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CRserbask
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 1:30:13 PM
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Hi, I was wondering whether anyone could give me any advice on what to do with my troubled anglo?
His name is Bailey (Hazelcrift Enchanter) and he will be 4 in May, and has considerable issues with anything on his back. When I got him I couldn't get near him with a brush or rug etc but over the months these things have come on to the point where he will stand still elevitively stress free.
As I have a 2 year old daughter I decided to send him away to be broken rather than do it myself. He had been there 5 weeks when I got a ohone call saying he was on his way back and there was no charge for the past 3 weeks as they weren't getting anywhere. Thinking about it now, a high stress envionment where results were expected in a short time was probably not the best situation for him - and he was also stabled constantly for 5 weeks after 3 years of living out and 8 months of being in at night.
He now has tack on OK, will lunge fine and is great long reining. He has had a dummy on his back and was not bothered and has been lent over. he will be fine one day with something and flip-out the next over the same thing. after his tantrum has finished he works nicely like it never happened. The breakers said that he will come right but that it would take many more weeks than I can afford. I also don't have the time to do it myself with having a 2 year old daughter and another horse.
I bought him as a forever horse and would hate to have to admit defeat. Is it feasable to put him on loan, or would I be liable for any damage he does to peopel or property. is the best thing to just sell him as a project? One day he will make a stunning small hack but only in the right hands.
Any thoughts please!!
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Karon
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England
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 1:52:28 PM
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| You could advertise him for sale or loan on project horses. Or it might be worth getting someone to come out to you - that would be pretty expensive though. Also, as he's only rising 4, what about just turning him away for 6 months or so and letting him grow a bit. Not necessarily do nothing with him at all but just do in hand work, taking for walks, etc. |
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Goldenmane
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 2:02:58 PM
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| Personally, if he is used to being out I would turn him out for the summer, gently handling him all the time. Not a good time to sell or loan a difficult horse. |
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Pauline
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England
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 2:21:07 PM
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CRserbask where are you. maybe there is someone near you that could help you.
I agree that he is still very young and I would turn him out, let him chill out but still handle him, then start him again after the summer.
A busy training yard is not the right place for some horses.
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Pauline Higgs
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 2:37:29 PM
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It sounds as though he has spent most of his foal to when you bought him, living out and has probably had very minimal handling....which is better than bad handling!!
Feel he has not bonded with you or trust has not been established. To send him away to face more stress and uncertainty, has not been to his advantage. With Summer approaching, and as he is still very young
feel your best policy would be to turn him back out. Each day, bring him in feed him and groom etc etc. when he is totally at ease with that and you find him actually up at the gate waiting to be brought in you will know he is settling to your routine.
Time is on his side.........be patient, one step at a time....and above all, establish a ROUTINE. He will tell you when he is ready to move onto the next stage of his education and I am sure at the end ....even if it takes twelve months, he will accept all the strange new lessons in a happy and relaxed way
Do not rush him off to a sale, or sell to anyone who "thinks they can sort him out" He does not need sorting!!! just time, more time and a great deal of patience and kindness. Never try to move him onto the next stage until he is totally at ease and trusts you.
I know his bloodline and in the end you will reap the benefits 
The Anglo is like the Pure Arab...and will never respond to quick fix, got to do it today, impatient training. Remember he and you have time on your side 
Good luck
Babs
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FelicityR
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England
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 3:07:53 PM
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Hi CRserbask,
You sound so fed up  Don't despair,you are trying to do the right thing. I agree with others about taking the slower route, maybe you could get a natural horsemanship trainer in to help you once a fortnight or so? someone who is abit better equiped to deal with 'sensitive' horses? many will give you handy exercises to do aswell.Also maybe some well doctored help from an arab experienced person as you have a two year old,time and patience can be tight. Anglo's are just as 'sensitive' as pure breds, I have David's Anglo and he is still a jekell and hyde ride,you never know what your gonna get that day at the age of 14!! most days are good now but variety is the spice of life! :)
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CRserbask
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 4:26:54 PM
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Thanks everyone. I am in North wales. I would appreciate any free help, but haven't got any more lump sums of money to spend on him. I ahve had him since June and have done the slow but sure approach up til now.
We have established a bond, as he is a lovely friendly horse. He comes when he sees me and nickers constantly t me to hurry up with his dinner. He loves nothing more than a good stratch behind the ears and will rest his head on your should and close his eyes. he'll follow me anywhere, which i think is a good sign of trust. Its just that when he see's red, thats it, he's up in the air like a mad man and there's no reasoning with him.
When he got back this mroning I bunged him straight out. May take him for walk in a couple of days as he likes this, but not going to try saddles or anything for a while.
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Slave 2 Magic
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England
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 4:34:10 PM
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| I notice that you have him up for sale on another site? I know that time and finances are tight but it would be a shame to give up on him now. I have to agree that turning him away for the summer will give him time to chill out and mature. |
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jillandlomond
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 4:38:09 PM
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Hi CRserbask,
Is Bailey's registered name spelt Hazelcrift or Hazelcroft If the latter I'll PM you..... |
    
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 4:51:54 PM
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Hi I am sure his prefix should be Hazelcroft and he will be by Maraday Somer Morn (by Somerset Morn) As the location is North Wales
the Hazelcroft Stud is that way on I think, and they breed mainly Anglos and Part Bred Arabs
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Grey Girl
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England
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 5:41:16 PM
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| If you can, I would say turn him away for the summer, with just some nice walks and non-stressful stuff in-hand to keep his manners and interest. It seems that he's telling you he's not really ready for the whole riding thing yet. He's only a baby, after all - it won't hurt if he's just left to grow up a bit more. It won't hurt really to leave things for another year, especially now he's had a frightening experience at the backers. Better to leave it a year and have him a nice horse forever after than try and force the issue now and end up with problems. IMHO. Good luck anyway. |
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edwardst
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 6:25:00 PM
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| You have my utmost sympathy, everyone you speak to will have there own opinion on what you should and shouldnt do. I can give you a name of someone who could help, I have had problems backing my 7yr pure bred, i am sure his intention in life was to be a 'brood gelding'. Not for much longer though in February I sent him to John Leigh of Pocketnook Farm, Warrington (website available) That man is fantastic and my horse settled really well. If you want anymore information you can email at traceyjedwards@hotmail.com |
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CRserbask
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Mar 2009 : 6:30:17 PM
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Hi, yes it is Hazelcroft - was in a rush to get it posted! He is out of Maraday Somer Morn by Hazelcroft Enchanted Affair. I got him straight from his breeder Sherry at the Hazelcroft stud.
As I couldn't decide what to do with him I am ding both - I am treating him as if I am keeping him but have him advertised just in case there is someone with more time out there that can give him a better home. I have taken him for a walk today and he seemed to enjoy it. Going to take each day at a time at the moment.
The people I sent him to to be broken swear he has been tried before and said they would put money on it, but his breeder swaers he hasn't and gave me an 8 week trial when I got him, which suggests she's not trying to hide anything. |
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