionally, all Anglo and Parts should be plaited, including yearling's tails. At two and over tails should be pulled or trimmed. |
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Goldenmane
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 10:50:37 AM
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I would rather lose a class than take whiskers off. |
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BeckyBoodle
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Australia
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 11:02:20 AM
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I would say on.
I was shocked the other day when I was at a yard where people where doing their stable management exams - not sure which ones - and part of the requirement apprently was to turn out a horse including take off the whiskers. Didn't seem right really. I asked a couple of gently leading questions, but that is how it is I was told. B
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margo
Bronze Member
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 11:23:57 AM
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i know palominos are slightly different but i never trimmed mine even going in pba classes. if they didnt need them they wouldnt have them imo |
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Zan
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Scotland
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garnet
Platinum Member
2382 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 12:11:03 PM
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During the last 20 years I have shown three PBAs, Garnet, April and Red in the following categories:- Ridden and in hand Anglo and Part-bred, Part-bred Welsh, Hunter pony breeding, Riding horse, Hack, Sport Horse, BDS Driving. Between them they have racked up many wins and championships, qualifying for Cherif, Anglo & PBA Champs, RIHS, Show Hack, Cob & Riding Horse Champs, NPS Champs, NCPA Pony of the Year etc etc. They have done all this WITH THEIR WHISKERS ON because I absolutely deplore the removal of whiskers and would not value the opinion of any judge unable to see past them. LEAVE THEM ON! |
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Mrs Vlacq
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Wales
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 2:32:52 PM
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Yup - there is NO rule about Anglo and Partbreds.... Which is why I stated them separately It's entirely personal choice on that front and the horrible injury I saw validated my liing for leaving them on
At county shows you will see pony producers with totally clipped out ears - I'd never do that either - anyone who's ever had to cope with a horse totally terifeid by a fly in its ear would think twice too!!
Stubbly muzzles - yuk! |
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MinHe
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England
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Annette
Platinum Member
England
1551 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 9:27:55 PM
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Sally, my advice would be to have the courage to do what you KNOW is right, and s-d what every other exhibitor does. Most people are like sheep anyway and just follow what others do, never worrying about the rights or wrongs
As for cutting off dogs whiskers for showing OMG!!!!!!!!!! But then they would still be tail docking as well if they were allowed. Why does showing of horses or dogs mean we feel the need to deprive them of what God saw fit to give them??? |
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