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Tab
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 Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 1:14:31 PM
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I think my 7/8th mare has a lot of crabbet in her. Is it possible to 'score' a part bred?
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Lindsay
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Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 6:21:41 PM
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| yes it is - what's her pedigree? |
   
Paidir dóibhsean le fiántas ina gcroíthe acu, atá coinnithe i gcaighin |
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Tab
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Libby Frost
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Lindsay
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Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 11:16:54 AM
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Hi I'd say she's a good 98-100% on her sire's side and Blue Sun is 100% and Salih looks to be 100% too.
A good 85 - 90% Crabbet breeding there - contact the Crabbet Organisation at www.crabbet.org.uk as I know that they are always looking for high% part bred and anglos - you should be able to show her in Crabbet classes as her % Arabian is 75%+
Hope this helps x
ps - if you knwo of any more part breds or Anglos with high% crabbet let us know x |
Paidir dóibhsean le fiántas ina gcroíthe acu, atá coinnithe i gcaighin |
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Athena
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Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 11:29:23 AM
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| Pretty close Lindsay - sire El Crysto is Crabbet/GSB but with a 100% Crabbet sire in Carrick Crystif. Blue Sun was Crabbet/Old English again by a Straight Crabbet sire, Ludo, but with a mare line that has some interesting early non-Crabbet lines to desert breds such as Manak, Zoowar, El Emir and Maidan. Salih was indeed 100% Crabbet. So the percentage of the Arabian blood present(not the whole pedigree obviously) is around 95% Crabbet - I haven't done a precise calculation here. Good performance breeding - we are featuring Blue Sun's half sister Dargemet as our mare of significance in the next Crabbet Journal actually. It is a great endurance family. |
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Athena
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emma
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Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 12:58:53 PM
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Hmm thats interesting, my anglo is out of a TB but her sire was an Anglo, Blue Madrigal.
Obviously not a high percentage as the pure bred element is watered down but id love to know some more about it.
www.allbreedpedigree.com/blue+madrigal
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Emma
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Athena
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Tab
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Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 7:16:48 PM
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Oh, thanks for that - I shall get in touch with the Crabbet Organisation.
I do have another mare whose dam was pure Arab but only registered as 50% because her dam was unregistered and no details of her breeding are known (other than she was almost certainly a pure Arab, and from the photos I’ve seen I’d say probably high % Crabbet too).
I’ve got other PBAs aswell, but none have a very high % of arab blood (max 25%). I once compared all their pedigrees and found them all to be related through Faris, but even more so through his grand sire, Rijm. I love the photo on the Allbreed database of Rijm’s dam sire, Hadban. Sometimes when Winnie (my 7/8th Arab) is tied up on the yard she does that exact pose and looks the spit of him (a bit less bone though). The others are all of a similar stamp. I didn’t know much about their blood lines when I bought them, I just liked the look of them. It does makes me wonder if it’s possible that he (Hadban), so many generations on, could have such a strong influence? Spooky :)
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emma
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Posted - 21 Oct 2008 : 11:02:17 AM
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Hi Athena
Yes i can see the practicalities of calculating half.
My mare was bred my the Angolds and is very like her sire Blue Madrigal. They also stood Kactus, a Mikeno son who successfully raced amongst other things. Their mare group were also a blend of super crabbet and Old English.
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nn
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 5:56:01 PM
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Hi
I had the anglo Fairlyn Gemini and he was 50% crabbet being by Orion.
I still use him from the freezer!
I have a young PBA stallion by him standing at stood so i suppose that makes him 25% crabbet. He is the image of Orion but 16.2hh!
Nicky
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 4:14:19 PM
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Miss Bowditch also used Blue Madrigal as well,a lovely horse, leaving a part bred Dorocinia Jenny Singsong, she's produced a couple of good endurance horses, including Margaret Clarks's Sea Shanty. I also remember Mikeno and Marina Fair.
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