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SallyEllis
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  3:00:01 PM  Show Profile  Click to see SallyEllis's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this topic Add SallyEllis to your friends list Send SallyEllis a Private Message
As per title really I have a 2 year old gelding and he is going to his first show tomorrow, never been anywhere before he was delivered to me so to start we are doing a local show with a pure/part/anglo class so do I need to take his whiskers off, he lives out so I prefer not to but will if it is the correct turnout.
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Vera
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  3:03:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message
Its against the rules to take a purebreds whiskers off.


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SallyEllis
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  3:04:54 PM  Show Profile  Click to see SallyEllis's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add SallyEllis to your friends list Send SallyEllis a Private Message
Yay thanks I didnt want to but wasnt sure of the etiquette.
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Miska
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  3:18:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Miska's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Miska to your friends list Send Miska a Private Message
Oooo i'm glad someone asked this. Now can I ask the same question but in reference to a part-bred? (do you leave them, cut them off or just trim?)


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navaho621
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  3:24:35 PM  Show Profile  Click to see navaho621's MSN Messenger address  Send navaho621 a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add navaho621 to your friends list Send navaho621 a Private Message
May seem like a dim question, but why on earth would you want to take there whiskers off?? Surely that would be a bit like taking a cats whiskers off?? Doesnt seem right to me?
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Acorn Arabians
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  4:08:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Acorn Arabians to your friends list Send Acorn Arabians a Private Message

Partbreds are allowed to be shaved off. It looks soo much neater and Ive never seen any horse have problems getting around.

You shouldnt take off the long eyelashes or whiskers on purebreds.
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Karon
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  4:28:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Karon to your friends list Send Karon a Private Message
Noooo, leave whiskers on them all!! I have to admit I do hate seeing "neat" noses with no whiskers
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  5:00:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message
They are there for a reason. The horse can't see the end of his nose and the whiskers stop him bumping his nose on things; leave them on, in my opinion it is cruel to take them off.

Barbara

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Kharidian
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  6:03:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message
On!!!

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MinHe
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  6:37:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Originally posted by Kharidian

On!!!

Caryn


Yes, definitely on - they are there because a horse cannot see the end of its nose. All equine behaviorologists are in agreement that they are an essential part of a horse's sensory equipment. Shaving them off is just a fashion, and like most fashions, has nothing to do with whether it is sensible or not!

Keren
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Miska
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  7:09:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Miska's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Miska to your friends list Send Miska a Private Message
Yay! I'll leave them on - was hoping it was something that wasn't expected of a pba ie. plaiting the mane and pulling the tail. Thanks


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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  7:39:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message
ON!!!!

And on partbreds too please - don't like the neat look and HAVE seen a very calm mare almost lose an eye through having her tactile hair removed and not being able to sense what was going on in strange surroundings


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lisa rachel
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  7:58:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lisa rachel to your friends list Send lisa rachel a Private Message
Agree ( as usual ) with Barbara and Mrs Vlacq... ON !
They are there for a reason
Lisa

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gossy
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  8:59:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gossy to your friends list Send gossy a Private Message
yes agree leave whiskers on them all, au naturel looks much better and is kinder to the horse.

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Annette
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 :  10:47:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Annette to your friends list Send Annette a Private Message
ON ON ON!

You wouldn't ever shave your cat or dog, why do people think it is acceptable for ANY horse? Should be banned in all showing classes IMO
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SueN
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  10:21:04 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SueN to your friends list Send SueN a Private Message
Sorry to disagree with the above, but in Anglo and Part bred classes the whiskers are removed from the muzzle. This subject came up a few years ago when WAHO brought in the ruling. It was decided, that along with the rest of the showing world, the Anglo and Part breds were not under the juristiction of the WAHO ruling, and exhibitors could make their own decision.

In thirty years of showing we never ever had a youngster walk into a wall, or knock himself.

As for dogs, when we were showing boxers, their whiskers were also removed. What they do now, I'm not sure.

My advise would be, if you are unsure, go to a county show and see how the other exhibitors turn their horses out. Traditionally, all Anglo and Parts should be plaited, including yearling's tails. At two and over tails should be pulled or trimmed.
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  10:50:37 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message
I would rather lose a class than take whiskers off.

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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  11:02:20 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeckyBoodle to your friends list Send BeckyBoodle a Private Message
I would say on.

I was shocked the other day when I was at a yard where people where doing their stable management exams - not sure which ones - and part of the requirement apprently was to turn out a horse including take off the whiskers. Didn't seem right really. I asked a couple of gently leading questions, but that is how it is I was told.
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margo
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  11:23:57 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add margo to your friends list Send margo a Private Message
i know palominos are slightly different but i never trimmed mine even going in pba classes. if they didnt need them they wouldnt have them imo

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Zan
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  11:47:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message
Originally posted by Goldenmane

I would rather lose a class than take whiskers off.


Well said Goldenmane---couldn't agree more. Whiskers are called "tactile" for a reason and no one should want to blunt their horse's senses for the sake of "neatness" or fashion.

Cutting boxers' whiskers off??!!!Yet another loony showing fashion, hopefully now designated to the past---after all, they used to cut their tails off as well, but are no longer allowed to.

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garnet
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  12:11:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add garnet to your friends list Send garnet a Private Message
During the last 20 years I have shown three PBAs, Garnet, April and Red in the following categories:- Ridden and in hand Anglo and Part-bred, Part-bred Welsh, Hunter pony breeding, Riding horse, Hack, Sport Horse, BDS Driving. Between them they have racked up many wins and championships, qualifying for Cherif, Anglo & PBA Champs, RIHS, Show Hack, Cob & Riding Horse Champs, NPS Champs, NCPA Pony of the Year etc etc. They have done all this WITH THEIR WHISKERS ON because I absolutely deplore the removal of whiskers and would not value the opinion of any judge unable to see past them. LEAVE THEM ON!

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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  2:32:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message
Yup - there is NO rule about Anglo and Partbreds.... Which is why I stated them separately
It's entirely personal choice on that front and the horrible injury I saw validated my liing for leaving them on

At county shows you will see pony producers with totally clipped out ears - I'd never do that either - anyone who's ever had to cope with a horse totally terifeid by a fly in its ear would think twice too!!

Stubbly muzzles - yuk!


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MinHe
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  4:48:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Originally posted by Mrs Vlacq


Stubbly muzzles - yuk!


Yep - being kissed by a stubbly horse is worse than being kissed by a stubbly man

Keren
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Annette
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  9:27:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Annette to your friends list Send Annette a Private Message
Sally, my advice would be to have the courage to do what you KNOW is right, and s-d what every other exhibitor does. Most people are like sheep anyway and just follow what others do, never worrying about the rights or wrongs

As for cutting off dogs whiskers for showing OMG!!!!!!!!!! But then they would still be tail docking as well if they were allowed. Why does showing of horses or dogs mean we feel the need to deprive them of what God saw fit to give them???
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