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shah
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 Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 2:45:20 PM
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Just wondering - has anyone here had a homeopathic vet out to see their horse? What was the treatment/session like? Did the remedies they subscribed work? What are your experiences of homeopathy and horses? I don't mean just the usual arnica for bruising etc. but the use of various other remedies.
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arabic
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England
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Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 3:51:21 PM
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I havent had a vet out but years ago I found a guy who helped me over the phone sort out a kitten I had rescued. She had a bad case of cat flu and vets wanted her PTS. I was sent powders to give her for quite some time but eventually she got better. It wasnt until years later I realised just how famous George MacCleod was lol!
At the moment I am treating Freddie for an allergy type condition via a friend here. I swear by it and would never revert to conventional methods unless I had to. It takes time and sometimes trying different remedies but well worth it I think.
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ashabarab
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Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 5:37:39 PM
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had one mare although 'cured' by convetional means seemed to have a lingering infection...nothing you could put your finger one but she just was not right in herself and had the same problem returning
had a friend of a friend who was a reike practioner....she soon sorted her out..said she had a lot of built up 'physic poisen' in her system [l think...was a long time ago now]..... not sure if l believed that but she sure sorted this horse out...never had another recurence...so what ever she did worked
l often feed herbs for various reason..garlic.. mint..etc so l would be happy to try homeopathy.......
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NUTTER
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England
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Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 8:33:09 PM
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Yes years ago now my eldest son had a wonderfull new forest mare on loan she had been a wonderfull jumping pony but then got severe arthritus the mare bless her was in quite a bad way..
The owners had a chap come and make up a small pot like suger granulls first few weeks she had just the tip of little finger rubbed into gum x3 a day within 6 months once every other day and my son had the most amazing mare for two years until he sadly out grew her .. then the owners actually put her out on loan again to another youngster to enjoy....
Most def worked and i would if i had to most def have this chap if hes still going.
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krb
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England
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 : 10:58:33 PM
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krb
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England
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 : 11:13:12 PM
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| sorry, hit wrong button, and yes I know it's navicular, rubbish typist...as I was saying I took him to Chris Day (Stanford-in-the-Vale, nr Wantage) and he examined him and we had 3 types of tiny pill to take 3 times a day. It was years ago so the memory is a bit wobbly, after a time it was 2 types and after a longer time down to 1. Quite a lot later it was 1 type twice a week. I modified the riding, of course, but we still galloped, jumped and competed until he was 26 (not a heavy schedule) and he was sound up until his death at almost 34.IMO the homeopathy was brilliant, if a little fiddly, inexpensive (we tried conventional immediately on diagnosis but I much preferred the thought of Homeopathy)and the result speaks for itself. I wish I could have had him re-Xrayed as I'm sure the condition would be shown to have reversed, which apparently can happen, but couldn't justify the expense as he was so sound and fit. Hope this helps. |
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shah
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Posted - 30 Aug 2008 : 1:43:28 PM
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Thanks guys for your replies. Will definitely have a try but may take a while - will let you know how things goes. We have lots of little niggly things that I'd like to see if it will work with and after reading Tim Couzen's Homeopathy for horses book he's answered questions that nobody else in 5 years have been able to answer so gut feel tells me it might be the way forward for us.  |
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Veem
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France
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Posted - 06 Sep 2008 : 6:10:46 PM
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Hi Shah,
I gave my horse homeopathy for a persistent abscess on his chest, on the girthline, next to his elbow. The vets here misdiagnosed the 'lump' for weeks (from snake bite, to allergic reaction, to testing for piroplasmosis), prescribed endless inappropriate medications which may have actually induced lymphangitis in all 4 legs (including way too much antibiotic) until finally the abscess was diagnosed and lanced. Because it still hadn't healed many weeks later, I contacted a UK homeopathic vet (don't know the rules yet - am I allowed to name him?) who was totally brilliant. After a long chat on the phone he prescribed and sent 3 remedies, warning me that; 'homeopathy is not Hollywood - not dramatic - it won't work overnight - the abscess may recur several times before whatever is in there causing it comes out - what we want is oceans of pus - we may need to try other remedies - but when we've got it right it will work'. Long story, but it did work. The abscess flared up 3 times in total - each time differently, and the first two times, I just knew we hadn't seen the last of it. The third time I dosed him again and after quite a short itme it burst overnight, healed almost immediately and was gone.
