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Chris James
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Posted - 11 Apr 2009 :  8:15:49 PM  Show Profile  Send Chris James an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Chris James to your friends list Send Chris James a Private Message
I thought I read further back that Ghaleem says both his sire & dam are grey - surely that means he has to go grey eventually??

The base colour, chestnut, will grey out over time as greying is dominant anyway?

Chris James
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MinHe
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Posted - 12 Apr 2009 :  12:21:19 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message
Originally posted by Chris James

I thought I read further back that Ghaleem says both his sire & dam are grey - surely that means he has to go grey eventually??

The base colour, chestnut, will grey out over time as greying is dominant anyway?


Not necessarily. I had 4 Arabs (one a chestnut) all with grey sires, and not one of them turned grey! In fact, the only grey I ever had had a homozygous grey sire, which is the only way you will *definitiely* get a grey offspring.

Keren
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 12 Apr 2009 :  09:35:20 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message
Hi Chris

I have a bay filly and both parents, all grandparents and 7 great grandparents are grey, the great grand dam is the famous Hanan who was bay. Grey is always dominant (or should I say the greying gene) and if the horse has the greying gene it will be grey. However it can carry a non greying gene and pass that on. If both parents are grey and both have a non greying gene which they pass on then the foal will not be grey. If neither of the parents are grey then the foal won't be grey. Unless you know the colour genetics of your harse the only certainty about clour when you mate your horse is that if both parents are chestnut then the foal will be chestnut. Once a grey parent has had a non grey foal then you know that horse has one non greying gene so can pass on grey or colour. If a grey has one non grey parent then it will have a non greying gene so can have grey or coloured foals (not as in "coloured cobs, solid colour).

Hope that makes sense.

Barbara

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Chris James
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Posted - 12 Apr 2009 :  12:47:30 PM  Show Profile  Send Chris James an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Chris James to your friends list Send Chris James a Private Message
Yes, it does Barbara - how interesting, thank you.

As a lover of chestnut horses, I'd no idea greying had so many genetic variations over the base colour. A fascinating subject.

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GHALEEM
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Posted - 12 Apr 2009 :  6:34:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GHALEEM to your friends list Send GHALEEM a Private Message
Very interesting!

Mogwai and Linda, Thanks, he's a bit of a beast at the moment - need to cut down on the conditioning feed
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lulu
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Posted - 13 Apr 2009 :  11:26:55 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lulu to your friends list Send lulu a Private Message
Kate

My mare is so similar in looks to yours even down to the top of tail colouring she has it round her ears as well. Can't tell what sire was nor dam she has french, polish and a bit of Russian in her lines.
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nikki
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Posted - 14 Apr 2009 :  3:52:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
michelle wow hasn't he grownstill gorjus

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GHALEEM
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Posted - 14 Apr 2009 :  6:04:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GHALEEM to your friends list Send GHALEEM a Private Message
Hi Nikki, he still likes to cuddle but they can be a bit crushing now
Michelle
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