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katherineepea
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 Posted - 03 Nov 2008 : 6:54:05 PM
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my horse has very gradually become incredibly strong on a hack . I used to love going for a mass hack with him being in front galloping away, but now i dread it
i only realised today that we dont do proper gallops like we used to anymore because it takes me about an extra mile to slow him down then stop him.
i want to take him hunting this year and everyone ive spoken to has said how strong their horses are hunting.
basically, I need brakes. he's currently in a french link loose ring. ive borrowed a polo bit from a friend to try. a pelham has been suggested. he has a lovely light soft mouth though so i dont want to spoil it
any suggestions?
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karen d
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Nov 2008 : 8:00:23 PM
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i usually ride Ffabian in a myler comfort snaffle,but for the first part of an endurance ride i find he gets rather keen
so i tried him him the myler combination bit, and he goes like a dream in it. only use if for exciting situations, rest of the time he is in his myler snaffle or a hackamore |
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Holly
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England
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Posted - 03 Nov 2008 : 8:25:35 PM
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Im a bit against strong bits but i had the same problem with my 23 yr old pb mare. she would pull, jogg snath the reins, especially on the way home. i found that i was pulling on her mouth constantly and fighting with her, i got sore arms and a stitch and didn't enjoy riding her. i asked for advice on here and got some great advice but the funny thing is that ive fixed the problem in the most unlikely way!!!!
i went out on a hack with 2 friends and as usual my mare was jogging and pulling and wanting to trot so i gave her thev rein and let her go. she trotted off for about 300meters and i just sat still and let her do what she wanted, she soon realised that the other 2 horses wernt coming and she actually turned around and walked back to join the other 2! i was amazed! i didn't pick up the reins for the rest of the ride and she walked behind one of the other mares all the way home!
it might not be safe for everyone but it works for her. im now going to try and ride her bitless as shes going so well on a long rein.
for the whole 15 years that ive had her shes jogged and pulled so this is a miracle for us.
might be worth a try? but i know that for some horses a stronger bit may be the answer.
good luck
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katherineepea
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England
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Posted - 03 Nov 2008 : 8:28:10 PM
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mylers are quite pricey arent they? is there a bit bank for them where i could try one out?
holly- he's only strong in canter or gallop and waits to be asked for the gait he doesnt tend to rush. i have tried letting the reins go completely so im not pulling at all but that got a bit silly as he was going SO fast by the time i picked up a contact again.
i really have tried all i can with this bit |
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saddlebred
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Posted - 03 Nov 2008 : 8:57:30 PM
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Hi Katherine
I am not one for strong bits but my old gelding used to be really strong when he was cantering. He would never bolt but would just get into a strong rhythm and then get faster and faster. I still had steering all the time but it did get to the stage where we would only canter uphill when I knew he would stop at the top. A kimblewick pelham worked for him but I was only 12 at the time and I would prefer to try something else if I was in a similar situation now.
If your horse is soft mouthed at all other times is it worth trying a tighter flash noseband first?
I am sure that there are loads of people on here much more experienced than me who will have a brain wave. Just wanted to say I hope you find the key to your problem soon.
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phoenixbruka
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England
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Posted - 03 Nov 2008 : 9:10:07 PM
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I used a myler combination last year when I backed my anglo filly, it wasn't used because it was strong... exactly the opposite in fact - because it works on gentle pressure on the nose FIRST before the mouth they're really quite kind 
A snaffle is worse if you have to apply lots of pressure then something like a pelham used properly |
   
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taranstorm
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Posted - 04 Nov 2008 : 09:43:58 AM
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My friend gelding is the same,get too strong when hack out in forests/open fields which any bits doesnt help at all so she ends up using monty robert dually headcollar which does work!  |
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karen d
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Nov 2008 : 1:32:38 PM
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myler combinations arent strong bits and a bit is only as strong as the hands using it
if you give patricia barnes from the bit bank she is very helpful and knows her stuff. you can also hire from her to try 01228791265 |
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 04 Nov 2008 : 7:29:46 PM
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Bitting is such a personal thing but there are lots of good sources of advice out there and plenty of Bit Banks.
Thankfully none of mine are strong but for those 'coccky' periods of training (especially the big lads - much stronger than me!) I have done a few sessions in conventional gag with 2 reins. Ride on the snaffle rein, then when he leans, pick up the running rein - horses works it himself and go back on the snaffle as a reward. You can then cure the pulling and change back to a snaffle without him noticing a swap! Gags also show up rider quirks
One thing that did work on a HOT pony (that SammyD and Adam will know ).... he knew bridleways meant cantering, and cantering meant a battle of wills with rider
So we got him on a safe bridleway (gate at end), let him naughtily take off.... then chase with reins and really kick him on...he was so confused he slowed up and began to listen again |
    
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Nov 2008 : 8:11:30 PM
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Re: Mrs Vlacq's above post
I knew someone whose daughter's pony used to take off just because it could. well that was made to keep galloping and cantering on even when it no longer wanted to. they were on safe farm land. Well as safe as it could be in the circumstances. Everytime the pony said i've had enough can i stop now...... on it was pushed. Finally brought it home. It never did it again. not even with the daughter aboard it. |
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Pauline
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katherineepea
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Posted - 06 Nov 2008 : 7:00:05 PM
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ive tried the pushing him on till he's tired thing but i always get tired first! he can go FOREVER. really ought to do some endurance with him.
i used to ride him in a dually round a little x country course we had at a yard we were on for a short while. may try that again, or the gag with 2 reins |
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