The conventional advice I had from a vet here, was to try yet more antibiotics and if that failed, surgery was the only option. That scared me. An operation could have killed him, or have resulted in lengthy surgery not finding the cause. An abscess was very unlikely to kill him, even if I could never ride him again. It took a while, but my horse is now well again and I would have no hesitation about using homeopathy again. I don't understand fully how it works - I don't need to - I just need to know that it can and has.
Good luck - stay open minded and be amazed!!!
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shah
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England
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Posted - 07 Sep 2008 : 7:02:07 PM
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| Veem - that's really interesting, thanks for sharing. I'm only dabbling on my own at the moment but I want to save up for getting a 'proper' homeopathic vet out. We have a really good one local to us but a one-hour session is £90 plus £60 travel!!! |
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carrie b
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England
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Posted - 09 Sep 2008 : 10:37:20 PM
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Shah - don't want to sound like the original party-pooper, and we all have our own ideas on this but I do have some quite long-term experience here - the Chris Day mentioned above back in 1990's wrote a regular column on homeopathic treatment of farm animals in the official magazine of BOF/OGA (British Organic Farmers/Organic Farmers Association, 2 organic bodies who fell out with each other and formed the Soil Association but that's another story). Having done a college course in 1993 on organic sheep husbandry (which naturally favours non-chemical remedies and which still has my whole-hearted support) I used to read his column with deep interest. After a while I realised that many of his suggested remedies were offered alongside a range of management changes that involved a scrupulous attention to the cleanliness of the pen/box/stable of the animal, combined with very frequent attention to feed, water, foot-trimming, worming, etc., which meant frequent observation and hands-on care. As a devotee, I tried his methods on my animals (mostly sheep, then) and came to the conclusion that the close observation, feeding and cleaning management etc were usually quite sufficient to bring about a cure. The homeopathic remedy by itself had no effect on the problem. On the few occasions where I attempted treatment - notably for a mastitic ewe while leaving her in the field - I eventually had to get the vet out to deal with a very nasty infected udder.
Conclusion: the introduction of a more hands-on regime coupled with much closer observation and greater attention to hygienic conditions will in most cases do as much to effect a `cure' or amelioration of the disease as any homeopathic remedy. Conversely, the application of a homeopathic remedy without the necessary regime change as outlined above will be quite useless, and possibly harmful as it may engender a false sense of optimism in the owner, which may allow a medical condition to deteriorate to a point which may mean more urgent vet.intervention.
Fast forward to 2008. The trainer currently breaking my arab stallion to ride has been in the habit of giving him a couple of homeopathic pills apparently designed to calm him before his ridden work-session with my groom. Since he was usually pretty laid back I wasn't sure this was needed. My personal (unspoken) view was - if it made the trainer happier and more relaxed so be it, OK by me. After some weeks the trainer decided to leave off the pills. Result - absolutely no appreciable difference in the stallion.
Homeopathy may work in humans because they know what they're taking and want it to work. I have never known it to have any effect with animals. Any apparent effect can usually be found to be due to quite other external causes.
Please don't waste £150 on a quite useless visit. I don't know what the problem is with your horse but I am willing to bet homeothapy won't be the answer. If you do get the vet in, maybe you would post up here his/her recommendations and your experience of the outcome. I'm always open to be convinced!
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emma
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 10:20:18 AM
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| Yes agree £150 is a rather expensive visit. I have used homeopathy with some success, really when ive reached the end of the conventional route or it has not been possible to treat conventionally so thought ive nothing to lose but try it. I use Ainsworths pharmacy and speak to one of their animal advisors over the phone, free advice, minimal postage and tablets cheaper than those available in Boots etc, so worth a try i figure. If you google them you will find their website or PM me for phone number. |
Emma
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