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angelarab
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 :  09:36:35 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message
Baz came in with a few bot eggs on his leg, never had to deal with this before, borrowed a bot knife and scrapped of same direction as brushing, they came of very easy, sprayed legs with coat shine this morning, is this right should it be harder to get the eggs off? Thanks

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Vera
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 :  09:45:35 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message
That sounds perfectly normal to me, and now you have sprayed coat shine on the legs they should slide off even easier next time!


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Kelly
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 :  11:08:15 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kelly to your friends list Send Kelly a Private Message
Also had them for the first time ever this year, scraped the little blighters off with one of those grooming blocks that look like pumice stones.

They weren't easy though!

Kelly
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ashabarab
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 :  12:02:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashabarab to your friends list Send ashabarab a Private Message
l have long nails and find it easyier to get them off that way..so far not too many yet...now l have said that mine will probally be covered in them by tomorrow

ash

but l also find spraying the legs with some coat conditioner stops them sticking too tightly
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Vera
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 :  12:17:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message
I've found that using a silicon based coat shine makes them slide off quite easily.

Bot knife on large areas and nail on bits around the back of knees and armpits etc.

Using teh coat shine on the mane as well makes them slide off the hair as well. I tend to do the mane with my nails.

Luckily - none of the little blighters on my lot - YET!!!!!


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katherineepea
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 :  4:05:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add katherineepea to your friends list Send katherineepea a Private Message
my gelding is in the same field as my friends mare who always comes in with bot eggs but he never does. why is this?
she is all brown and he is quite orange with 3 white socks-is it to do with colouring?
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Holly
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Posted - 01 Sep 2008 :  9:09:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Holly to your friends list Send Holly a Private Message
Hello

Last year my chestnut mare was covered in bot eggs every day!! i got so fed up of picking them off everyday but my other mare never had one over the whole summer.
This year the same thing happened...my chestnut got bots but the other 2 mares havent had any...although they wernt as bad this year.

i wonder why??

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Dot
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 :  10:24:25 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dot to your friends list Send Dot a Private Message
funny I was wondering the same my grey mares and colt foal have had the odd one or two, but my bay gelding is covered and it takes about 20 minutes daily to remove them.

Dot
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mogwai
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Posted - 03 Sep 2008 :  7:59:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
Mine all come off very easily. My 3 year old daughter does them religiously, every day with a grooming stone. That's 12 legs to check, along with checking the temperature of their feet and counting how many poos they've done
Ros x
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angelarab
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Wales
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 :  2:05:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message
grooming blocks, know what they are but what else can you use them for besides getting bot eggs off?

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Veem
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Posted - 06 Sep 2008 :  5:39:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Veem to your friends list Send Veem a Private Message
Grooming blocks are brilliant for removing a moulting coat. You do have to keep the edges squared though by sharpening them on a hard surface.

In France we have a real problem with bots. In a recent Your Horse issue I saw a new spray called Stop the Bot. Unfortunately I couldn't get it sent over as it's flammable!! But I managed to get something similar (by Barrier Health) brought over by a friend. It claims to make the coat difficult for eggs to stick to (contains silicons) and to kill off the emerging beasties. So far I've used it and still find bot eggs on the horses, and can't quite trust that the larvae will be killed. Has anyone used this, as though I'm using it, I'm still picking off the eggs!!!! I agree with Ash that longish thumb nails are the best tool. Having desensitised the horses to being thwacked with a fly swat, that seems to be more successful than the spray - but I can't stand guard 24/7!! I'd never seen bot larvae in pooh till we moved here, and I don't want to see them again - not a pretty sight, never mind the damage they might do. The bot season seems to last forever too, so we can't generally worm against them till January.

I have no theory on horse coat colour. We have two chestnut geldings each with two white feet, and the bots don't seem fussy about the colour of the feet - they're just harder to see on the white hair.

Veem
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polly
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Posted - 07 Sep 2008 :  12:05:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add polly to your friends list Send polly a Private Message
years ago I bought a an Arab ( what a crackers!) and slotted him into our worming regime...then a year later, I found the HORRID pink furry giant maggots!!!!!! in his droppings...lots and lots of them. beside myself with shock I put some in a 35mm film cartridge and shot of to see my friendly neighbour Vet...he told me what they were, and explained that no ,I did not need to "worm the b'jeysus out of him " the fact that they out and dead meant that the smaller baby ones were out and dead and now...so were the older (1year lifecycle)adults ones, these are the last to come out so my worming regime had worked! I am now an avid bot egg hunter..!
do they prefer chestnuts/bays...? or can we just see them easier..?


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katherineepea
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 :  10:02:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add katherineepea to your friends list Send katherineepea a Private Message
are bot eggs something to do with worms then? i thought they were harmless so never bother taking them off my friends mare, she doesnt either
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angelarab
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 :  2:51:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message
think they are not harmful unless you don't worm ever? think that you are ment to revove so they don't injest, but looking at the type of womers i use they do kill bot worms..(yuck)can someone confirm my thoughts?

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Pixie
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 :  9:15:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pixie to your friends list Send Pixie a Private Message
Bots........ Horse lick the eggs and they injest them.

Once inside the horse's mouth the larvae burrow into the mucous linings of the mouth and tongue and remain there for 3-4 weeks. From the mouth, the larvae pass to the stomach and intestine where the 2nd and 3rd instar larvae remain attached with no change in position until the following summer.

When fully mature, the 3rd stage larvae detach from the stomach or intestine and are passed in the droppings. When they reach the soil, the larvae burrow under the surface of the soil, pupate and remain there for 1-2 months. The adult fly emerges in late summer or fall. Only one generation is completed per year.

They also sometimes make their way out through the horses mouth. vile vile vile from the land of vile. Ivermectin will do the necessary.

Remember I am not a vet so follow my instructions if you will - up to you.

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Pixie
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 :  9:17:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pixie to your friends list Send Pixie a Private Message
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/IG136

Enjoy folks

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angelarab
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Wales
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Posted - 13 Sep 2008 :  6:57:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message

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Holly
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Posted - 16 Sep 2008 :  9:22:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Holly to your friends list Send Holly a Private Message
I have a bay mare and a chestnut mare....the bay doesn't get any but the chestnut is covered in them, all down her front legs, neck, belly and her mane gets full of them too which is very hard to remove.
strange
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