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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 :  1:03:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add BeckyBoodle to your friends list Send BeckyBoodle a Private Message
One of my shiatsu clients is a v alpha warmblood mare. She has taken to weeing and trying to do her droppings on her hay - which she then eats. Has anyone had anything similar?

My guesses were:-
- another demonstration of her exhibiting stallion like behaviour. She can't have anyone stabled next to her and I sometimes wonder if her hormones are a little messed up
- a need for tummy flora and fauna - ie like foals get from eating their mother's droppings. She hasn't been on antibiotics or anything recently to cause it though
- using the hay as an anti-slash device????

It doesn't seem to bother her, should it bother us?

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LIV
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 :  1:52:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LIV to your friends list Send LIV a Private Message
My gelding does it as his turnout area is bald so he does it to stop the splash-back! He eats round the worst of it and then I rake it up!!!


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katherineepea
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 :  3:04:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add katherineepea to your friends list Send katherineepea a Private Message
dont want to worry you but my friends dads mare started doing this and it turned out to be the 1st sign of her cushings. she wouldnt eat the hay after though-thats a bit wierd
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annas
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 :  6:07:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message
My mare does this...to stop Rupert eating the hay!
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Pashon2001
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 :  6:22:16 PM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message
I had one that ate all her hay, then all her bedding, even going so far as to push her droppings/wee out of the way to eat the straw...............arghhhh. Bonus was there was hardly anything to take out of the stable in the morning lol!


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Vera
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 :  6:32:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message
I had a Welsh Section Gelding on loan (the one that kicked Dennis) and he used to wee on his hay out in the field to stop Dennis eating it. In the end I would put 4 to 6 pile out so Dennis would get his share, Hero used to eat it the wee'd on hay.


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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 :  6:36:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message
Could be a territory thing (colt-ish) and could be a sign of hormonal issues. If other behavioural problems I'd get her scanned!

BUT - lots of young horses do this, an insecurity thing perhaps? Lots of ours wee when they know it's feed / new haynets time, even in the field!


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mogwai
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 :  7:12:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
Mine often wee when they see me! Either that, or roll!
I have just strung 6 hay-nets up in the field instead of them having it on the floor (my preferred method) because i was wasting so much due to the peeing/pooing on it, then NOT eating it!
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LIV
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 :  7:38:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LIV to your friends list Send LIV a Private Message
Arabs are the most odd 'peeing' animals. Our filly waits until she is turned out in the morning to wee in the field. She has rubber matting with a really good deep layer of shavings at the back but she saves it up for when she's turned out. Our gelding is the same.


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Helen Newton
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Posted - 06 Dec 2008 :  10:20:18 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Helen Newton to your friends list Send Helen Newton a Private Message
They are funny aren't they. The first thing Carly does in a nice clean stable is have a wee and as soon as he is loaded into the trailer he will have one too. On both occasions I will try to catch the wee in a bucket

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Montikka
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Posted - 07 Dec 2008 :  01:59:34 AM  Show Profile  Send Montikka an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Montikka to your friends list Send Montikka a Private Message
We used to have a gelding who always pee'd on his hay in the field to stop the others eating it. He was quite happy to scoff the lot though. Should mention he was gelded late so maybe your mare is a bit off balance hormonally.


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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 07 Dec 2008 :  9:03:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeckyBoodle to your friends list Send BeckyBoodle a Private Message
Thanks for all your feedback.

i am advising client to have her checked by vet again when next our re: hormone imbalance. She is v stallion-like and I think is uncomfortable at times in her lower belly????

It may just be a territory thing, but better to be safe than sorry.

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flaxen
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Posted - 14 Dec 2008 :  10:01:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add flaxen to your friends list Send flaxen a Private Message
Hi,

How long has she been showing stallion like behaviour? Does she have normal seasons? She may have ovarian cysts or a benign ovarian tumour which will change her hormones. It might be worth asking your vet to scan her as they will show up on scan. If she has there are various things that can be done that wont affect her working life.

Flaxen.
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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 15 Dec 2008 :  2:10:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeckyBoodle to your friends list Send BeckyBoodle a Private Message
I will be recommending that the owner gets her scanned by the vet next time he is out as there are a number of things that I think indicate a hormonal imbalance. In fact it seems to take a shiatsu to get her to come into season and she acts like it is a real relief once she is.

Thanks again to everyone for the feedback and thoughts.
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suzanna
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Posted - 14 Jan 2009 :  2:34:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add suzanna to your friends list Send suzanna a Private Message
I find from time to time most of my horses have pee`d on their haylage, mares and geldings. But my stallion never does.
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Rowanmore
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Posted - 01 Feb 2009 :  12:42:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rowanmore to your friends list Send Rowanmore a Private Message
Any further news of this mare's condition re hormone imbalance ? I used to own a mare that displayed stallion like behaviour. The vet scanned and found an ovarian tumour. The tumour was removed via an operation and following recovery the mare changed back to the gentle animal she had been before. Just a thought, don't want to alarm you but is relly worth checking out as the cause and remedy are easily sorted. Best wishes to you and the owner.
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