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TC
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  8:42:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TC to your friends list Send TC a Private Message
Thank goodness shes got you....keep chin up and you will battle through it all and it will be worth it all.Best of luck..xxxxxx
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Gerri
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  10:15:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message
Thinking of you both and will say a prayer for her, thank God shes got someone who obviously loves her soo much and she will know that
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Fee
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Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  10:20:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Fee to your friends list Send Fee a Private Message
Oh Ros I do hope your beloved girl gets better soon...


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Gerri
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England
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  09:00:01 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message
Hi just checking in to see how she is this morning and how are you
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Pop
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England
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  12:24:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message
Hi, I'm new, so a bit nervous of joining in but when the words Liver and unwell come up, I just have to, and I aplogise in advance if I'm saying what you already know. I notice that you are giving Milk Thistle for the Liver. I went thru 3 months of living hell with a Liver problem (different and allot more serious cause than worms); it was very bad, and caused lots of other problems. My vet practice at the time were sending out different vets to look at her and they all said something different, but mostly that she would die, and they all suggested different treatment. I used Fee for my moral support during this time, I must have driven her mad. I changed vets. The new vet was brilliant. He treated the worst symptom directly (which had gone on for 3 months), it cleared up in 10 days. And he treated the Liver. I believe the most effective thing was Vit B12, he injected her, said I would see an improvement in 7 to 10 days. Told me to ride her at walk gently for 1 hour a day. On day 5, after the injection, we were at the entrance to a path accross a big field, as usual during her ill heath, I was just holding the buckle, she turned her head slightly and looked at me with a big arab eye, clamped her teeth down on the bit and took off like a missile. So feeling very much better !!! She continues to improve daily, especially with the supplement. I know your horse seems to be on just about everything, but, for the Liver, I would highly recommend the Vit B12 injection. And the supplement. It is called Equisip-I. It describes that it is for: horses following illness and worm infestation. Is seems to have allot of Vit B12. My pony has improved so much since the injection and going on the supplement that it very clearly works. Again, apologies if I'm telling you what you know, but having read every document ever written on the subject of Equine Hepatic disorders ..... :) I do so hope your mare gets better soon.

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shah
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England
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  1:25:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shah to your friends list Send shah a Private Message
Hope she's feeling better now Ros - keep us updated!

As another one with a horse with a 'mystery illness' I can fully sympathise. Is it just us coming to the forums more openly these days or are more horses ill with funny symptoms than before

West Sussex
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Gerri
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England
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  3:33:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message
Tricia, I am sure she will appreciate your posting even if she does already know, there is always a chance she doesn't, Thank you so much for posting, it really doesnt matter if you are giving advice that people may know and if they don't it could make a world of difference, I know I would want to hear anything that might help and I know moqwai will appreciate it too
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mogwai
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  6:58:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
Well, she's still here. This morning she looked a little better, legs a little less swollen and a little brighter. I called the vet who gave me her mobile phone number (bloody hell, it must be serious!) and said she wasn't on call at the weekend, but to call her if she went down hill again. She'll come back tuesday to repeat the bloods and fecal sample if she's all well. I checked her again a little later and took her rug off for a few hours as it was nice and warm. Although she isn't exactly skinny, she has lost quite a bit of weight, and her coat is appalling, really scurfy and dull . Although later she ate her tea, she looked miserable again and just stood in the field with her head hanging where she'd finished her tea, whilst the baby and my other 2 year old did the wall of death round the field . The thing is, even if she is getting better, this isn't going to clear up over night. I know that, but i so want her to be ok. I feel exhausted today, and keep getting all emotional about her.
Tricia, thank you so much for your advice. I didn't know about vitamin b12, but now i think of it whenever we have animals with hepatitis or liver failure at work, we always give them b vits (i can give plenty of advice to other people about their animals, but when it comes to my own i can't think straight!). I'll get some of the suppliment. i've also ordered her some ecinacea (sp) for her immune system. Poor girl. Mind you, i always offer it to her first. I figure if she needs it, she'll eat it if it's herbal and self medicate.
Thanks again
Ros

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Gerri
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  7:09:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message
Oh Moqwai, my heart goes out to you, I know exactly what your going through went through two monthd of that with Milly everyday hoping she would be a little better and breaking my heart, we are all thinking of you and your poor mare, will continue to paray for her, just keep us updated, if you will
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Zan
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  7:11:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message
Magnetic boots on her front legs would help the circulation and maybe get her back legs down---has worked for me.

