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GHALEEM
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 Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 6:45:29 PM
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Is it possible to get a roan arabian? I have never seen one but my rising three year old who is chestnut has loads of grey hairs through him and there is more every year.
Does anyone have a roan arabian? Any pictures of roan arabians?
Cheers,
Michelle
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Mad arab rider
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Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 6:49:24 PM
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Not sure about roans, but maybe he will in years to come end up grey. I sold a 3yr old anglo which I bred, when I sold him he was a roan colour, but when I saw him 3yrs later he was fleabitten grey, just like his mother and 2 sisters (his dad was chestnut). I wouldn't have known it was him, but for a scar on his leg. Just a thought.
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lulu
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Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 6:57:55 PM
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| My new mare is a bright chestnut but also has a large amount of grey hairs running through her coat if I didn't know better I could almost describe her as roan. |
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gossy
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Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 7:33:27 PM
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| its usual for a chestnut born foal that is then going to be grey to be a rose grey/roan colour for a while but will then turn grey. |
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MinHe
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Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 7:41:35 PM
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True, dark-headed roan does not exist in Arabs, but roaning is part of the sabino pinto gene complex, so sabino roaning of varying degrees is not at all uncommon (sabino being as common as it is).
Rabicano or 'skunk tail' roan also exists: it is most commonly expressed along the ribs, where it gives a pattern not unlike that on roan shorthorn/longhorn cattle, but it can be more extensive. Its diagnostic characteristic is a white tailhead, hence the 'skunk tail' label  . Rabicano is much more rare, and mainly occurs in New Egyptian lines, especially ones where Morafic is a significant influence.
Hope this helps!
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GHALEEM
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Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 7:42:23 PM
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Interesting thought about him turning grey, some people have suggested it but i thought it would be too late now, maybe not
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ginger horse
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GHALEEM
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Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 8:05:58 PM
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Ginger horse, thats exactly it! The majority of hairs are on his flank and croup. Wow, i would love it if he went the colour of the horse in the photo on the right!
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Pashon2001
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kate b
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Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 8:16:24 PM
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Here are a couple of pics of my Rabicano filly:
She is 3 now (2 in the photos) and she gets more and more white hairs each year! She was born chestnut and had pink eyelids, but also had a couple of white eyelashes. I dont know how 'white' she will end up!
Here is a pic of her as a yearling, as you can see, very orange! I do love her little white bits on the inside of her front legs!
Kate
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s.jade
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Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 8:44:08 PM
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My H Tobago colt is the same colour as Kate's filly - he has one grey parent but as born pink skinned, not dark, and is ost certainly staying chestnut roan-ish!!!
Michelle is your boy by Qamar? I believe his half sister Judals Layla has similar colouring, not seen her since she was baout 4 months old but at that time she had a very roan body/flank! |
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kate b
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Dawn2908
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Posted - 09 Apr 2009 : 9:04:01 PM
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I had a chestnut mare and she was described as a chestnut roan. She didn't have as much white on her as the filly above but she defintely has lots of white on her.
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Timbercroft
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Posted - 10 Apr 2009 : 06:48:11 AM
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Hi
Yes Ruwi is by Qamar and yes his half sister Layla is just the same as Ruwi but she is Bay...!
MinHe yes what you have said about the breeding would be spot on! ... "New Egyptian lines, especially ones where Morafic is a significant influence."!
Michelle, I think he may grey out in time, i have a chestnut at home doing the same too! Hopefully we can arrange a day for next week and you can come and see all my Bay/grey chestnut/grey horses!!!!
Linda x
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zelus
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Posted - 10 Apr 2009 : 10:16:07 AM
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| I have a bright bay two year old colt HS Pirendelo/Estoba, Black father bright bay mum and he is turning grey through his flank area!!!! Any ideas on this one? |
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GHALEEM
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Posted - 10 Apr 2009 : 10:28:28 AM
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MinHe, Sorry i think we posted at the same time and i missed your info, as Linda said you have it spot on!
Pashon2001, he has a grey sire and grey dam!
Kateb, Ruwi is almost the same colour as your filly, she is really lovely and so unique
Linda, sounds good, let me know as i'm flexible all week x |
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Lindsay
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Posted - 10 Apr 2009 : 11:12:09 AM
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My mare is chestnut but has a lot of white hairs through her - she has white around the base of her tail and they do appear more dominant around her back end. She also has a white star on her forehead with a balck spot in it - does anyone know if this is anything of significance or have a name for it?
Here she is but it isn't very obvious from the pic.
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Paidir dóibhsean le fiántas ina gcroíthe acu, atá coinnithe i gcaighin |
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NatH
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Posted - 10 Apr 2009 : 6:28:14 PM
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Rabicano gene, lovely |
Natalie
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MinHe
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 10 Apr 2009 : 8:28:50 PM
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2 of our colts have roan patches - the bay has a roaned fetlock, the chestnut a roaned patch down his nosebone (I rahter like both!)
Certain white blobs have cropped up through our stock, and the flecking between back legs is prevalent in certain mare's offspring.
Also - Lorindol has a dark patch on her flank (people try to brush it off) and a few of her offspring also sport a dark patch somewhere far back on their bodies - looks almost dappled too. |
    
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GHALEEM
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Posted - 10 Apr 2009 : 8:33:28 PM
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Took some photos today. Rabicano or going grey?
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Michelle
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mogwai
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Posted - 11 Apr 2009 : 08:04:07 AM
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He's looking fabulous Michelle! Ruby has this too, though not to the same degree. She has very few white hairs on her head/neck/chest other than her blaze and some white flecks under her legs. She then has lots more on her flanks etc.
He's a very pretty boy
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Timbercroft
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Posted - 11 Apr 2009 : 09:13:35 AM
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Michelle, He's looking very well! His half sister is just the same but bay ...very strog bay to her front and the lots of grey to the back end! So have a strong feeling its coming from daddy!
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MinHe
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 11 Apr 2009 : 8:01:30 PM
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that's interesting as our cheeky 2yr old was born a darkish chestnut - then maturing nicely into a deep liver (deeper than dad - Prince), and is now moulting out to a definite grey belly area thought the rest of him is dark - his coat feels like one that will go grey though (but his mum and grandmum took forever to go grey)
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