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Kazzy
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 Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 1:39:54 PM
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If you had a horse that for no apparent reason stopped dead in its tracks and wouldnt move forward or backwards but just stood there shaking and sweating would you think, Oh well she always does it, or would you think, Oh dear theres something not quite right here and I am begining to get a bit worried.
The reason i am asking is the stupid people I unfortantely share a yard with dont think there is a problem with this horse.
I have just had the misfortune to be down the yard again when this has happened and they wont take no advice of anyone!! I am at my wits end with these people, I know some would say ignore them and get on with your own horse but I just can't. I think there is something wrong with this mare yet they dont think there is.
She is 19 years old, lost loads of condition (again) over winter, drinks a hell of a lot of water, she doesnt shed her winter coat until at least June!!! She has indentations above her eyes (They say its old age!!!) I am thinking along the lines of Cushings but they say I am overreacting and theres nothing wrong with this mare!!
What do ALiners think about it???
This mare has just been stuck in the woods for 1 1/2 hours rooted to the spot, shaking and sweating, the owner was to petrified to make her walk in fear of falling off, thus giving out bad vibes to the horse!!
I give up I really do.
perhaps I should keep my nose out and leave them to it!!
Just needed to rant really. And I have finally come to the conclusion that I need to find another yard.
Janet
ps. Sorry its a long one but I feel really annoyed about all this.
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loosefur
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 2:09:32 PM
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| Nightmare situation Janet. I'm with you - there is something clearly wrong with the mare, Cushings is what sprung to my mind even before I got to that part of your post. You've told them what you think, unfortunately there's little more you can do. There are far too many people who have horses but have no idea what they're doing and refuse to ask for or accept help. They're on every livery yard so I'm afraid even if you moved you'd come across someone just as bad. |
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akitamom
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 2:11:37 PM
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Something is DEFINATELY not right....is there a YO that could have a little word in her ear...poor mare sounds like she is in pain....if you move yards though who else will look out for the mare??
Could you print off some info about cushings and give them to her...not in a horrid way in a nice im concerned but im not trying to interfere way. |
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saddlebred
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 2:12:21 PM
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OMG - That sounds like that poor horse is having severe Azoturia attacks. If that is the case, thank good they didnt move her but I hope they didnt sit on her for the 1 1/2 hours you mention!!
I cannot believe the ignorance of some people. Clearly veterinary advice is needed here and you or your yard owner should intervene for the sake of the horse. |
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BabsR
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 2:19:10 PM
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Sounds to me as if the mare is `tying up` she is clearly in substantial pain.....and why don't the silly jockey get off her!!
Cannot the Yard Owner enforce them to seek veterinary attention. I do believe Livery Yard Owners, have a duty of welfare, to ensure that all horses kept on their premises, are being correctly cared for
Poor little mare.....such ignorant owners, obviously letting her suffer.
Babs
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pintoarabian
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garnet
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 4:09:20 PM
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| I agree - ILPH or RSPCA should be involved if YO cannot enforce a visit from the vet. |
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Ryans_gem
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 4:20:12 PM
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| Sounds like the poor little mare needs a blood test and soon |
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Karon
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 5:54:07 PM
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| Definitely a problem - Cushings sounds likely for the coat and drinking (19 isn't that old after all, although my 20 year old does have deep hollows over her eyes) and certainly tying up for the standing and shaking. |
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MinHe
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 7:09:08 PM
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The coat, sunken eye hollows and excessive drinking are all indicative of Sushing's (diabetes can be part of the Cushing's package, hence the excessive drinking). This horse needs to see a vet pronto.
I don't know if you have any back issues of the AHS News, but I wrote a piece on Cushing's for it a couple of years back which describes this mare's symptoms to a T. If you can lay your hands on it, I suggest you photocopy the article and leave it where the owner can't fail to find it 
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SarahA
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 8:06:07 PM
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Yep definately sounds like cushings to me, my friends horse has been diagnosed with this and he had exactly the same symptoms, along with tripping and slipping whilst out riding. Not sure about the standing still and sweating thing to be honest, it could be pain, fear, and a myriad of other things, but she definately needs checking out.