I hope she gets better soon.

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Pop
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  8:23:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message
Gerri, Ros, Thank you so much. And forgive me for sounding like a Vit B12 Injection salesman; its just that it was my miracle. (Although I wouldn't give my ill one anything, even a supplement, without first checking with my vet).

Ros, I so so so hope Ruby gets better soon.






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marg
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Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  10:14:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marg to your friends list Send marg a Private Message
so sorry to hear your girl is poorly i am saying a prayer for her and you to give you strength i have my little mare poorly at the moment after an op so i know how you feel, chin up
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saddlebred
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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  2:51:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add saddlebred to your friends list Send saddlebred a Private Message
Hi Ros
So sorry to hear about Ruby. I hope that she is better soon.
Debs

Based Bewdley Worcs
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mogwai
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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  8:14:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
Didn't eat her breakfast this morning, but seemed much better in herself. Chomped through a load of hay and walked the full length of the field this morning for the first time in about a week without stopping half way for a breather! Fine and eating all day, and ate her tea, though a little slower than usual. Called the vet who said if she doesn't pick up he'll come out and give her another steroid injection tomorrow. her legs have reduced in size considerably, and she's definatly more active. One step forward, 2 steps back
Ros
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joanna_piana
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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  8:19:14 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message
Hope she continues to improve, sounds more positive today anyway - fingers crosssed


Harthall Rashida RIP, Binley Ishara, Bouchan
Chorleywood, Hertfordshire
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NUTTER
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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 :  11:16:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NUTTER to your friends list Send NUTTER a Private Message
Thinking of you both ...

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Zoe Tyzack
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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 :  08:52:53 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zoe Tyzack to your friends list Send Zoe Tyzack a Private Message
Hi

Thinking of you both xxx


Zoe.x
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Pixie
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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 :  09:37:50 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pixie to your friends list Send Pixie a Private Message
how is she today?

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Gerri
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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 :  09:54:40 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message
Hi how is she this morning
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haggis
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Posted - 17 Nov 2008 :  9:31:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add haggis to your friends list Send haggis a Private Message
Ros how are things today? Haggis


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mogwai
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Posted - 18 Nov 2008 :  6:35:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
The vet came out again this afternoon to do more bloods. This morning she wolfed her breakfast and chomped her way through a ton of hay, then tried to steal missy's. For the first time this morning she actually looked herself again. No more mooning around looking sorrowful. Her coat looked brighter, her eyes had a shine to them and her belly looked rounded again . I couldn't believe it when i found 6 piles of cow pat again when i poo picked! The vet said that it's probably the antbiotics. If the bloods come back ok tomorrow and her white blood cells are normal, then take her off and bump up her probiotics. I have also got her on Hilton herbs immune stuff, loads of herbal goddies along with cider apple vinegar, to give her an extra boost (she loves it, licks it straight out of a bucket . I followed her around until she poo'd and it looked normal, so i'm watching her like a hawk (poor girl!).

I don't like to tempt fate, but i really think she's on the up. I'll let you know what the bloods tell us tomorrow. the vet couldn';t believe the change in her. Although, once again i was dead proud. She made a comment about the possibility of her jumping around a bit more when blood was taken now she's feeling better. My little girl stood stock still and ate her treats . Cue very impressed vet, and very proud mummy.
Once again, thank you for your support, i've been so worried about her. Now she's getting better i'm realising even more how unwell she was!
Ros
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Joto
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Posted - 18 Nov 2008 :  7:32:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joto to your friends list Send Joto a Private Message
oh Ros, thats great news. Fingers crossed for the blood test results tomorrow. Bless youfor taking such good care . Shes so lucky to have you.
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jaybird
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Posted - 18 Nov 2008 :  8:15:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaybird to your friends list Send jaybird a Private Message


Oh Ros, I've just read this I do hope your girl makes a full and speedy recovery, I know the worry these animals are so thoughts are with you both.

Beryl

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Gerri
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 :  12:37:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message
How is she today so glad to hear she been improving please post what the results of the blood test are, been thinking of you both
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mogwai
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Posted - 20 Nov 2008 :  12:38:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
Finally! Bloods show still elevated liver enzymes, but they have come right down. Her white blood cell count is now normal (thank you baytril!). She continues to improve daily, i coulodn't believe how fast she ate her feed this morning . Bless her, she's back to being a muddy, cheeky madam, and she looks so much better too. She actually is looking a bit better than before sh got ill, now she's not so fat .
Thanks everyone
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