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Rach1
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 Posted - 13 Apr 2009 : 11:29:31 PM
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Hi, can anyone recomend a suitable wormer for laminiti sufferers please. Thanks Rach.
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Kazzy
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Posted - 14 Apr 2009 : 1:57:53 PM
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My mare was laminetic and I used Equimax. A bit more expensive than normal wormers but I dont think there was any after effects.
I also used to worm her for redworm using Panacur 5 day guard.
I for one didnt know there could be a problem worming a laminetic!!!
thats if there is.
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weirton
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Posted - 14 Apr 2009 : 2:00:26 PM
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Very interesting. I wasn't aware a different wormer should be used for laminitics, but never having had one I'd not given it a thought.
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Kazzy
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Posted - 14 Apr 2009 : 2:05:39 PM
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I was of that thinking as well Weirton.
My mare suffered laminitis for 11 years on and off and never once did the vet say she had to have an alternative, and he was very clued up about laminitis.
perhaps in the last 2 years since she died something has come up about wormers that I didnt know about.
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Pasha
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England
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Posted - 14 Apr 2009 : 2:28:26 PM
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I haven't heard of any wormers that are better for laminitics either, however, I did read on the Laminitis Trust or somewhere similar that you should avoid worming during an attack - I assume it's because it kills the bacteria in the gut and during a lami attack they need all the help they can get?
Maybe worth checking with the vet though - I am going to before Pasha is wormed - luckily they are on the 3 month cycle one so haven't had to do it yet! |
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Karon
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England
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Posted - 14 Apr 2009 : 2:47:56 PM
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I think the ingredients in Equitape, and certainly Pramox, are supposed to be potentially a problem. I do avoid Pramox at any laminitis-prone times of year and stick to an ivermectin wormer, with Equest on its own for encysted worms but use Pramox at a time when mine aren't likely to have a laminitis problem.
There has been some research on it but I can't remember where I saw the links. |
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Apr 2009 : 1:50:49 PM
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| hi have you looked at Verm x its a natural worm control. I've used it on my sheep now for a year with good results, but not tried it with the horses yet so really don't know if it will help. |
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Diane Latham
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Posted - 15 Apr 2009 : 2:23:05 PM
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The chemical ingredients in wormers alter the gut flora in any event and as a laminitic is already under stress, any wormer is probably not going to be brilliant. I have a mare who had a bad attack in 2001 and has had a few minor incidents since which have not been debilitating but the first was 10 days after worming with Ivermectin (Equvalan). On two further occasions I wormed with Eqvalan and had the same outcome. It was too much of a conincidence not to be related. I have used Pramox and Equitape and have not had a problem with either. I do now give probiotics when I worm. She has been a completely different horse though since I started to feed Total Primero and add Hilton Herbs Cush-X to her feed. I have not had any sort of laminitic event with her now for over 2 years and she lives out 24/7 and is ridden barefoot. She has cushings and I keep her clipped. I only give chemical wormers when absolutely necessary and test for tapeworm now. I do worm for encysted red worm once a year though.
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Rach1
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England
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Posted - 15 Apr 2009 : 9:17:37 PM
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Thank you for your advise, I havent done a worm count yet - and would be surprized if it was actually positive, however, my pony has liver damage related laminitis and when I wormed him on 11th October last year it nearly killed him, hence my coution. I give a probiotic and milk thistle suppliment for his liver damage (caused by him eating ragwort infested hay whilst on loan about 10 years ago.) I will look into Vermex and have emailed the laminitis trust. If I come up with any usefull information I will of course let you all know.
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Karon
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England
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 2:14:34 PM
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| Don't forget a worm count doesn't show tapeworm infestations or encysted worms. I'm not a huge fan of chemical worming but do worm for those. |
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azeer
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 9:36:19 PM
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| Hi I have used Verm-x for several years with excellent results - horses eat it with ease - in fact they lick the bowls clean. Very cost effective too. Also I do worm tests and worm accordingly. I know of at least 20 horses around me that now use verm-x as a result of me introducing it to them dressage, hunters, show and "other" horses and all have great results and worm count about 2 or 3 times a year as well. |
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pat1
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 10:32:44 PM
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Hi all, Interesting thread and I would like to ask, when you use probiotic on a horse are you using live human yoghurt ? How many of the tubs like yakhult spl? would you give ?
I am about to worm with Equitape, which I have used before at this time of the year, but one of my small ponies has just had a minor lami attack, should I use it on her ? She has been sound and bute free for about 5 - 6 weeks now. |
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Zan
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