Agree to photocopy an article on cushings and give it to them, you never know they might take notice eventually.
Sarah
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vjc
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 8:14:42 PM
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poor poor horse, such a shame horses do not yelp in pain like dogs instead of suffering in silence  sounds like this poor horse is in substantial discomfort, maybe even kissing spines, but whatever, the stupid jockey should get off imediately |
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Zan
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Posted - 22 Mar 2009 : 9:14:00 PM
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| One of the symptoms of Cushings is filled hollows above the eyes, not sunken ones. Not all Cushings horses show all symptoms though, and her other symptoms do sound like Cushings---drinking a lot and holding om to winter coat. The tying up isn't normally associated with Cushings---- it is appalling that the mare appears to be tying up and they think this is unimportant. Failing to seek veterinary attention when necessary is prosecutable, so perhaps a chat with RSPCA would be in order if they won't listen to you |
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BabsR
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Posted - 23 Mar 2009 : 07:47:30 AM
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Yes.....agree, warn this ignorant neglectful owner that if she/he does not call out the vet SAP, tell her/him you will report them to the RSPCA There just is no excuse for this type of neglect when on a yard where the owner of this poor suffering animal, is being advised that the horse is unwell!!
It beggers belief that when this poor horse was stood shaking and sweating (probably in great pain) this stupid person did not get off!!!
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Kazzy
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Posted - 23 Mar 2009 : 09:58:07 AM
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Thanks for your replies, have managed to calm down a bit since yesterday!!
The problem here is that we rent this yard of a man that owns it and lets us get on with things our own way. The person who is in charge
who takes all the money and sorts things out is worse than the owner of this horse!!! Her own has COPD that has turned into empasemnia (sorry spelling) and still insists on turning it out everyday in the field with dry hay!!!!!!! Words ablsoutley bloody well fail me!!! on this issue.
I have tried and tried to go about this situation with this horse in a nice manner saying that something is not quite right with her, btw her poo is like cow pats aswell!!
I mentioned Auzatoria yesterday because I thought she was tying up aswell, but they just shrugged at me and said *No, she always does this* I said *NO, horses just dont stand rigid and not move for 1 1/2 hours shaking and sweating* I told her to get of the horse but she wouldnt, she said if she got off she would bolt of and she wouldnt be able to stop her!!! I said, *Get off her and I will hold onto her, beleive me she wont be going anywhere!!*
I said to my Hubby when I got back that it was like Dumb and dumber leading Dumb and Dumber yesterday, You had to be there to witness this episode!!
The more I think about it the more I dont want my horse there if anything, godforbid happens when I am not there and they dont do a thing to help him or phone me.
They really are a lost cause and I feel so bad about this about her horse and she just doesnt want to know. She willonly take advice of the this person who runs the place who to be quite honest you wouldnt leave in charge of a rocking horse!!
Thanks again anyway.
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Karon
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Posted - 23 Mar 2009 : 10:07:11 AM
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| I think it might be worth phoning WHW and talking to them about this - they might send someone out to talk to the owner. |
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Nicky F
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 11:28:34 AM
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| Janet, I would move yards if I were you - some people are beyond belief, and it sounds like you're in a corner here with the YO as well. I would move your boy as soon as you can, and report them to the RSPCA. |
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Kazzy
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 11:35:51 AM
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Thanks Nicky. I am actively looking for somewhere now to put him.
Cant leave him there if I go away anywhere to shows etc knowing they havent got a clue if anything godforbid happens when I am not there.
The more I think about it the more I think she had an attack of Azortoria or tyeing up and they wouldnt accept any help.
A quote I saw a while ago is oh so true.
*Never has there been so many horse owners with so little knowledge*
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